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Topic: Hinoki Carbon Blades
Posted By: Toprank
Subject: Hinoki Carbon Blades
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 12:31am
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I've become interested Hinoki Carbon Blades and to learn as much as I can, I started a master-list of Hinoki Composite Blades. If you can add any blades or make corrections of any kind I would be appreciative Hinoki Carbon Blades (89 Total) Adidas Radix Impress Adidas Radix Express Adidas Radix Ultimate Adiddas Fibertec Extreme Adidas Strike Carbon Andro Kinetic Supreme Zylon/Kiso Hinoki Off- Andro Hiloom Avalox J-Aramid Butterfly Schlager Carbon Butterfly Schlager Carbon Light Butterfly Primorac Carbon Butterfly Sardius Butterfly Photino Butterfly Photino Light Butterfly Gergley 21 Butterfly Kong Linghui Special Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon Butterfly Kreanga Carbon Butterfly Iolite NEO Butterfly Reygundo Butterfly Cofferlait Butterfly Supreme Speed Butterfly Iolite Butterfly Gergley T5000 Buttterfly Gergley Alpha Butterfly Keyshot Alpha Butterfly Ishilon Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 (jpen) Butterfly Chinese ULC (cpen) Butterfly Quetzal Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+ Darker 7P 2A Carbon Darker Arly-Carbon Darker Esteem Darker BX-700 a.k.a. Center Carbon Dawei GTS Donic Li Ping Kitex Donic Carbo System Off- Donic Carbo System OFF Donic Waldner Carbopower Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed Donic Waldner Legend Carbon Donic Persson Dotec Off Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki Dr. Neubauer Hercules Joola Markovic Joola Rossi Force Joola Rossi Emotion Joola TPE Fight Joola TPE Perform Juic Hinoki Carbon III Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power Mizuno World Champion NeoTTec Hinoki Carbon Nexy Spartacus Nexy Airang Nexy Sahara Nexy Oscar Nittaku Alulass Nittaku Noveliar G Carbon Sanwei HC-1 Sanwei HC-2 Sanwei HC-3 Sanwei HC-4 Sanwei HC-5 Sanwei HC-6 Sanwei HC-7 TSP Hino Carbon Power TSP Hino Carbon Speed Tibhar Inca Victas Quartet Speed Xiom Strato Xiom Ignito Xiom Axelo Xiom Speed Xiom Control (All +, Off -, Off) Xiom Zetro Quad XVT ZL Hinoki Yinhe Kiso Hinoki Woven Carbon DL-1 Yinhe Bogen Yinhe Z7-VF Yinhe Z5-VF 729/Dynasty Hinoki Carbon 729/LKT Transformer N*1 Carbon 729/LKT Zebra Carbon 729/LKT 368 Hinoki Carbon ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
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Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 1:25am
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Donic Waldner Legend Carbon Xiom Zetro Quad NeoTTec Hinoki Carbon AVX J-Aramid ------------- OSP Virtuoso T8O Max / Ventus Spin 1.8 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65875&title=feedback-drbacterius" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 1:38am
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Thanks DrB...ADDED! ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 1:47am
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You left out Butterfly Cofferlait (ALC), and Butterfly Supreme Speed (ALC) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 6:33am
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Adidas Radix Impress, Adidas Radix Express, Adidas Radix Ultimate, Adidas Fibertec Extreme ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 6:38am
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tibhar nexy inca ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 6:42am
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LKT Transformer N°1 Carbon LKT Zebra Carbon Butterfly Iolite Butterfly Supreme Speed (cf liulin04)
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Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 7:47am
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Butterfly Gergely T5000 Butterfly Gergely Alpha Butterfly Keyshot Alpha Buterfly Ishlion Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN) Victas Quartet Speed Darker Esteem Nexy Sahara Nexy Oscar Adidas Strike Carbon Cornilleau HinoCarbon OFF+ Donic Persson Dotec OFF Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power (and maybe Aggrex 44 Carbon, not sure about that) Mizuno World Champion XIOM Axelo ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 9:18am
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I love hinoki-carbon blades!!! You can add to your list: Yinhe Venus V-1 Yinhe Venus V-2 Yinhe T-1 to T-8 (cypress) Donic Carbo System Off+ Donic Waldner Carbopower Joola Markovic (same construction as Joola Emotion) Sanwei HC-1 to HC-7 Andro Hiloom Andro Treiber Z Darker Aryl-carbon I am not sure about Donic Persson Dotec OFF. I played with it and I don't remember it having hinoki outers nor carbon. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 11:33am
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Thanks for the additions MG, Yogi, Olio, TTping!
89 and counting. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 09/23/2013 at 3:10pm
Treiber Z should be a koto blade  ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: Gauguin
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 1:02pm
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BTF Innerforce T5000... ------------- Rosewood NCT V - Nimbus Soft / T64 OSP Expert - Galaxy Moon / Xiom Vega PRO |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 2:14pm
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Nittaku hinoblaze. Sorry, it's not a carbon but well an all wood blade.
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Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 2:57pm
Isn't Innerforce Limba? ------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Gauguin wrote:Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 3:15pm
All Innerforce blades have the following construction: Limba - limba - fiber - ayous - fiber - limba - limba So no hinoki in there. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 6:46pm
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Add the new Dr. Neubauer Hercules to your list: Kiso Hinoki with some sort of fiber. I do not know the exact composition since it has a wooden edge guard so you cannot see the plies. Excellent feel and touch. I'd say it is All in slow and touch shots but with a nice catapult when you loop hard with the speed then being more on the Off- side. Best blade if have ever used for anti. ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 6:50pm
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The http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/donic-waldner-dotec-hinoki.html" rel="nofollow - Donic Dotec Waldner Hinoki is a 3-ply hinoki blade (no carbon). there is the http://www.paddlepalace.com/Waldner-Dotec-Carbon/productinfo/SDWDC/" rel="nofollow - Donic Dotec Waldner Carbon but its outer are not hinoki. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 at 7:08pm
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Galaxy/Yinhe Bogen Galaxy/Yinhe T-10 (source http://stervinou.net/ttbdb/" rel="nofollow - ttbdb ) ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 01/06/2014 at 3:08pm
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Just updated the list. I deleted the couple that didn't fit the bill and added the ones that were mentioned. 91 and counting... ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 01/06/2014 at 7:46pm
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My T7 is Arylate Carbon Cypress. I still like it a lot... ------------- (1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH. |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 01/06/2014 at 9:10pm
The T series actually uses Juniper instead of Cypress.
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 1:34am
| None of the Yinhe t series are made from hinoki |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 1:39am
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can't we say juniper and cypress are close enough to hinoki to play the same role in the designer's mind? so they could fit the bill here? I know purists will not agree but there is some room to argue that way isn't it? ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: TT Profi
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 7:29am
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Sanwei King of Carbon
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Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 11:04am
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Thanks a lot for all your work. I went quickly trough the list and made some spelling corrections and comments in red: Butterfly Gergley 21 Gergely 21 Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon Amultart ZL Carbon Butterfly
Gergley T5000 Gergely T5000 Buttterfly
Gergley Alpha Butterfly Ishilon Ishlion Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Ryu Seung Min ZLC Cornilleau
Hinotec OFF+ Cornileau
Hino Carbon OFF+ These 2 Cornilleau are the same blades. The correct name is cornilleau hinotec off+ carbon Donic Persson Dotec Off I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 2:53pm
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Thanks again for the input. Tough call on the T Series blades. From what I can tell Hinoki is specific type of Cypress as well as Juniper is in the Cypress family. All being in the same family, is that enough to be classified as hinoki. I just decided to keep this list as just Hinoki so I eliminated the T Series blades. If there are other Cypress and Juniper blades on this list let me know, as I can take them off as well. Ttping- Thanks for the spelling corrections and other contributions. I think I fixed them. Ttprof- Anywhere you can confirm the blade is Hinoki? It doesn't look hinoki from the pics that I've seen. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 3:40pm
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I agree with fatt. The Yinhe T-series really play similar to hinoki-carbon, enough to be on the list. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 3:47pm
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No one has posted about the Avalox J-Arimid, I believe it has Hinoki outer ply. ------------- Shifter |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 4:06pm
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it's already in the list just spelled this way: AVX J-Aramid ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 9:11am
Well, according to the official Donic website the blade composition is
0,6 Hinoki Dotec 0,6 Koto 5,0 Dotec-Balsa 0,6 Koto Dotec 0,6 Hinoki The Dotec should be some kind of synthetic fiber, maybe there is no carbon in it, but it seems to be a composite blade with hinoki outers for shure, same applies to the Waldner Dotec Hinoki. Dotec technology is not only about the strange handle, it implies also composite layers if you think that you can trust Donic on this:) ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: suds79
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 9:39am
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Looks like you need to add... |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 8:19pm
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Bought a Xiom Cpen Strato and surprised to see that it is "Made in China". This is my first Xiom blade after a "Made in Japan" RSM Jpen. Search the net and found out that it is nothing new. It plays fine with power and feel . It got a thicker than normal handle which needs some getting used to. And weight is on the heavy side. Looks like YinHe has something similar in structure. So exactly who is making it for Xiom in China? Interest to know where those more expensive Xiom Hayabusa series are made these days. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 8:43pm
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When I hear Hinoki, I think of the Kiso Hinoki blade, not the others in the cypress family. Especially some of the Chinese so called Kinoki don't feel much like Kiso Hinoki... they feel much harder. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 11:17pm
| Hinoki is nothing like Cypress, its distantly related but different species and different genus. Think about how different the 800 species of Eucalypt are from each other and they are in the same genus. American redwood is just as closely related to Hinoki as Cypress, actually it's probably more similar. Are you going to put that on the Hinoki list too, with the couple thousand other trees somewhat related? Every large tree in the Northern hemisphere perhaps? Because that about where you'll end up |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 2:24am
You are completely right about the composition. I never checked the composition on this blade, just analyzed my experience with it and made the mistake because it doesn't play at all like most hinoki-composite blades on the list here. It does not even play like other blades with hinoki outers. The outer ply didn't even look like hinoki if I remember well. About the Dotec I also didn't see any extra layer in the composition. Donic talks about a technology without edges but does not talk about a fiber. Maybe it is something similar to fineline blades... ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 4:14am
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They call it "Dotec mesh", so it should be a separate composite layer, maybe really thin, I have no idea what it is actually and how the blade is built. ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/18/2014 at 9:49pm
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OK: what's like a Joola Rossi Emotion, but a bit faster (& not Arirang)? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 01/20/2014 at 6:13am
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Maybe AVX J-Aramid or Donic Li Ping Kitex...or Butterfly Ishlion:) Haven't played Darker Esteem yet, could be it... ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/20/2014 at 3:27pm
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Charlie (BBC) makes wonderful Hinoki-Carbon-blades http://abload.de/image.php?img=l1020904wouym.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://abload.de/image.php?img=l1020905asukp.jpg" rel="nofollow"> http://abload.de/image.php?img=l1020907gpuwb.jpg" rel="nofollow"> ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 11:49am
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I just did an update. 85 Blades on the list now. Any additions or subtractions let me know. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 12:14pm
it has hinoki but no carbon |
Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 4:00pm
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so what are carbon hinoki blades good for? are they primarily hitting/blocking blades for use with short pips? which of these hinoki carbon blades are best for short pips play? ------------- The Dark Side is: "Quicker, easier, more seductive" - Yoda |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 4:57pm
I think we discussed this blade dotec has a composite mesh http://www.topspintt.com/products/blades/108/persson-dotec-off-blades" rel="nofollow - http://www.topspintt.com/products/blades/108/persson-dotec-off-blades I was wondering if the Androo Hiloom. The blade says nature pure fibre...not sure what that is. I think I should change the title of the thread to Hinoki Composite Blades...
------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 5:05pm
I've never used short pips so I don't know what you look for, but I have a fascination with hinoki carbon's because they have have a soft feel in the short game (the hinoki) and stiff looping power from the hinoki and carbon working together. I would say most hinoki carbons are great for looping and the offensive game. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 6:56pm
| add the Darker BX-700 (Center Carbon), it's the best blade i've ever used! super thick hinoki layers + 1 layer of carbon. |
Posted By: ppgear
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 7:27pm
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Hrm, this reminds me, I wanted to add a feature to my site to tag each blade with a material... Back on the to-do list! ------------- Arthur Lui Revspin.net - Table Tennis Equipment Reviews Top USATT Rating: 2131 |
Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 8:54pm
I agree with mostly with what you say about hinoki. Additionally, Hinoki provides a feeling/feedback to the hand like no other materials can. However, hinoki does have its drawbacks. It's bouncy and thereby control suffers especially in the short game department. ------------- The Dark Side is: "Quicker, easier, more seductive" - Yoda |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 10:55pm
So, which Hinoki Carbon blades, besides the Joola Rossi Emotion have great control in the short game department? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 04/03/2014 at 10:59pm
Of the ones I've tried Darker 7a-2p carbon, Nittaku Alulass and Nexy Spartacus. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 3:50pm
| what happened to first post? |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 4:22pm
Thanks for caring. I think I did something with the formatting. I'll fix it now. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 4:35pm
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There's also a Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 jpen ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 6:19pm
thank you for fixing :) |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 7:27pm
Formatting fixed!! Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 jpen added. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: Tassie52
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 7:58pm
If your signature says: CURRENT BLADE- Darker 7P 2A Carbon, you might want to adjust the list.
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Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 8:01pm
Thanks, fixed. You would think that I would get the blade name correct, since I use it...guess not. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 08/08/2014 at 9:03pm
For me Dr. Neubauer Hercules which I thought was better in this department than JRE. ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/09/2014 at 12:06am
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Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 08/09/2014 at 4:51pm
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Maybe we could add a few other "hinoki-carbon" blades because they play similar but have spruce outer plies. I am thinking of: Donic World Champion 89 Persson Donic World Champion 89 Waldner Donic World Champion 89 Appelgren Nittaku Meister Balsatec Outer Nittaku Meister Balsatec Inner ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 1:27am
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Only hinoki carbon blades please apply here None of this "play - like" stuff. Otherwise we'll confuse everyone & drag on  ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 1:48am
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Forgot these three Butterfly gems: Quetzal, Holycrown, and Chinese ULC ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 2:17am
Quetzal- looks like it could be. So i'll put it on the list. Holycrown- I have one of these and it doesn't look like hinoki to me. found this thread that verifies my initial thought. won't put it on unless I get some different info. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28300 Chinese ULC- Just looked at pictures and it can possibly be Hinoki. I can't tell. I'll add it until someone tells me different. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 2:18am
Got it thanks. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: Toprank
Date Posted: 08/10/2014 at 2:19am
I'm going to have to agree with snakefish that hinoki like is not what we're going for. Thanks for the suggestions though. ------------- CURRENT BLADE- Ross Leidy White Lightning FH- Haifu Blue Whale II BH- Xiom Vega Europe |
Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 08/11/2014 at 3:16pm
No problem. I was just suggesting because these blades are so close to Kiso Hinoki feel that it would be difficult for most players to make a difference. ------------- My list of blades for sale https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wYci9423byd3X43DhSsaXOmysNKMfK-RnPWSo3UfpkQ/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 08/11/2014 at 3:57pm
You are right! Even though I had one before, I always thought it was Hinoki. I thought the Chinese ULC is just the penhold version of the Ishlion. My mistakes. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |