Absolutely surprised with Clipper CR
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Topic: Absolutely surprised with Clipper CR
Posted By: jonyer1980
Subject: Absolutely surprised with Clipper CR
Date Posted: 03/19/2013 at 6:58pm
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I´ve purchased a Clipper CR because of my freaking impulse- EJ fever to buy everything it´s cheap or on sale. I´m not the typical EJ that tries blades and rubbers all day long, just only during summertime or when we quit season or stop it for some weeks, so i use to play always with my same setup.... in fact, I´ve been playing with my acoustics for years.... discarding all sort of Viscarias, Violins TBS, ALC, Maze, Darker Speed 90 and so.... So, a friend of mine got it brand new on a local retailer at 32 euro at clearance sales..... i always wanted to try Clipper since the great reviews here&there, but honesty, I´ve never expected it was going to be that good!! Compared to my light trusty Acoustic (79gr) feels bit heavier(87gr) but much better balance, legend handles feels really comfy and definetely grips better , much better that lame thin slippery ST acoustic handle. On the other hand, control on short game is just same as acoustic but way much powerful and solid on heavy tospins or driving. Blocking is also a breeze and due to its stiffness, ball throw is much lower and linear and safer than Acoustic. Shamefuly, craftmanship is not par with its unbelieable feeling so if you´re a little bit picky you´ll better sand off those sharp edges and that rough handle. For me it´s fine, but i can understand players that can sand it off at the shapr neck area. To sum up: I have wasted more that 150 euro on my premium-unique-light-as-a-feather Acoustic and always thought it was the better blade ever........ and then i bought a clearance cheap stiga blade for just 5-6 times cheaper, then realize it even fits better to my game  ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/19/2013 at 7:05pm
| I've been playing with Clipper for about 3-4 years. Every time I try another blade for a spell, and really think I like it and get used to it, I somehow always come crawling back to a Clipper. There's just something about it that's so perfect. I dunno. I've had Acoustic, various Xiom blades, Korbel, etc. etc.... but what am I back to using again? Clipper. |
Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 03/19/2013 at 10:06pm
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is it just me or does the clipper have really high throw? ------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/19/2013 at 10:14pm
After you tried Clipper CR for a while, you may upgrade to Clipper CC, it's just like a tuned Clipper CR 
------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 12:20am
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i need to get a clipper wood these days ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 12:29am
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@ Jonyer, did you buy the Clipper CR WRB or Non-WRB version?
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Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 12:31am
It's all relative. However, I am with you on this one. ------------- SPEEDY Viscaria Super ALC ST JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH) Nittaku Moristo SP (BH) |
JohnnyChop wrote:Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 2:40am
You always played a viscaria, how does clipper cc compare to it? I have one on the way from Europe. Thank you in advance. ------------- Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 2:49am
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Its the regular CR no hollow handle. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 2:49am
| Acoustic isn't that good a blade, surprised it took you so long to improve on it |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 3:25am
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I am really and pleasantly surprised to find out that the new clippers CR are so amazingly light; my last Legend was only 82 g.
BTW, there is no non-WRB Clipper CR in the Stiga catalog...
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 3:43am
The reason that I try Clipper CC: There's Singaporean member name Kai, We met and play in Jakarta last year. He represented National University of Singapore when there's table tennis competition. He is as tall as me but much more muscular. He use Clipper CC with H3 Neo provincial and Tenergy 05 on backhand, I was using Viscaria with H3 National and T64. His loop is so much power and very spiny, even though I blocked with Viscaria with very little vibration, I can feel my hand shaking when I block his loop during warm up play. At that time I also have Clipper CR, but I don't use it, Viscaria is my favorite blade. If playing with H3 boosted, then Viscaria is ok, but if only waterbased glue, it's not fast enough. Then I use Clipper CR with rubber cement on H3, it's much faster than Waterbased glue. I found more powerful dan Viscaria. Now I with 30% more power than Clipper CR, the Clipper CC is powerful enough with H3 even with rubber cement. I saw the comment in paddle palace, from pingpong god David Yu, who is also the member of mytt, he said clipper cr is the best stiga blade so far, before I try it, I found the comment is a bit over hyped, but now I may have same opinion as him. compared to Viscaria, Viscaria has higher throw, slower, creates higher arc when looping. Clipper CC produce a flatter arc with more kick. If H3 is boosted and sticked to Viscaria, then it will also has a nice kick, but the arc is not as flat as Clipper series. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 4:36am
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after reading all the rave reviews of the clipper CR non-WRB. I just ordered one myself thanks to Peter79's suggestion of the Chinese version of the Clipper CR. I can't wait till it arrives, thanks!
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 4:39am
I haven't seen or heard from David Yu in a very long time. I'm pretty sure him trying My Clipper CR with no WRB is what made him try it. That guy buys thousands of dollars worth of stuff at a time, so it was nothing to him. He pops up in the Iowa City club once in a great while. Think he's from florida? Anyone heard from him lately? (sorry to go off topic) |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 4:40am
Where did you order it from? I've been meaning to get a solid handle version for a while. My original one I traded off for the Acoustic I sold a while back lol, and now I miss it.
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 5:33am
You may visit buychina.com (taobao agent) and search for Clipper CR, find the one that has hologram sticker, the price is more expensive than tao bao, but it's impossible to buy from taobao from outside China. http://www.buychina.com/products?keyword=clipper+cr&cid= ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 5:40am
So both of you have met? Yes I'm shocked on FS section that He want to sell his butterfly 60 anniversary blades for 3000 usd all of them  ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 10:06am
| maybe not in the catalogue anymore, but my team mate has one. So they exist. |
Posted By: LoopsALot
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 10:51am
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What is the optimum weight for a Clipper CR WRB? Is under-85grams ok? ------------- 729 6030L $18 DHS TG3 NEO $17 Gambler Outlaw $14 USATT 1640 |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 2:04pm
| Mine is 84g :) |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 3:20pm
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I got it in Spain, if you´re still interested on it i can send you MP my local supplier ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 3:33pm
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Your Clipper CR non-WRB really has Legend handle? Send me PM about your supplier. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 4:21pm
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/20130307144323.jpg/">  ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/20/2013 at 10:52pm
Your's is not the current version of Clipper CR, the current Clipper CR has smaller letter near the wing. The CR coating is much thicker than your current CR. Your CR has more dwell but it's slower and softer. The current Clipper CR is harder and faster than older version. Try them both ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/21/2013 at 3:59am
| I WANT YOUR CLIPPER. |
Posted By: Thomasson
Date Posted: 03/21/2013 at 4:24am
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Nice clipper, but im more interested in the cookies.. :$
------------- Blade: TB ALC FH: Tenergy05 2.1 BH: Tenergy64 1.7 |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 03/21/2013 at 5:11am
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Hi Joyner!!!! Finally I'm here. Tonight will follow the post with more CR photos!! And Ludeack photos...
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Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 03/22/2013 at 2:50pm
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Sorry for the delay. Here are some photos of my Clipper CR Master and Ludeack. Same wood composition, few differences.   |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 03/22/2013 at 2:53pm
Ludeack vs Clipper:  |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/22/2013 at 2:58pm
| I miss my ludeack.......... |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 03/23/2013 at 4:14am
Clipper wood has really high throw. Clipper CR is harder, a bit lower. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 03/26/2013 at 3:44pm
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Finally!, I got my Adelie. I'm happy to see that wheights 85 gr. quite good for me. I love Clipper CR but I hate Stiga for their UV Varnish. It's not varnish, it's rubbish. Impossible to glue any kind of rubber before sand. Why is needed to sand a new blade? Stiga is actually making the same maistake with blades over 100$. I cannot understand it. Here are my blades:  |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 03/26/2013 at 3:45pm
And the rest:  |
Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 04/09/2013 at 6:52pm
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I tried some months ago a Chinese Clipper CR. It was very similar with the Swedish made. ------------- e-pingpongshop |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 2:43pm
Unfortunately, everything isn´t nice on clipper CR. It´s one of the most dissapointing craftmanship ever noticed in a TT blade. Mine suffers of an uneven glued. Outers plys are porly glued, specially the outer of 0.5mm, so when you try to peel it for the rubber from the blade you´ll tear off the hole layer- ply for sure.  I would like to know if it´s just a matter of a crappy typical Stiga QC´S or i got a bad batch. My friends complains just about the same thing on his C-CR .------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: khmd
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 2:55pm
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stiga's QC is not very good. using VOC free, there is no problem at all to glue. |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 3:49pm
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I absolutely agree. In my case, the problem is with the outer plies. I'm not sure if the problem is with high density glues like DHS 15 but if you take the 'original' version of Clipper CR it's nearly impossible to glue. In one day trainning the rubbers are unstucked. So, recommended to sand (recommended by the seller!!!!, incredible). In that case, the outer plies suffer a lot and when you take off the rubber it's very easy to damage the outer ply. In my case, there is a part of the ply absolutely off (there's no ply in that zone) and the second ply is nearly damaged... Stiga is one of the legendary manufacturer of table tennis blades. It's difficult to understand stuff like this. And Clipper familiy is not expansive... I don't want to think about having the same problems with over 75$ blades...  ------------- OSP Virtuoso T8O Max / Ventus Spin 1.8 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65875&title=feedback-drbacterius" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: khmd
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 3:54pm
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if you sand, i guess that you need to seal it before gluing. i used DHS 15 and have no problem to glue CR, E7 and E5. |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 4:13pm
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Hard to believe your afirmation with the combination CR/DHS 15. How do you do it? I tried it several times before sanding, with different amounts of glue and the result was always the same... rubbers unstucked! T05fx in that case. Help!. ------------- OSP Virtuoso T8O Max / Ventus Spin 1.8 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65875&title=feedback-drbacterius" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 4:58pm
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http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/835/20130503195641.jpg/ ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 5:08pm
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it depends on the glue, guys. it is difficult to glue with latex (copydex etc) on CR blades and on poly sealed blades. For that, you'll have to use some expensive glue like free chack. But then you'll never be able to detach it from the rubber. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: khmd
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 5:09pm
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one layer in blade and one layer in rubber, wait close to one hour, then use several big heavy books above for about 3 hours. |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 5:33pm
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Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/03/2013 at 5:36pm
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I´m using DIANCHI free of VOC. It´s got a strong bond effect, but its still weaker than any old VOC. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 05/04/2013 at 11:58am
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What should I put on a Clipper on BH for confident looping, if I find T64 a little too springy and uncontrollable? It`s OK if I go for a loopkill, but I need just a little more dwell for controlled looping to stay in a rally.
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Posted By: roger_rabbit
Date Posted: 05/04/2013 at 4:42pm
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Hi, I've also got the same problem with the VOC Free Glue(TM, Copydex, DianChi, etc) The solution is: 1st put 1 layer glue on the blade, wait until dry. 2nd put onother layer on the blade and 1 layer to the rubber, wait until both dry and attach. 3rd put some heavy books for at least 1 hour. Hope this help. ------------- Main: Boll ALC FL 93g, FH: H3 Prov 39d bl. BH: T80 1.9 red Spare: Boll Spirit AN black Tag 90g, FH: H3N Prov. 40d bl. BH: T80 1.9 red |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/04/2013 at 5:49pm
clipper cr or wood? clipper CR works great with bluefire m3 (max or 2.0). clipper wood works great with sigma europe (max or 2.0). (this is for backhand.) ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 05/04/2013 at 6:06pm
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Thanx... And what about smth non-Tensor? is Sriver G3 suitable as a more controlled substitute for 64? |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 05/05/2013 at 2:13am
looks like your 2nd layer of wood has some sort of separation ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: caballero
Date Posted: 05/05/2013 at 10:50pm
Unfortunately, I have to agree. That's why I sold mine. I did not even played with it because I noticed what you say. ------------- Hurray for independent blade-makers: Leidy's Rapscallion Charlie's 1Ply & 9-10-9 American Hinoki's WRC Quantum 3-ply http://bit.ly/18dm3Vk" rel="nofollow - Feedback Caballero |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/06/2013 at 12:56am
| jonyer your picture matches up exactly with what mine is doing. Maybe stiga should owe us a refund? |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:14am
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It seems that Tabletennis11.com has Clipper CR non-WRB in assortment for 50eur: http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/stiga-clipper-cr" rel="nofollow - http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/stiga-clipper-cr May TT11 representative confirm this? At the moment available handle shapes are Legend FL, ST and Conic. According the photos provided, there are small red Clipper CR letters and no Patent Pending on the head, so it has to be the new thick version of the blade. Nevertheless, if true, this will be a great news for many interested in this limitedly available non-WRB version. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: TonyL
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:26am
That is the normal CR version with euro sticker. I bought one a couple weeks back. +1 to tabletennis11 of having it in stock.
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Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:40am
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It is strangely to open updated topic from 2+ years ago and do not see any posted correct picture from the archive. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 11:39pm
CR I got from china is way better than the version sold in europe, i think its provincial since it came in a brown box with no names
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Posted By: filipo123
Date Posted: 03/30/2015 at 3:34am
| @bbkon: Where did you buy the China CR version? |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 03/30/2015 at 1:08pm
eacheng.net |