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Topic: 2013 Asian Championships (Videos)
Posted By: Stef
Subject: 2013 Asian Championships (Videos)
Date Posted: 07/02/2013 at 11:42am
HD-videos  (full match|short form):

MT-SF China - Korea

Match 4: Ma Long vs Lee Sangsu (full match|short form)



MT-SF Japan - Chinese Taipei

Match 1: Jun Mizutani vs Chen Chien-An (full match|short form)


Match 2: Kenta Matsudaira vs Chuang Chih-Yuan (full match|short form)


Match 3: Seiya Kishikawa vs Chiang Hung-Chieh (full match|short form)


Match 4: Jun Mizutani vs Chuang Chih-Yuan (full match|short form)


Match 5: Kenta Matsudaira vs Chen Chien-An (full match|short form)



MT-F China - Japan

Match 1: Xu Xin vs Jun Mizutani (full match|short form)


Match 2: Ma Long vs Lee Sangsu (full match|short form)


Match 3: Fan Zhendong vs Seiya Kishikawa (full match|short form)



MS-SF Kenta Matsudaira vs Ma Long (full match|short form)






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Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/02/2013 at 8:22pm
thanks stef!

by the way lee sang su beat ma long last year....

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Posted By: Chopper88
Date Posted: 07/02/2013 at 8:26pm
More please


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/02/2013 at 8:55pm
Lee Sangsu turns Ma Long into a Chinese Dimitri Ovtcharov 2.0.  I do wonder what about the backhand serve transformed the game and whether it was more about Ma Long being out of place after the serve or Lee Sang Su having trouble with the spin.

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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 3:40am
# Hi Stef and Thanks for the thread! 
Thanks also for the great short form of the full match you posted!! Thumbs Up

1) MT-SF/CHN-KOR/Match4: MA Long - Lee Sangsu [Full match/chinese|HD]

Direct:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYriQbnTbg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYriQbnTbg

2) MT-SF/JPN-TPE (total: 5 matches/games) [Full match/chinese|HD] 
 • Mizutani Jun - Chen Chien An
 • Matsudaira Kenta - Chuang Chih-Yuan
 • Kishikawa Seiya - Jiang Hongje
 • Mizutani Jun - Chuang Chih-Yuan
 • Matsudaira Kenta - Chen Chien-An
Direct:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrj_kWwN9AI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrj_kWwN9AI

Note1: Actually direct links are useless, anyone could push the YouTube icon/button downright in the video-window (this new feature is a recent upgrade of MyTT's interface) 

Note2: Anyone who likes to make quality short forms or highlights of JPN-TPE's important matches he/she could download directly from my channel the full HD-video




Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 3:46am
# (WT-Final) China Vs Hong Kong [HD] [Full match/chinese]

 



Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 4:53am
First post updated with Jun Mizutani vs Chen Chien-An match.


Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 10:21am
where's zhang jike? now he is too good for asian championship too?

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 12:35pm
China takes different players for strategic reasons.

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Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 4:29pm
New video added to my first post Smile


Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

China takes different players for strategic reasons.


If I'm not mistaken the Asian Champion from this event will have a spot in this year's world cup. ZJK has a spot already as the reigning WTTC champ. I bet LGL want Ma, Xu or Yan to get the other spot for China.


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 5:22pm
# (MT-Final) CHINA Vs JAPAN [HD] [Full match/chinese]
 • [game1]  Xu Xin -  Mizutani Jun
 • [game2]  Ma Long - Matsudaira Kenta
 • [game3]  Fan Zhendong - Kishikawa Seiya


 



Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/03/2013 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

China takes different players for strategic reasons.


If I'm not mistaken the Asian Champion from this event will have a spot in this year's world cup. ZJK has a spot already as the reigning WTTC champ. I bet LGL want Ma, Xu or Yan to get the other spot for China.


shouldn't ma long already have a spot too since he is the reigning wold cup winner?

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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 07/04/2013 at 10:40am
Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

China takes different players for strategic reasons.


If I'm not mistaken the Asian Champion from this event will have a spot in this year's world cup. ZJK has a spot already as the reigning WTTC champ. I bet LGL want Ma, Xu or Yan to get the other spot for China.


shouldn't ma long already have a spot too since he is the reigning wold cup winner?


Nope. They have just changed the rules for World Cup.


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Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 07/04/2013 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

China takes different players for strategic reasons.
Why?


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/04/2013 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

China takes different players for strategic reasons.
Why?

It varies - from exposing new talent to top level competition (Yan An, Fan Zhendong) to whom they want to qualify for another event or even whom they want to get a certain title on their resume.  They didn't have to send Ma Long to the last World Cup but they did.  My main point was that the fact that ZJK is or is not on the team doesn't mean much without knowing something about why that we don't know.


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Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/04/2013 at 8:14pm
Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 


Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 07/04/2013 at 8:42pm
Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 
I am not sure I can agree


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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 1:44am
Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 

hard to believe that kishikawa is in the team and defeated MA LONG in the past, very female play too BH


Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 11:48am
The way ZJK is playing now, im pretty sure leaving him out is good for everybody. He would have probably dropped his match anyway. You can't make him put effort in such events. 

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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 
I am not sure I can agree
I am pretty sure I disagree. FZD did not dominate anything. I really dont understand why FZD gets all the chances. He gets pushed forward hard at the expense of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, and even Yan An. He has nothing in his game to capture your attention. Worse, with all that build, he still lack power, due to his super short BH swing (or should I call it a twitch) and FH that is too close to the body. The thing is, Yan An has less muscle and even shorter strokes, but puts on quite a smack on the ball.

I am sure LGL has his reasons (please spare me the who-are-you-to-question-LGL replies), but he is sacrificing better players meanwhile. The only Ace that FZD has at all, is his age. That is if you believe the official age. He will end up like Chen Qi, solid player who never achieved nothing.


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Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 
I am not sure I can agree
I am pretty sure I disagree. FZD did not dominate anything. I really dont understand why FZD gets all the chances. He gets pushed forward hard at the expense of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, and even Yan An. He has nothing in his game to capture your attention. Worse, with all that build, he still lack power, due to his super short BH swing (or should I call it a twitch) and FH that is too close to the body. The thing is, Yan An has less muscle and even shorter strokes, but puts on quite a smack on the ball.

I am sure LGL has his reasons (please spare me the who-are-you-to-question-LGL replies), but he is sacrificing better players meanwhile. The only Ace that FZD has at all, is his age. That is if you believe the official age. He will end up like Chen Qi, solid player who never achieved nothing.
Make sure you guys understand I am talking about game 5 between the two, not the whole match......
Fan is a coach favorite for good reasons, watch the match between him and Lin Guaoyuan, junior final...in today's game you need power to go with technical game, Lin is technically perfect but no power......Fan is like the Lebron James of table tennis..


Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 

I am not sure I can agree

I am pretty sure I disagree. FZD did not dominate anything. I really dont understand why FZD gets all the chances. He gets pushed forward hard at the expense of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, and even Yan An. He has nothing in his game to capture your attention. Worse, with all that build, he still lack power, due to his super short BH swing (or should I call it a twitch) and FH that is too close to the body. The thing is, Yan An has less muscle and even shorter strokes, but puts on quite a smack on the ball.

I am sure LGL has his reasons (please spare me the who-are-you-to-question-LGL replies), but he is sacrificing better players meanwhile. The only Ace that FZD has at all, is his age. That is if you believe the official age. He will end up like Chen Qi, solid player who never achieved nothing.

Make sure you guys understand I am talking about game 5 between the two, not the whole match......
Fan is a coach favorite for good reasons, watch the match between him and Lin Guaoyuan, junior final...in today's game you need power to go with technical game, Lin is technically perfect but no power......Fan is like the Lebron James of table tennis..



i disagree with this. wrong comparison in my opinion. the lebron james of table tennis is MA LONG (few years ago lebron was clearly the best player in NBA, he just didnt have a championship then, same situation now with ma long, many think he is the best tt player, he just doesnt have the championship....yet). i think you should compare Fan to another basketball player

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Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Game 5 between Fan and Kishikawa is hell of a game. Very impressive dominance by the young player against a very established one. 

I am not sure I can agree


Make sure you guys understand I am talking about game 5 between the two, not the whole match......
Fan is a coach favorite for good reasons, watch the match between him and Lin Guaoyuan, junior final...in today's game you need power to go with technical game, Lin is technically perfect but no power......Fan is like the Lebron James of table tennis..



i disagree with this. wrong comparison in my opinion. the lebron james of table tennis is MA LONG (few years ago lebron was clearly the best player in NBA, he just didnt have a championship then, same situation now with ma long, many think he is the best tt player, he just doesnt have the championship....yet). i think you should compare Fan to another basketball player
Lebron James was very physically strong and matured at a very young age with good skills, Ma Long is not comparable in that regard. Fan is a far better match.


Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 1:49pm
IF YOU REFER TO THE COMMENTS IMMEDIATELY ABOVE YOU DON'T NEED TO fKKN! QUOTE THE ENTIRE PAGE

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Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

IF YOU REFER TO THE COMMENTS IMMEDIATELY ABOVE YOU DON'T NEED TO fKKN! QUOTE THE ENTIRE PAGE
Wow, you really know how to use that Caps Lock key....smart guy


Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 3:03pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

I really dont understand why FZD gets all the chances. He gets pushed forward hard at the expense of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, and even Yan An.



Other than winning the Junior title, Fan's most important breakthrough was CNT internal qualifiers for WTTC 2013, where he beat out Fang and Zhou even though he didn't win a direct ticket. The coaches still picked him for singles in the end because they see more potential in him than Fang and Zhou.

Yan is another story. He's got more chances at the international stage than any other youngsters, for sure.


Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 3:10pm
Anyone who can't see Fan is phenomenon needs to get their eyes checked or they just don't know what is going on


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 5:30pm
Lebron James was with a terrible Cavaliers team for so many years, and tried to put the team on his back for so long yet fell just short often. When he finally went to the Heat (synonymous with Ma Long getting chances on the biggest stage) he choked once then won twice. Ma Long has choked more than once, and won...0 times. 


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 5:54pm
The Lebron comparison was about the precocious physical development of both players. People are being parochial in trying to make it fit in every single way.

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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The Lebron comparison was about the precocious physical development of both players. People are being parochial in trying to make it fit in every single way.

My post was in response to mrdoodski's post "the lebron james of table tennis is MA LONG (few years ago lebron was clearly the best player in NBA, he just didnt have a championship then, same situation now with ma long, many think he is the best tt player,"


Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/05/2013 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by The Observer The Observer wrote:

Anyone who can't see Fan is phenomenon needs to get their eyes checked or they just don't know what is going on


i dont know....maybe his technique is too perfect so it doesn't seem so spectacular to me. thats why i dont think so highly of fan zhendong. among the young chinese players the one who currently excites me is yan an. i guess i enjoy watching players with big forehands LOL. same with zhang jike before he won the wttc. he is so efficient with his strokes that it doesn't look so spectacular, so he didn't look so good to me. i had ranked him 3rd behind xu xin and ma long as the big 3 new generation players. funny i thought of it that way before.

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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 12:56am
Yan An is already an elite player. His real world ranking is 3 or 4, he just needs a few more tournaments to get there. 
Fan Zhendong has great potential. And always will. 


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Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 5:41am
First post updated with more videos (full match/short form) from men's team final Smile


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 7:34am
Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The Lebron comparison was about the precocious physical development of both players. People are being parochial in trying to make it fit in every single way.

My post was in response to mrdoodski's post "the lebron james of table tennis is MA LONG (few years ago lebron was clearly the best player in NBA, he just didnt have a championship then, same situation now with ma long, many think he is the best tt player,"


Understood, but all Observer meant was that physically, Fan Zhendong is obviously a man amongst boys, like Lebron James was coming up.  Lebron played and practiced against NBA players as a kid because he was physically able to, not because his shooting and defense etc. were up to par.  That's the analogy being drawn here.  Whatever one thinks of FZD, it is LGL's opinion that he warrants that opportunity and I think it is more about how far ahead of others his age he is.  FZD would largely be bored playing people his age.


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Posted By: proSpin
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 8:59am
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Yan An is already an elite player. His real world ranking is 3 or 4, he just needs a few more tournaments to get there. 
Fan Zhendong has great potential. And always will. 

That is ridiculous. Real world Ranking 3 or 4? So what makes Wang Hao, Zhang Jike, Ma Long, Xu Xin. Besides them, there's still European players like Timo Boll and Ovtcharov  Yan An is good, but he lacks experience and strategy. Other than his remarkable speed and power, he doesn't have any other outstanding points to bring himself any further. FYI, he lost to Mizutani Jun in Kuwait Open 2013. 




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Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 9:33am
Originally posted by Stef Stef wrote:

First post updated with more videos (full match/short form) from men's team final Smile
Thank you! It is nice to have these links.




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Posted By: The Observer
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 10:01am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

[QUOTE=NextLevel]

Understood, but all Observer meant was that physically, Fan Zhendong is obviously a man amongst boys, like Lebron James was coming up.  Lebron played and practiced against NBA players as a kid because he was physically able to, not because his shooting and defense etc. were up to par.  That's the analogy being drawn here.  Whatever one thinks of FZD, it is LGL's opinion that he warrants that opportunity and I think it is more about how far ahead of others his age he is.  FZD would largely be bored playing people his age.
Thank you for explaining that. 

Anyone knows the results of the competition? ITTF doesn't have them updated.


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 11:28am
# Mixed Doubles - Final (2 versions)

Niwa Koki / Sayaka Hirano (JPN) - Lee Sang Su / Park Young Sook (KOR)

Full match (High Definition)


Full match + Award ceremony (High Quality)



 


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 11:42am
# Women's Singles: Quarters & Semis

(ws-qf) ZHU Yuling - YU Mengyu [HD] [Full match/chinese]


(ws-qf) CHEN Meng - FENG Tianwei [Full match|HQ] 


(ws-sf) Liu Shiwen - Chen Meng [HD] [Full match/chinese]


(ws-sf) DING Ning - ZHU Yuling [HD] [Full match/chinese]




Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 11:58am
# Men Doubles: Quarters & Semis

[1st version @  http://www.youtube.com/janus770" rel="nofollow - ]
(md-qf) Ma Long / Xu Xin - Lee Sang Su / Jung Young Sik [Full match|HQ]


[2nd version @ http://www.youtube.com/ttjanus" rel="nofollow - (md-qf) Ma Long / Xu Xin - Lee Sang Su / Jung Young Sik [HD] [Full match/Chinese]


(md-qf) Yan An / Zhou You - Matsudaira Kenji /Chan Kazuhiro [Full match|HQ] 


(md-sf) Zhou Yu / Yan An - Gao Ning / Yang Zi [HD] [last 3 sets/chinese]


(md-sf) Ma Long / Xu Xin - Niwa Koki / Matsudaira Kenta [HD] [Full match/Chinese]






Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 5:13pm
# http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61498&PID=732650&title=2013-asian-championships-videos#732650" rel="nofollow - my previous post on men doubles matches (quarters & semis) updated/completed!


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 5:19pm
# Men Doubles Final :: Ma Long / Xu Xin - Yan An / Zhou Yu [HD] [Full match/chinese] 



Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 5:20pm
# Women Singles Final :: DING Ning Vs LIU Shiwen [HD] [Full* match/chinese] 




Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 7:10pm
Fan Zhendong vs Kishikawa video now added to the first post of the thread! Smile


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 9:18pm
Beating any CNT member is not easy, so people have to credit Mizutani for being a beast, no matter how they feel about his ultimate prospects.

EDIT:  I think we should have a concept of the  CNT Mizutani-Boll-Ovtcharov line, where CNT players who can lose to these guys are one one side of the line and players who do not are on the other side.  It's obvious that the top 4 CNT players have crossed this line, but just about anyone else is still fuzzy.


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/06/2013 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The Lebron comparison was about the precocious physical development of both players. People are being parochial in trying to make it fit in every single way.

My post was in response to mrdoodski's post "the lebron james of table tennis is MA LONG (few years ago lebron was clearly the best player in NBA, he just didnt have a championship then, same situation now with ma long, many think he is the best tt player,"


Understood, but all Observer meant was that physically, Fan Zhendong is obviously a man amongst boys, like Lebron James was coming up.  Lebron played and practiced against NBA players as a kid because he was physically able to, not because his shooting and defense etc. were up to par.  That's the analogy being drawn here.  Whatever one thinks of FZD, it is LGL's opinion that he warrants that opportunity and I think it is more about how far ahead of others his age he is.  FZD would largely be bored playing people his age.

Guess I should read the whole thread next time Evil Smile


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/07/2013 at 6:23am
# Men's Singles Semifinals

(ms-sf) XU Xin - YAN An [HD] [last part/chinese] 


(ms-sf) MA Long - MATSUDAIRA Kenta [HD] [Full match/chinese


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[If you think that is fair, make a quick reference in your video description to your resourse(s) or to my channel(s) - Guys, I have spent many hours/days to download/upload such very big (sometimes huge) files from strange addresses many times not easily available but using various tricks and ideas].

I think all this will serve more the tt-community

All the Best!!! 

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PS. Any youtuber could also use my HD-Videos for "Best (shots) of a tt-event", or any "TT-Compilations", and sure for Translations from Chinese to English. # Sorry for my bad english!



Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/07/2013 at 9:41am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LBYFb_fYeE" rel="nofollow - 2013 Asian Championships MS-Finals -- Ma Long vs Yan An

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FH -- DHS Hurricane 3

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HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball


Posted By: Jagged
Date Posted: 07/07/2013 at 11:23am
Originally posted by janus700 janus700 wrote:


[If you think that is fair, make a quick reference in your video description to your resourse(s) or to my channel(s) - Guys, I have spent many hours/days to download/upload such very big (sometimes huge) files from strange addresses many times not easily available but using various tricks and ideas].



The Great Firewall of China really is a b*tch. Thanks Janus for your wonderful effort and generosity!


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/07/2013 at 4:31pm
# Men Singles Final :: MA Long Vs YAN An [HD] [Full match/chinese] 





Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/08/2013 at 3:33am
# WD-Final: Ding Ning / Liu Shiwen - Zhu Yuling / Chen Meng [HD] [Full match/chinese] 



Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/08/2013 at 6:03pm
# Men Singles Final :: MA Long Vs YAN An [HD] [Full Match/Short Form]




Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/08/2013 at 6:16pm

#  a PLAYLIST of HD-Videos (basically full matches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5ozvC4R4c" rel="nofollow -
[A wide collection of various matches from almost all stages of AC 2013]

  • http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ



Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/08/2013 at 7:08pm
wow, i am surprised ML disposed of YA in such fashion. 4:0 twice in a row. That's no walk in the park. Nobody beats Yan An 4:0. 

I bet Yan An is getting seriously pissed. He still has not won nothing. I want to see his reaction when he finally beats Ma Long at some final. May be he will tear something like ZJK. 


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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 07/08/2013 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

wow, i am surprised ML disposed of YA in such fashion. 4:0 twice in a row. That's no walk in the park. Nobody beats Yan An 4:0. 

I bet Yan An is getting seriously pissed. He still has not won nothing. I want to see his reaction when he finally beats Ma Long at some final. May be he will tear something like ZJK. 


Not that surprised......Ma Long is still the most explosive player from China. Not necessarily the BEST player but when everything is clicking, he is unstoppable.

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Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/10/2013 at 10:29am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44jPsDHVt3U&feature=c4-overview&list=UUD-jcIkapVWhGEL1mXKAYkg" rel="nofollow - 2013 Asian Championships MS-SF: Kenta Matsudaira - Ma Long (full match|short form)

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FH -- DHS Hurricane 3

BH -- Japtec Experience


HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/10/2013 at 5:45pm

#  a PLAYLIST of HD-Videos (basically full matches  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5ozvC4R4c" rel="nofollow - )
[A wide collection of various matches from almost all stages of AC 2013]

 •  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ

#  Anyone could find many full matches in short form [HD-Videos] in the  http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61498&PID=731892&title=2013-asian-championships-videos#731892" rel="nofollow - of this thread
    Thumbs Up Many Thanks to Stef for his great work!!! 

Visit and Subscribe to Stef's YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/StefJesper" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/StefJesper




Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 07/10/2013 at 6:04pm
@mrdoodzki and janus700

Thank you very much for promoting my videos/channel - so kind of you both Smile


Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 07/10/2013 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by naijachief naijachief wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

wow, i am surprised ML disposed of YA in such fashion. 4:0 twice in a row. That's no walk in the park. Nobody beats Yan An 4:0. 

I bet Yan An is getting seriously pissed. He still has not won nothing. I want to see his reaction when he finally beats Ma Long at some final. May be he will tear something like ZJK. 


Not that surprised......Ma Long is still the most explosive player from China. Not necessarily the BEST player but when everything is clicking, he is unstoppable.

 
It was an interesting final. Both players were very tense in the beginning. They know themselves so very well... I don't think YA had a good day, he missed quite a few shots that looked like his to score. Ma Long is a smart player (to me he is not "explosive", he is a great all-rounder) yet he would do even better if he was less nervous/tense. YA is still very young and he is well on his way... Great match, no denying.


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Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 3:05am
Originally posted by janus700 janus700 wrote:

@mrdoodzki:  Stef already has posted this match (before you) in his collection (in the 1st post)
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#<font size="4" style="font-weight: bold;">  a PLAYLIST of HD-Videos (basically full matches <font size="4" style="font-weight: bold;">+ [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5ozvC4R4c" rel="nofollow]<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif]1 short form[/URL]<font size="4" style="font-weight: bold;">)
<font size="4" style="font-weight: bold; : rgb251, 251, 253; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">[<font size="2" style="font-weight: bold; : rgb251, 251, 253;">A wide collection of various matches from almost all stages of AC 2013]

 •  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbdXhTbmweToA8gsLfQqndt0ZcbMFhCRZ

<b style="font-size: medium; line-height: 1.4;">#  Anyone could find many full matches in short form [HD-Videos] in the [URL=http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61498&PID=731892&title=2013-asian-championships-videos#731892" rel="nofollow]<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif]1st post[/URL] of this thread
<b style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 1.4;">    Thumbs Up Many Thanks to Stef for his great work!!! 
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">►Visit and Subscribe to Stef's YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/StefJesper" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/StefJesper









oops sorry i ddnt notice

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FH -- DHS Hurricane 3

BH -- Japtec Experience


HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 3:22am
@mrdoodzki:  

No problem, have a good day!! Smile


Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 5:45pm
Nobody is gona comment on Yan An beating ML + XX when partnered with Zhou Yu?? I mean I like Zhou Yu, i think hes more talented than Fan Zhendong, but he can't play with the elite and lost 80+ % of all points in the doubles final. Yan An's animal instinctis and reflexes are enormous weapon in doubles. He is the fastest tt player in the history of the game.  Takes everything off the bounce and he is NEVER in good position and his body is weirdly bent on every shot just so he can get the ball right out. The thing is, in doubles you are always out of position and have to make weird shorts. That's why he's so good there. That people that talked him down, you know who you are, you will be proven wrong a hundred times in the next years to come.

I just wish Zhou Yu or Fang Bo could get more opportunities. Looks like FZD is getting pushed everywhere. I don't remember a new player being promoted like that


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 5:49pm
Honestly, XX has lost his confidence since the WTTC.

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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Honestly, XX has lost his confidence since the WTTC.
 
You are right, but, everybody is focused on Ma Long, so, XX always gets a pass. lol.


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Posted By: proSpin
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 10:03pm
lol, real world ranking 3 or 4 guy cant and haven't taken any Protour Men's Singles title. Why is that so? Intelligence or speed or power? Well, can't be speed or power. Cos he has both. Guess that means he lacks the other. 
Yea, about zhou yu, so what if he's has a sick backhand and forehand, if he's only good at topspin rallies from distances away from the table and suck at short ball placement and close to table action, he's nothing in LGL's eyes. Fang Bo has a stable gameplay, great topspin and placement. But you need to know Fan Zhendong also possess the same style but with more power and variations in his shots and he is way younger which means he has more room for development compared to Fang bo. 
And yes, Someone will be proven wrong a hundred times in the next few years to come. 


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Posted By: proSpin
Date Posted: 07/11/2013 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

wow, i am surprised ML disposed of YA in such fashion. 4:0 twice in a row. That's no walk in the park. Nobody beats Yan An 4:0. 

I bet Yan An is getting seriously pissed. He still has not won nothing. I want to see his reaction when he finally beats Ma Long at some final. May be he will tear something like ZJK. 

Xu xin also won Yan An 4-0 before at korea Open 2013.
Maybe Yan An will tear his panties after he plays against Ma Long LOL


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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 07/12/2013 at 2:20am
Man forget about xu xin. zero bh and long, side spin, lobby fh. Yan An is gona win a lot of major events in the future. Xu xin will always be a softie. He can't compare to Ma Lin or Wang Hao. 

The thing is, I am anything but a fan of Yan An. I hate his ugly style. He makes even good players look bad. But I must be honest, he has some genetic advantage EVEN compared to CNT players. He's just too frikkin fast. That's nature's gift to him, and other players will have to compensate for that with extra skill. Just about anyone in cnt has better skill and more proper shots but they just can't keep up with his speed. Look how he waits for the receive of the serve - his whole forearm is over the table, even his elbow is over the table. He wants to go all the way to the net and just grab the ball before it even touches the table. That's crazy. 

Fan Zhendong's strenght, his muscle hypertrophy, that's not nature. That's some steroids and a lot of workouts : ) Believe me, its not the same. Soon LGL will get frustrated with him.


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Posted By: proSpin
Date Posted: 07/12/2013 at 2:45am
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Man forget about xu xin. zero bh and long, side spin, lobby fh. Yan An is gona win a lot of major events in the future. Xu xin will always be a softie. He can't compare to Ma Lin or Wang Hao. 

The thing is, I am anything but a fan of Yan An. I hate his ugly style. He makes even good players look bad. But I must be honest, he has some genetic advantage EVEN compared to CNT players. He's just too frikkin fast. That's nature's gift to him, and other players will have to compensate for that with extra skill. Just about anyone in cnt has better skill and more proper shots but they just can't keep up with his speed. Look how he waits for the receive of the serve - his whole forearm is over the table, even his elbow is over the table. He wants to go all the way to the net and just grab the ball before it even touches the table. That's crazy. 

Fan Zhendong's strenght, his muscle hypertrophy, that's not nature. That's some steroids and a lot of workouts : ) Believe me, its not the same. Soon LGL will get frustrated with him.

Well, I agree that Yan An's speed is unmatchable for any other CNT players and his persistence can bring overwhelming pressure for his opponents. But its really disappointing that Yan An does not think or play smart in a game, probably due to his quick playing style which doesnt allow much time for him to think through... He has every quality of a top player, determination, persistence and physical fitness but he lacks game intelligence Stern Smile 
I have seen Yan An do explosive forehand drives from the backhand side, I must say i'm impressed. But still it doesn't change my views on his future development unless he tries to adopt a smarter playing style. 


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 07/12/2013 at 8:52am
Originally posted by naijachief naijachief wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Honestly, XX has lost his confidence since the WTTC.
 
You are right, but, everybody is focused on Ma Long, so, XX always gets a pass. lol.

He has also been unlucky to have defaults going into critical matches (his opponent defaulted against him before his match against Yan An, and his two opponents before Wang Hao defaulted against him at the China Open).  I just hope the run of bad luck will end.  I see that the backhand is getting better and better so it is only a matter of time before they either decide it is natural or they decide he should just have it but not use it unless forced to and that will remove the confusion in his game.


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