New ....Joola Maxxx Series
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Topic: New ....Joola Maxxx Series
Posted By: ghostzen
Subject: New ....Joola Maxxx Series
Date Posted: 06/10/2013 at 2:46pm
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Does anyone have any details on the new Joola Maxxx series of rubbers?. There's 3 in the range a 500, 450 and 400.
I am guessing they are 50, 45 and 40 Degree sponges.
Anyone know anything?
Cheers
GZ
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Posted By: Vardant
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 7:51am
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I'm surprised nobody tried one yet. They're already available at shops in Europe. I should probably know more about them after the weekend.
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Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 8:54am
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< id="product_addtocart_" method="post" ="http://en.shop.joola.de/checkout/cart/add/uenc/aHR0cDovL2VuLnNob3Auam9vbGEuZGUvam9vbGEtbWF4eHgtNDAwLmh0bWw_X19fU0lEPVU,/product/9796/">< name="product" value="9796" ="">< id="related-products-field" name="related_product" value="" =""> Quick Overview Expected to be available in August 2013 1.8 - 2.0 - MAX The rubber with the softest sponge of the MAXXX series (40°). http://en.shop.joola.de/catalog/product_compare/add/product/9796/uenc/aHR0cDovL2VuLnNob3Auam9vbGEuZGUvam9vbGEtbWF4eHgtNDAwLmh0bWw,/" rel="nofollow - Double click on above image to view full picture Details Early last year, JOOLA started a project together with the help of top players and outstanding design engineers in the polymer industry with the goal to develop a rubber composition that enables table tennis on a level never reached before. The expectations of players with different performance levels in a rubber were evaluated in a study - 3 features were specified as key X factors for successful, modern table tennis. These were then the target for the subsequent test series: maXXXimum power, maXXXimum spin and maXXXimum control. After long development and test phases we have reached our goal with the JOOLA MAXXX – the rubber exceeds all expectations and will definitely belong to the best in the world. Geo-Force and Geo-Sponge are the keys to success: two innovative development steps – the unique geometry of the grippy upper rubber and the new marcopore high-tech comb sponge. The JOOLA Geo-Force technology of the upper rubber, where the pimples are specially arranged and form a larger hollow space, sets complete new standards when speaking of ball control and rotation. The spin performance at the table as well as from half distance turn the JOOLA MAXXX into an efficient high-end weapon. The new macropore comb structure of the dynamic sponge (Geo-Sponge technology) gives the player an incomparable feeling, a dangerous ball-flight when playing topspin shots and unbeatable power in every playing situation. JOOLA MAXXX°, the rubber with the triple X: maXXXimum power, maXXximum spin, maXXXimum control. The rubber with the softest sponge of the MAXXX series (40°). The MaXXX 400 can be excellently controlled especially in passive play. In addition the Geo-Force technology provides the necessary aggression for offensive shots. Recommended for aggressive allrounders who emphasize control but don’t want to do without the necessary power in performance. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: decoi
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 8:55am
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IMO Joola looks like a dying company ------------- Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 9:48am
Explanation? ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
decoi wrote:Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:16am
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Hmmm...wonder what would make decoi think Joola is a dying company? They are the official sponsor of the USATT for their tables and apparel, and they make good quality products in Germany. Maybe Decoi knows something we don't. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 11:13am
a pot of good crack makes him type this kind of posts. Joola is very popular both here and in Europe. I play with Joola on both sides right now, trying to see if I can live without tenergy on my BH. Opening loop not so easy but control is so good in blocking and I can do mid distance BH loop now because the path of the ball is so easy to put on the table ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 11:17am
| To be fair to decoi, nobody actually uses Joola blades, but their rubbers are very good. |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 11:30am
Assiduous - is there any current/new video of you playing floating around anywhere? It sounds like you've made a lot of progress in the last year and I'd love to see what it looks like. — (I know this is off-topic – I apologize). |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 11:33am
I'm not too familiar with their newer blades, but their blades used to be decent and used by many (at least where I was playing). I'm talking 20-25 years ago. I guess I don't know why their current blades would have fallen off the edge in terms of quality.  |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 12:40pm
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Blocking and smashing is why I went to Rhyzm. The throw just felt more natural than Tenergy and I was not going to spend eternity fixing my smashing technique. I can block with anything and loop with anything but my hitting stroke is ingrained. Rhyzm is also the cheapest of the newer sponges, works great with rubber cement, doesn't shrink and is durable. Less than $40 per sheet from Timtts.be, who also mail to to the US quite quickly. Since I am quite happy and I think this Maxxx will have a significant premium on its price, I only hope it will make Rhyzm cheaper. Rhyzm 425 has been fantastic to me though improved technique is clearly at work as well ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Vardant
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 1:22pm
Joola has some kind of a promotion over here, two sheets for the price of one, so the 500 and 450 is on the way  Otherwise, they go for roughly $40.
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Posted By: hungfu
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 1:29pm
Wow that's an awesome deal. Is there any way to get in on that deal? I love the Rhyzm rubbers, would love to try the maxxx series. ------------- Currently using Arirang: FH: Joola Rhyzm 425 2.0 BH: Joola Maxxx 400 2.0 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 2:16pm
They will certainly not die from modesty...
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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 2:26pm
Oh my... that means this rubber will actually enable a level of table tennis beyond any level that hasn't been reached previously... wowsers!!! You had a good run, Tenergy series... may the GEO-Force be with you. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 2:37pm
G-Force for brevity. Probably they will exhibit some G-Point to be sure and everyone will buy them in frenzy.  To be honest, however, Rhyzm is a very decent rubber, so let's give this new venture the benefit of 100 days tolerance. |
Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 3:04pm
I agree. 43 euros at Schoeler & Micke is too much. For example TSP Ventus is 37 on the same site. The 35 + / - 2 EUR price range is acceptable for me but not over 40. I know they are selling it at a more reasonable price for the moment... I am 100% sure this rubber is no different from the current Japanese surface + ESN sponge combination which is remarkable by the way. Joola used to alway set their rubber prices slightly below the rest of the competition but the price range of MAXXX shows to me that they were forced to come out with a higher price than they usually did in the past. The JP01 and 03 and the Tibhar EVO serieas are already really good and so is Ventus Speed. It will be difficult for them to make a breakthrough. In addition to all that, they have not come with a competitive composite blade in years. |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 3:07pm
| Joola sell zillions of tables.. doubt they care much about selling rubbers when half the world use their tables |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 3:15pm
In defence of Joola (who seem to be becoming the forgotten man of TT brands), they do inject a good amount of cash into junior sponsorship here in the UK. I also see a lot of Joola stuff being used by the younger players in the same peer group as the sponsored players too. The main blades are Fever, the Flame series, the Wing series. Rubbers are mainly Express/Xplode and Energy Extra. So hats off to them for that. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: decoi
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 3:19pm
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for example In ireland 10 years ago there a good few people using joola, now no one. i do agree about the tables theirs seem to last for ever. i bough one from my old school, its about 20-25 years old still in good condition. as for other items they jsut dont seem to stand out no one seems to use their blades/rubbers. to me they are even overshadowed by the likes of xiom ------------- Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 3:26pm
Joola's marketing is terrible, IMO. They're stuck in the mid 90s TT bubble. Every rubber and blade carries the same waffling description, which tells you very little about the actual product. Looking at Maxxx, you could just replace the product name with "Tango" and it wouldn't look too out of place on the back of that packet. Xiom, on the other hand, has gone to great lengths to jazz up the marketing of their TT stuff. Their attempts to give more information about blade characteristics is a standout point for me, and is a step in the right direction from just ratings for speed and control. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:04pm
Xiom's branded design elements and marketing efforts are currently lengths ahead of any other TT brand – including Butterfly and Stiga. There are some strategic kinks in product development cycles they're still working out, but other than that, the Champion brand's "relaunch" as Xiom has been done about as good as we've ever seen in the world of table tennis (and thus their rapid success). |
Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:34pm
| Well I didn't think I'd buy a Joola rubber but using X three times really talked me into it. |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:40pm
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Grassroots politicians, those who go door to door giving a (short please) message are winners! I care less about those with bigger budgets playing clowns on tv networks through demagogic formulas and lying ads. I think Joola practices grassroots table tennis promotion -at least in the USA- and I salute them about it. I'll try their Maxxx rubbers just for that; right after the cheaper Rhythm as stated above. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: Vardant
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:41pm
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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:47pm
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Rhyzm may be the most natural throw rubber in the world. If you haven't tried it grab a sheet when u get a chance. You won't regret it. No training necessary. Just loop the way you think you should. The control is outstanding even at the highest speed exchange, actually it becomes obvious especially in high speed exchanges. Pondus, i will make a video just for you! ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:50pm
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...and the scouters; so post please. btw I want to try Rhythm even more after reading that! ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:54pm
Lol - I wasn't looking for you to have to go great lengths for this – I was just curious to see how your game has progressed. I remember you said you had beaten a 2000 rated player recently, so you must have taken some pretty good-sized leaps. Much appreciated regardless. |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 4:55pm
Ironically, in this "Maxxx"-thread, I've also become more curious about Rhyzm.  |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 5:58pm
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If I post a before and after video of my game before and after Rhyzm, people will buy Rhyzm, though it was more that there is a 12 month, 300 pt gap between videos... ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 6:10pm
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can we have a video of your play today? I am eager to discover you bh snap over the table when opponent is badly inspired serving light underspin or pushing too high. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 8:39pm
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never liked their blades though the new falcon fast plus seem an ebenholz copy with ebony and spruce layers. rhyzm is a very good rubber and its very durable ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 9:52pm
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Fatt Do you want to see NextLevel's backhand? Maybe NextLevel can post a match between me and him We are practice partners and are around the same level ------------- Timo Boll ZLC Xiom Vega Japan Tenergy 80 - FX Rating: 2065 |
Posted By: decoi
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:24pm
yes please ------------- Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:26pm
Nah, you're too young and you loop - I do well against the old non-loopers. So I am posting two videos of me playing old, non-loopers.  Including the legendary Mark Berg! None of the videos will be recent because my most recent videos don't show my new spin game which I only acquired in the last two weeks and my most recent videos are much older than that.------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:33pm
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Ok Nextlevel, you coming to the club tomorrow or thursday? Lets film one of our club matches! Mark Berg is not so legendary anymore btw Ill try to block more!!! Shay ------------- Timo Boll ZLC Xiom Vega Japan Tenergy 80 - FX Rating: 2065 |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:36pm
Interresting, my name is "nobody" and we are quite a bunch of "nobody" around here... ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:47pm
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:51pm
Dress up as Santa Claus - then you may have a chance. I should be in the club tomorrow. Berg is still a legend. Get old and you will understand why. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/30/2013 at 10:53pm
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The videos are on this thread. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61966&PN=1#736968" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61966&PN=1#736968 Time to get back to discussing Joola Maxxx. What is the price of this rubber? As a faithful user of Rhyzm, is anyone going to send me a sheet to review? I mean, what does loyalty get you these days? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 5:22am
haha already the 2nd page even there is not a single review  Concerning the Maxxx rubbers they seem to be followers from the Rhyzm rubbers so as I found the Rhyzm excellent rubbers I would be surprised (even if it is not impossible) if the Maxxx rubbers would not be at least as good as Rhyzm rubbers. That does not mean that they will bring some kind of revolution or whatever. Concerning marketing it was very quiet for the Rhyzm rubbers, maybe too quite compared to the quality of the product. They realized they had great success (at least in Germany, not so much in France yet) and were confident to present the next rubbers as "awesome" rubbers or whatever. Small off-topic again: In France and Germany their rubbers are quite popular and many players use them. The blades are less used but only because people don't try them. Most people who finally decide to try actually enjoy them. Rossi Emotion is extremely popular in France right now. It's an excellent blade that's definitely more than worth a shot. Fever, Wing Fast, Wing Passion Fast are also great blades. The problem in the US is that the prices for Joola Blades are extremely expensive so that's not very attractive. In Europe they are quite cheap or at least decent. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 5:30am
| And they have excellent ergonomic shoes (Rally). Sole is the same as Tibhar's but the comfort is quite different. |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 11:26am
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their blades are just as cheap as donic but have nicer finish. Certainly better than Stiga. Joola Wing is a popular blade in all of its variations. They are really competitive in the wood blades world. However when it comes to carbon blades i don't trust anyone other than Butterfly. Sadly. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 11:37am
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I agree with you on Carbon Butterfly blades which are very difficult (almost impossible?) to beat. But Joola Fever is a great blade even if it's not as good as the Maze off. Did you ever try the Rossi Emotion? Quite unique Hinoki-carbon blade, not too thick, with a very thin carbon layer that comes as the 3rd ply. I don't think that Butterfly has anything comparable to this one. Most of their hinoki-carbon blades, even though they have amazing feel, are crazy speed monsters while the Emotion is a very controlled off blade. The KLS would be the closest to the Emotion but it's stiffer, has less dwell and control without being much faster. You should try it! ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: emihet
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 12:48pm
LOL...but most european people do know about Terence Hill...and even Bud Spencer...good observation ------------- Viscaria, Ma Long 5, Old Clippers, BTY Ovtcharov and Various Custom blades |
Posted By: emihet
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 12:52pm
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Joola blades are ok...their best blades were made up until the 90s...now most of them are made in China. Rubber wise...they are aware of the issues...so they try their best from esn and japanese company that makes nittaku and stiga rubbers....rhyzm is a nice rubber, good for counter, driving, flat hitting, blocking and short game...but it is the least spinny and worst to open against heavy underspin then all the newest esn generation rubbers...all depends on the style...but i have not seen any player over 2600 be happy with Rhyzm especially on the forehand. ------------- Viscaria, Ma Long 5, Old Clippers, BTY Ovtcharov and Various Custom blades |
Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 1:03pm
| I play with the eagle carbon blade at the moment and really like it, pretty fast, good touch for a quick blade and light. Which pretty well ticks all the boxes for me. The fever is good mind and used to be one of my old blades along with the rosi force. I have a sheet of Maxxx 500 coming to me so I'll shove it on my blade and give some feed back. Hopefully it is as good as the Rhyzm which i use at the moment. |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 1:07pm
Where can you get this promotion? Thanks! ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Vardant
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 1:35pm
| Unfortunately the shop doesn't ship abroad. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/31/2013 at 1:45pm
------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 08/01/2013 at 8:03pm
Maxxx 500 sheet arrived today. The Top sheet is pretty similar to rhyzm maybe a tiny bit more grip, which hopefully means good bite and touch. The sponge is orange and very porous,. I've popped a few quick photo's below. I glued it on to my eagle carbon blade and will have a hit tomorrow.   |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 08/02/2013 at 9:00am
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anyone have an update yet on how the new MaXXX rubbers play? I hope they have a little more spin than the Rhyzm rubbers. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 08/02/2013 at 12:19pm
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more spin is easy but will mess up the nice intuitive flight path ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 08/10/2013 at 7:30am
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i tested the 500 in max and the 450 in 2.0mm yesterday on a virtuoso + and compared with quire old mx-p and blufire jp01 Te joola rubbers are very good, very good spin and control comparable with mx-p, bluefire and rasant the rubber is complete made in germany, at least written on the topsheet difficult to say for me if are better or worse than other new generation rubbers the price is cheaper , in germany 3 or 4 euro cheaper than rasantand bluefire ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 08/10/2013 at 8:55am
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Been testing 500 Max for just over a week now on an eagle carbon blade. Here are some of my findings. I normally use Rhyzm 2.0 on both sides. The good for me.... The Maxxx is really rather good in open play slightly away from the table. Spin is good, as well as control when counter looping. Found Blocking to be ok as well as driving. Smashing both backspin and topspin ball are clean and crisp. The rubber is fast but does have grip. The Bad for me I am used to more control on service and return which is where Maxxx fails for me. Touching a serve back did tend to stick up slightly also looping the first ball at the table sometimes had some unpredictable results. With the Rhyzm rubber I have touch and bite which I thought were missing a bit on the Maxxx for me. Overall. I think this rubber will suit Players playing away from the table Speed is great but there is some compromise on control in the short game and touch on block. |
Posted By: Benigma
Date Posted: 08/10/2013 at 11:47pm
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Whats the throw like, and is it any faster than Rhyzm? And is the sponge as hard as Joola claim it to be? |
Posted By: Vardant
Date Posted: 08/11/2013 at 3:47am
| I'd say the throw is medium, medium-high, the sponge on the 450 didn't seem that hard to me, but I'm used to playing with Skyline 2 Neo on the BH, so go figure. Speedwise, I'm just extrapolating from the ttDB numbers, because I haven't played with Rhyzm, but pretty similar I guess. |
Posted By: straits85
Date Posted: 08/18/2013 at 5:49pm
In Europe we know Terence Hill but also the story of Ulysse and the Cyclops. "The Illiade and the Odyssey" is more famous than "My Name is Nobody", no ? |
Posted By: straits85
Date Posted: 08/18/2013 at 5:58pm
I agree. I played with Rossi Emotion, Force, Markovic. They are all fantastic composite blades. Bomb Fast is really amazing. MC1, Kool are simply incredibly fast and... cool. And for defense, Chen Weixing is as good as BTY JSH. Regarding rubbers, Maxxx will be my next test as I found that Rhyzm was a really good surprise. |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 08/18/2013 at 6:01pm
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I tried Maxxx 400 and Maxxx 450. The feel is quite different from Rhyzm because the topsheet is way softer. Speed and spin wise is similar enough to the point where it does not matter except if you prefer softer or harder topsheet to generate spin. Except the feel the other difference is that the Maxxx rubbers felt bouncier but less consistent and less powerful than the Rhyzm rubbers. For those who prefer a softer topsheet and easy speed compared to Rhyzm? Maxxx is a good choice but for those who prefer harder topsheet, more consistency and power better to stay with Rhyzm. If you are in between both chose the sponge hardness that you feel most comfortable with. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 08/18/2013 at 6:25pm
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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 11:41am
I agree with all of the above, except the power. I played with 500 though. It is DEFINITELY more powerful than Rhyzm. More spiny as well. Very jumpy. Maxx has nothing in common with Rhyzm. Feel, spin, trajectory, everything is different. It is very close to Bluefire and Evolution. Another flavor of those fast, spiny, jumpy rubbers. Has nothing unique at all. Don't get me wrong, it is a high quality rubber, but if u never play it u never missed anything. They main shortcoming with respect to Rhyzm is the control. Rhyzm will land the ball from any point of the room. I don't understand how it works, but the ball just goes where you swing. All of those jumpy rubbers they go UP, and eventually down, but that makes for a difficult calculation when away from the table. With Rhyzm you just swing forward as hard as you can, and put just a little BEND to clear the net and you will make it. Rhyzm truly is an amazing rubber when it comes to consistency. I don't even know what to compare it with. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 12:11pm
Great movie! But everybody should watch They Call Me Trinity and its followup! ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 12:17pm
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no comparison with joola x-plode? x-plode is widely used at very high level in my country. It is a fast, medium-soft, medium-low throw, fairly spin insensitive rubber. with poor spin I'd say (easy to counterloop).. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: BMonkey
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 1:05pm
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Posted By: DHSHurricane
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 4:10pm
| Rhyzm is awesome. I play with max and 2.0. I switched from H3 on my forehand and I never played better. fair, hard sponge and a decent topsheet. not too fast as the Stiga rubbers, and very much control. not too expensive. I get a sheet for €32, seeing tenergy is an outdated rubber and costs €57 here |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 4:16pm
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x-plode was popular in my club as well before Rhyzm came up. The club owner (currently 2300) used x-plode and switched to Rhyzm and every single Joola user followed him to the extent that he doesn't even carry xplode any more (hes a joola dealer too). X-plode is between Maxx and Rhyzm on the scale where Maxx has superior speed and spin but Rhyzm has superior control. However I still think that Maxx is closer to Evolution and Bluefire in feel and behavior, and X-plode is closer to Rhyzm. Maxx is rubber where you want to win the point with a crushing blow, where the speed and spin are overwhelming. Rhyzm is a rubber that is best used for winning points with consistence. Actually one of the shortages of the natural predictable path of Rhyzm is that my opponents come up with phenomenal blocks too often. It is intuitive for them as well. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 5:10pm
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No way xplode is a medium-soft rubber, rather medium- hard, the sensitive version is rather soft, I didn't like it. ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 5:41pm
The older joola rubbers (express, xplode) all have lower-grip topsheets IMO (when compared to the lastest ESN generation). The spin was there if you had a nice, clean technique to use the sponge mechanically. I lack that - sounds like a lot of effort - and I prefer the new gen for ease of use in a spin-type game.
You make Maxx sound like last year's overly boosted (smelly) ESN stuff (Bluefire M, Evolution), and Rhyzm sound like this year's (Bluefire JP, Tenzone Ultra). Is there a booster smell on Rhyzm or Maxx? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 5:57pm
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I don't know what people mean by that. All decent rubbers smell the same to me. I think in my first year when I spent 1000 on chinese rubbers I noticed some of those had a strong smell on something, but nothing that costs more than $40 smells weird to me. I think soft topsheet is a recipe for poor control. I don't even want to try rubbers from now on that have soft topsheet. It will be spinny as hell but for me its more important to put it on the table every time. Of the rubbers with crazy spin and high throw Tenergy and Tenzone have the best control. Bluefire, Evolution and now Maxx are definitely with inferior control, although if you tell me one is spinier than the other i wont argue with you. Rhyzm should not be compared to any of the above. I can recommend Rhyzm to every Sriver Die-Hard out there. THOU SHALL NOT LOSE CONTROL! You will gain on every measurable metric if you switch from Sriver to Rhyzm. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 6:19pm
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yep Rhyzm is an outstanding rubber while Maxxx is a good rubber but nothing amazing. But it definitely has the specificity of a very soft topsheet, softer than Bluefire, Rasant or Evolution. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/24/2013 at 12:42am
You lose on one metric - weight. That is the main reason I do not use Rhyzm today. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: DHSHurricane
Date Posted: 09/24/2013 at 1:43am
| Rhyzm wins for me on weight. Heavy shouldn't always be considered negative. just personal preference. |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 09/24/2013 at 10:12am
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i don't remember the weight of the old rubbers but Rhyzm is lighter than tenergy and tenzone for sure. Hey, DHS, the best player in out club has identical setup as yours, but his Mazunov is a very old anatomic handle one, and the entire periphery of the blade is chipped from hitting the table. Ugly as hell but doesn't seem to affect his game much. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 09/26/2013 at 10:34am
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last night I played two matches with Maxx on my FH instead of Rhyzm and the reliability of my FH went down the toilet. Occasional spectacular drives were drowned in misses by an inch or catching the net. The topsheet creates a completely different feel than Rhyzm and I got to hate it. After my last match with a high 1900 where i lost 12-10 in game 5 and all 12 lost points were on FH I just ripped the rubber off the blade and swore never to use it again. Hit me up if u want a great deal on virtually new black Maxx 500 Max ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: DHSHurricane
Date Posted: 09/26/2013 at 11:27am
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@assi he is a Lucky man! Mine is fresh I am still looking for an old One. Mine is Just 102 grams. In soms way I dont deel the difference with 85 blade, It has a good balance. Does he boost his rhyzms? I die and It added an extra feel (feedback, vibration) and a deeper corking click  I am thinking about setting up a rhyzm fan club;) good luck to anybody who is going to play tonight! |
Posted By: kits11326
Date Posted: 10/03/2013 at 9:19pm
i guess it's a different story in my place, in our club almost every player use Joola Rubbers, and maybe 50% butterfly blade users. and during tournaments, with at least a thousand participants, 70% of the players use Joola rubber.. Maybe in your place, joola products may not be readily available? ------------- Blade: Butterfly Timo Boll T5000 FH: Red 2.0mm Joola Energy Xtra BH: Black 1.8mm Donic Baxter F1A buy at: http://www.iruiru.com/e/ you will never go wrong with their equip |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 8:10am
| is anybody tried Maxxx - P? What it's looks like? |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/11/2014 at 9:12am
I haven't seen it in the flesh, but I am surprised that MAXX-P has a 42.5deg sponge. I thought it would be harder. I'll ask our Joola-sponsored club members about it when I see them next. Rhyzm-P is 45deg. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 08/11/2014 at 8:51pm
Interesting. Maybe they developed one new sponge and a new topsheet for each series? ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/20/2014 at 3:15pm
OK, finally returning to this issue after many months. I know sid, myself, and most of the TT world have been suffering from sleepless nights and extreme anxiety attacks because we are all desperate to know - what do Rhyzm and Maxx smell like? Well, worry no more. I have put my hand into my own pocket and bought sheets of Rhyzm 425 and Maxx 400. An expensive way of answering this question, you may think. But the price pales in comparison when you think about the cost of all those therapy sessions we've all needed to try and get past our need to know about Teh Smellzzzz. So... Rhyzm doesn't smell of anything much. Just smells of rubber. Like Tenzone Ultra. Maxx smells (quite strongly) of the booster used in the original Bluefire M range (1,2,3), and Vega Japan. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 08/20/2014 at 4:21pm
way to go!!! andy rocks !!! ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/20/2014 at 8:50pm
do you hit more through the sponge? rhyzm is easier to use for drives. maxxx 500 behaves like some sort of non tacky chinese rubber that is hard. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 08/21/2014 at 9:56am
it is strange coz the maxxx 450 i received in augustus 2013 smells anything. and it was a "non to sell" version. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/21/2014 at 10:19am
Nooooooooo. This is the heart of darkness! No more uncertainty! I can't cope with it. Ahem. Anyway, this is the regular, off-the-shelf Maxx 400, and it definitely smells of Dat Tuner. Maybe the 450 is different? Maybe yours was a pre-release, untuned one? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: FlatHitter
Date Posted: 06/10/2015 at 11:12am
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Im testing maxxx-p tonight after spending a year with rhyzm 375...I have 2 training sessions under my belt, tonight is "match play"..so far, press like! ------------- If your phone is'nt ringing, it's probably me... |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 06/10/2015 at 11:55am
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Ah, Who gave you the shovel! -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 06/10/2015 at 2:46pm
| so hijacking this thread alittle, any comparison between rhyzm and rasant grip? thinking of it on my backhand |
Posted By: FlatHitter
Date Posted: 06/11/2015 at 11:54am
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Well..first, rhyzm375 is a very good rubber. I spent a year or more, approx. 4 sheets worth and a lot of hours training with it. maxxx-p is also a very good rubber, not better, but a little different...first, it can spin the ball away from the table with a lot more force, 42.5 degree sponge vs. 37.5.. the "dip" at the end of the loop arch is a lot sharper, the balls land on the table. my favorite shot, is now improved...my flat hits are a fair amount quicker, and a lot lower to the net, the rubber grips the ball better! that, is a fact..serves are about the same although, I got a few more "double bouncers" with maxxx-p because of the extra grip and maybe, the harder sponge...service returns..flips..all good, perhaps a little better with maxx...loops against backspin..I sent a few long, a small adjustment will be needed. the ones that landed got blasted fairly easy unless, it was placed better. A faster brush stroke will do it,this rubber has a lot of grip! To get the bottom line..if you are using the polyball, I dont think there is another rubber on the market that will be any better than maxxx-p...I have used butterfly TO5,.. maxx-p, has more grip, speed around the same when looping...I will be using this rubber untill the nationals in december... ------------- If your phone is'nt ringing, it's probably me... |