Help: Beginner Group Coaching
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Topic: Help: Beginner Group Coaching
Posted By: IllSonny
Subject: Help: Beginner Group Coaching
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 2:25am
Hello fellow forum! I currently coach and supervise a table tennis club at a local high school but I am unsure on how I should go about teaching things in a group setting. Just some background info on me. I have been playing table tennis for about 3 years now. My highest rating was about 1200(Because I know someone is going to ask ). The last rated tournament I played in was in March. I'm also a first year college student. As of right now, I coach alone to maybe about 20 students. I tried to split the students into 2 teams, A team and B team based on their level of skill. It kind of makes things easier. I coach each team one at a time. If I was to give an estimate of their levels, the A team is about 800-1100 and the B team is less than 800. Lately, what I have been trying to do was reinforce the basic strokes and teach simple tactics to the A team. For the B team, I have been teaching them the basic strokes, starting from forehand. Anyway, as I stated before, I was wondering on how I should group coach/teach them so that it would be more beneficial. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks! Sorry for the long post.------------- Stiga Infinity VPS Legend H3 Galaxy Moon |
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Posted By: pingpongpaddy
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 3:08am
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hi sonny 20 players How many tables? ------------- inactive dotec carbokev yin he galaxy 1 p ly FH moristo sp AX MAX bh moristo sp ax max |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 3:57am
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teach your players how to feed the ball so that you won't have a hard time feeding all of them ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 6:44am
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try this one bro: http://www.ittf.com/ittf_development/tops_manual.pdf ------------- There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market. Falco is not a booster |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 8:08am
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You really should try to get someone decent or two to demonstrate the strokes/footwork and whatnot. A 1200 player leading <1000 level players just isn't going to be all that great. ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 9:13am
But that's not really what he's asking now, is he? Let's not derail another thread, shall we, and not discourage this person from what he's doing.  Getting back on track, I think Yogi's idea is excellent. Teach them to feed each other balls, and show them the basics on the techniques one by one. You can do more advanced techniques with the better players, but even the lower level players can feed them balls. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
AgentHEX wrote:Posted By: IllSonny
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 10:06am
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@PPP: 7 tables @AgentHex: I try to but most higher level people don't coach for free these days. This club is free and I enjoy coaching so I do it for free also(wouldn't make sense to have people pay anyway). I think most people will look at my rating and go "wow... He shouldn't coach because he is such low level." but in truth I think that you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach. But I do understand where you are coming from. @everyone else: Thanks for the advice. I'll try the ball feeding thing. Maybe I will post a video of me playing/coaching or something. ------------- Stiga Infinity VPS Legend H3 Galaxy Moon |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 12:48pm
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I hope they are not playing with pre-mades. Your setup or similar is a good start. -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 2:07pm
I was always amazed by that kid in coachtt123's channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c (at first it does not have to be that good of course). the master at 2m20s is such a pro feeder!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c&t=2m20s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c&t=2m20s ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: pingpongpaddy
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 2:29pm
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with 7 tables 20 tables, you can have 12 doing an exercise on 6 tables, and take the remaining eight on to your table, give them one ball each, then show them fh stroke. Then they queue up to play you and you feed them. Each time one misses they pick the ball and they join the back of the queue, while you feed the next. Carry on like this for 20 minutes. Then exchange those players for the ones on the other tables and get them to practice what they have learned. After an hour of this you will have played everybody, and you may be able to group them according to ability and think of things to do. Make sure that when you are playing, you can see all of the other tables, and that when you address pupils or give a demo, that no body stands behind you. This will make it easier to focus the attention of the group. hope this helps ------------- inactive dotec carbokev yin he galaxy 1 p ly FH moristo sp AX MAX bh moristo sp ax max |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 5:18pm
He's asking for advice.
What I said is good advice. Feel free to content otherwise. ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 5:24pm
You don't necessarily need high level, just someone who has good form who will understand its nuances. It's not about the level to coach, it's about learning this sort of basic stuff right the first time so they don't get stuck with poor gimpy habits. If you have a TT club around you, go ask for volunteers; it's probable you'll find a good samaritan or two for this good cause. ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |
Posted By: pingpongpaddy
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 5:52pm
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Just make sure people have fun, and have info ready regarding local clubs if they want to go further. The basic thing to coach as far as you are able is to keep the ball going, and get them to move a bit. At the end, get them all to circle one table with 1 bat at end. you are at other end (or someone you dsignate) feeding. Each player picks up bat plays a shot puts bat down and circles round whole table. Give each participant 2 'lives. When they are down to five players, you step out and the players circle and hit at both ends till 2 are left... Its crazy ------------- inactive dotec carbokev yin he galaxy 1 p ly FH moristo sp AX MAX bh moristo sp ax max |
Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 09/29/2013 at 6:28pm
| Have as many players as you can handle for a table to feed. They form a line, and they have 2 lives to hit forehands. The others can be playing games, team tournament, king of the hill. |