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Topic: Austrian OpenPosted By: amateur
Subject: Austrian Open
Date Posted: 01/25/2013 at 2:42pm
No thread yet?
Replies: Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 01/25/2013 at 6:33pm
Lots of videos uploaded by the TTevents group at http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLroGjQOQSwDKwKeoiaNi32negKoehy7Es - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLroGjQOQSwDKwKeoiaNi32negKoehy7Es
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 8:32am
ZJK struggling vs Kenta...
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Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 9:40am
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 10:23am
wow kenta! ZJK played some bad tactics for the first few games, seems that he forgot how to play close-to-table blockers...
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 10:27am
blahness wrote:
wow kenta! ZJK played some bad tactics for the first few games, seems that he forgot how to play close-to-table blockers...
Sometimes, when you think you are just *better* than another player, you forget that you are better for a reason and just play how you want to play, not in the way that challenges his style.
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 11:07am
Is that the same contraversial umpire of Olympic women final? So the rumor of her being fired is just rumor.
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 11:39am
TurboZ wrote:
Is that the same contraversial umpire of Olympic women final? So the rumor of her being fired is just rumor.
zjk got scared: ohh its the same italian chinese hater umpire that busted ding
Posted By: TenNine
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 12:28pm
bbkon wrote:
TurboZ wrote:
Is that the same contraversial umpire of Olympic women final? So the rumor of her being fired is just rumor.
zjk got scared: ohh its the same italian chinese hater umpire that busted ding
Chinese hating?! Where did you get that from? Carrying a chip on your shoulder, are we?
If you weren't so keen on bashing her you'd might remember that the person benefiting from her calls - Li Xiaoxia - is also Chinese. You are way off target and way too angry.
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 12:51pm
TenNine wrote:
bbkon wrote:
TurboZ wrote:
Is that the same contraversial umpire of Olympic women final? So the rumor of her being fired is just rumor.
zjk got scared: ohh its the same italian chinese hater umpire that busted ding
Chinese hating?! Where did you get that from? Carrying a chip on your shoulder, are we?
If you weren't so keen on bashing her you'd might remember that the person benefiting from her calls - Li Xiaoxia - is also Chinese. You are way off target and way too angry.
angry , you dont know dude ,,,,, its known in coaches circles that she hates chinese players
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 4:55pm
fatt wrote:
ZJK out;
ZHOU Yu out
austria does not work well this year for the cnt...
the match last point between CHUANG Chih-Yuan and ZHOU Yu was AWESOME!!!
I have a lot of respect for the complete game of CHUANG Chih-Yuan; I see him as the Asian Samsonov in terms of having a game that allows him to dominate "very late" in his tt career (relatively to the average age when people's game goes down at the highest level). His game is so fluid it's a pleasure to see him play.
I like CCY as well. Before I didn't think much of him, just some other TT pro who is, however, not good enough to win anything. But lately, I have watched every game he played and I really like his technique. Only if he were a little bit "bigger" with a big more muscle to overpower his opponent. Otherwise he has everything it takes to be one of the tops.
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Posted By: danhs
Date Posted: 01/26/2013 at 10:16pm
CCY is one of my favorite players to watch, great rallies... I would hesitate to call him a complete player though, he's terrible against choppers. Against Joo, Chen, and Gionis he has a combined 2 wins and 10 losses. Both of those wins were against Joo when he was particularly sick at the beginning of last year. I saw a video of him vs Chen, it was ugly. I know this is impossible, but it almost looked as though he didn't understand how long pips work. I have no explanation but honestly i've never seen a pro player look so inept.
Edit: I have great respect for Chuang's game, he has beautiful form. I think if he was better against defenders he would be ranked noticeably higher.
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 5:49am
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsSKEmPc8pE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsSKEmPc8pE
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHPxIE1dvk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHPxIE1dvk
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 9:55am
bbkon wrote:
TenNine wrote:
bbkon wrote:
TurboZ wrote:
Is that the same contraversial umpire of Olympic women final? So the rumor of her being fired is just rumor.
zjk got scared: ohh its the same italian chinese hater umpire that busted ding
Chinese hating?! Where did you get that from? Carrying a chip on your shoulder, are we?
If you weren't so keen on bashing her you'd might remember that the person benefiting from her calls - Li Xiaoxia - is also Chinese. You are way off target and way too angry.
angry , you dont know dude ,,,,, its known in coaches circles that she hates chinese players
Lucky for Ding Ling that the Italian lady is not appointed to umpire the women final against Li Xiaoxia this time.
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 10:20am
Without Paola Bongelli to help her, Li Xiaoxia had no chance and simply had to give up
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 10:20am
LXX just forfeit the final to DL after losing 2 spectacular and close games because of injury. Bad luck this time.
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Posted By: roar
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 10:55am
The referee for the MS Final is a dick.
Tremendous pressure on Fang Bo and Hao Shuai - both trying to prove they should get a final spot on the men's team. I hope Hao Shuai wins as this is surely his last chance for that spot.
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Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 11:01am
roar wrote:
The referee for the MS Final is a dick.
what happened?
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 1:29pm
# Full Match in Short Form [better quality than ITTF/itTV]
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZV7r23g0JA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZV7r23g0JA
Zhu Yuling is usually a BEAST. Watch her beat Ishikawa and Fukuhara convincingly in some matches in the past (juniors vs. Kasumi and Japan Open 2010 vs. Fuku). But in this match, watch the third game. She's counter-hitting while down 10-9 when she usually rips BH loops. And in the 5th, she misses her trademark BH loop while being up 11-10? All credit to Kasumi for playing well and improving but I smell a dump. Injured or maybe trying to avoid an all-Chinese SF?
Anyone know why Liu Jia was DQ'd?
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 5:31pm
Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you.
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 5:42pm
great final, the machine just keeps rolling along
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/27/2013 at 8:39pm
(ms-final) HAO Shuai - FANG Bo [Full Match/Short Form (+Women/Men 1st place Awards)]
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8q5KH72_Q - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8q5KH72_Q
Yea I was quite disappointed at Zhu's performance too. But then many of the Chinese did not have a good tournament.
* Wen Jia lost to Pavlovich.
* Chen Meng almost lost to Amelie Solja. I'd love to watch how Chen escaped that one.
* Zhang JK of course.
* Li XX pulled out due to injury.
Probably a number of factors.
* The Chinese Super League might have something to do with it. Some may be tired by or injured by League play. ZJK definitely suffered from a back injury.
* In terms of motivation, this tournament probably did not rank very high in their mind. A few big events were just over. This was more like a warm up for more important events. Some of them would rather be playing in the Super League final.
* In terms of performance management, nobody can be at peak all the time. With the WTTC coming up a few months later, this is the best time to play sub-par.
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 4:57am
AJay wrote:
BeaverMD wrote:
Did you guys see the QF match between Ishikawa and Zhu Yuling?
Yea I was quite disappointed at Zhu's performance too. But then many of the Chinese did not have a good tournament.
I think ZY's performance showed weaknesses in her game that the coaches can work on. Juniors go through this all the time. For some reason, she was unable to hit the wide forehand of Ishikawa on a consistent basis so she could hardly move Ishikawa.
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Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 6:58am
I really didn't recognize Li Xiaoxia, where did that double chin come from. Maybe it's just the lighting.
Posted By: pdotec
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 10:37am
Hao Shuai made so many unforced errors in games 3-6, it almost seems like he was not really
trying to win. Was it a strategy to get Fang Bo a higher world ranking??? Right now he is wr74
and hao is wr13. check back in feb.
Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 11:18am
pdotec wrote:
Hao Shuai made so many unforced errors in games 3-6, it almost seems like he was not really
trying to win. Was it a strategy to get Fang Bo a higher world ranking??? Right now he is wr74
and hao is wr13. check back in feb.
they looked pretty forced to me. were fang's wins over chuang and ryu also dumps?
Posted By: pdotec
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 11:38am
idk wrote:
pdotec wrote:
Hao Shuai made so many unforced errors in games 3-6, it almost seems like he was not really
trying to win. Was it a strategy to get Fang Bo a higher world ranking??? Right now he is wr74
and hao is wr13. check back in feb.
they looked pretty forced to me. were fang's wins over chuang and ryu also dumps?
Of course not. I only offer this as a remote possibility and cannot prove either way. In a close game it only takes a FEW unforced errors to determine the outcome.
I was very disappointed in the way Hao played the last 4 games. I think it is known that Hao is unlikely to be chosen to play in world team events given his penchant for losing to foreigners and knocking off his own teammates.
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 11:56am
Yes, the CNT ordered Hao Shuai to miss those lobs to make himself look stupid once again, and he gladly complied
When will people finally stop with these ridiculous theories?
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 12:04pm
BeaverMD wrote:
Zhu Yuling is usually a BEAST. Watch her beat Ishikawa and Fukuhara convincingly in some matches in the past (juniors vs. Kasumi and Japan Open 2010 vs. Fuku).
But she also lost to Kasumi in the 2010 Junior Worlds (team event).
Anyone know why Liu Jia was DQ'd?
Rubber too thick (tested after the match, which she had lost).
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 12:37pm
pdotec wrote:
Of course not. I only offer this as a remote possibility and cannot prove either way. In a close game it only takes a FEW unforced errors to determine the outcome.
I was very disappointed in the way Hao played the last 4 games. I think it is known that Hao is unlikely to be chosen to play in world team events given his penchant for losing to foreigners and knocking off his own teammates.
Well he's got voted in by fans to play the final CNT qualification round. 9 play for 5 spots in WTTC singles. If he's really that good at knocking off his own teammates, he can control his fate..
Posted By: TTImpossible
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 2:19pm
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/28/2013 at 5:27pm
amateur wrote:
Yes, the CNT ordered Hao Shuai to miss those lobs to make himself look stupid once again, and he gladly complied
When will people finally stop with these ridiculous theories?
I know, right. Call me rude but some people are just plain stupid. HS was never a good smasher and probably never will be. I am sick of those "pretenders analyzers" who are so good to see through the pattern and complexity of high level TT to determine if someone was losing on purpose or not. Fang Bo gave Hao Shuai a beating, period.
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Posted By: jdzhao
Date Posted: 01/29/2013 at 6:13pm
China sent the four semi finalists of the last national championship if I am not mistaken.
Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 01/31/2013 at 4:01am
was surfing through the posts and didnt find the answer i was looking for....who beat zjk anyway???
Edit: nevermind, got my answer from another thread
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