What's Your Hardbat?
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Topic: What's Your Hardbat?
Posted By: frogger
Subject: What's Your Hardbat?
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 2:29pm
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I know some of you guys like to play hardbat once in awhile. so what do you use and why? I love taking a break from fast setups and expensive blades and rubbers. LKT Toxic 3> BTY Orthodox OX> Great Hardbat combo.  Hock 3-Ply Small Head> Yasaka A1-2 ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 2:34pm
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I had my Hock 3-ply shaved to the size of the TBS with Dr Evil. Less flex and great control !! Playing HB tunes up my strokes, love the sound !! -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 2:59pm
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old Stiga premade + Gambler Peacekeeper My inverted play improves after playing hardbat or if I play Johnny Huang style with a Galaxy W6 + SP both sides |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 3:56pm
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I got a toxic 5 + dr evil on both sides to keep in my tt bag at all times. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: Loop40mm
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:09pm
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I just use my old shakehand blades. I put Dr Evil on Juic Maple Shot or Joola Rossi Fire. After playing hardbat, the inverted rubbers feel so much softer. Since the hardbat style is more defensive for me, I feel I see the ball much better or hand eye coordination much better when I switch back to my normal setup. I use shakehand for hardbat and CPen for inverted. Since the strokes are different, there is no adjustment switching from hardbat to CPen inverted looping. ------------- Stiga Ebenholz NCT V FH Tenergy 05 BH DHS Tin Arc 3 |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:14pm
we need to play HB at the Nationals...  ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
fatt wrote:Posted By: tt4me
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:19pm
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I have 3 right now. 1 Toxic 5 with Peacekeeper. This is the one I play with the most and the one in the high speed videos. It is very flexible. 2 LKT Instinct with Dr Evil. The LKT Instinct is noticeably stiffer but generates about the same amount of spin. 3. Toni Hold White Spot with Yasaka A-1-2. The THWS is relatively stiff compared to the Toxic 5 but slow like the Toxic 5. The A-1-2 seems to have just a little more grip than the Peacekeeper and Dr Evil. Peacekeeper seems to generate a little spin reversal that A-1-2 can't especially if I block the ball closer to the handle where there isn't as much flex. Notice that most of us are using slow blades. ------------- Samsonov Alpha+H3 Neo+802 1.5mm, the Ball Whacker is revived!<br />Samsonov Alpha+H3 Neo+802-40 1.8mm my back up<br />BCX5+H3+802-1 1.8mm New but promising.<br /> |
Posted By: kyle90
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:36pm
| valor american chopper with yasaka a1-2 |
Posted By: wturber
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:40pm
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My standard for a long time was the LKT Instinct with Dr. Evil but I wanted something a bit larger since I was chopping more. So I went to using a Butterfly Cutlass for its larger size and slowness and Gambler Peacekeeper because black Dr. Evil got messed up at about the same time. But I could not find another Cutlass blade that matched the speed of my first Cutlass that I like (all were too fast) and they fixed the black Dr. Evil issue. So, I'm currently using a Nittaku Resist with Dr. Evil on both sides. Fairly stiff, but still slow and "soft" due to the use of willow. ------------- Jay Turberville www.jayandwanda.com Hardbat: Nittaku Resist w/ Dr. Evil or Friendship 802-40 OX |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 4:54pm
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I can actually loop away from table with my LKT Toxic 3/ BTY Orthodox OX. More difficult with the Hock/Yasaka A1-2. LKT Toxic seems flexier even though the speed between the two blades is about the same. I tried Dr. Evil and did not like it at all...a bit strange to my taste. I will order a Nittaku Kim Kyung Ah blade with BTY Orthodox. It is getting great reviews so we will see if it makes a good hardbat. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 5:02pm
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Ralph Stadelman didn't like Dr Evil either after I beat him with it at the Nationals. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 5:08pm
Good one.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 5:14pm
My best match at the Nationals was the win against Tim Kelly when he was 2200. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 5:15pm
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I have a question about hardbat gluing: could that be declared illegal in a hb tourney? I would not describe the smudges as bubbles; at some point they kind of were and I hoped they'd go away; the bubbles are gone but there is still a noticeable difference on all the spots.   ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 5:18pm
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@fatt, it s/b ok. I can help you with that if you bring it to Vegas. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: wturber
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 6:26pm
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I think it is unlikely that anyone would give you grief. BTW, I always trim that bottom 3/16" or so off of the bottom of my Dr. Evil before gluing to reduce the area taken up by the pip-less label. ------------- Jay Turberville www.jayandwanda.com Hardbat: Nittaku Resist w/ Dr. Evil or Friendship 802-40 OX |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 7:39pm
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Yasaka A1-2 is the easiest to glue without the bubble effect. BTY Orthodox OX and Dr. Evil takes some careful steps. Also adding a heavy book after gluing for 24 hours helps a lot. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: gnopgnipster
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 8:33pm
 CHEERS!------------- Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/12/2013 at 10:24pm
Valor has some very nice products. They are not widely known that I know of. "American Chopper" looks like a great hardbat. Also there is a super nice offering from OSP in the DEF+ class.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 12:44am
+1 Whats a good hardhat blade for all around play? i think my toxic 3 is too soft to be hitting with... ------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 5:20am
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red dr evil/stiga clipper wood/black dr neubauer terminator ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 6:55am
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Hock 3 ply with Dr
 on both sides, I hit and chop on both sides. I used to play with a $2 Wal-Mart hard bat type up to 1700 vs inverted.
------------- Hntr Fl / 4H & BH Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 Yinhe T-2 / 4H Xiom Sig Pro 2 2.0 BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max Gam DC / 4H DHS Hurricane 8 39deg 2.1 BH GD CC LP OX HARDBAT / Hock 3 ply / Frenshp Dr Evil OX |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 9:09am
You might want to try the LKT Toxic 5. Faster and a bit stiffer. Price is very nice. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 10:50am
Thanx!!! ------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Posted By: gnopgnipster
Date Posted: 11/13/2013 at 5:46pm
CHEERS! ------------- Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
Posted By: bonelawr1959
Date Posted: 11/19/2021 at 3:29pm
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Valor Champion w Valor rubber, eh? I happen to own the first champion made... but then, you knew that. ;-) ------------- Boneman Cape Coma, FL |
Posted By: TwiddleDee
Date Posted: 11/20/2021 at 11:07am
| Hock 3 ply #74 large face with Dr. Evil. |
Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 11/20/2021 at 1:15pm
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At the club where I play now they call it hardbat to play with bare blades. No 0X SP, no nothing, only wood. It's actually quite good fun.
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Posted By: bonelawr1959
Date Posted: 11/21/2021 at 7:00am
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Bare wood blade. How "historical". I actually own a GENUINE "Ping Pong" paddle... "Ping Pong" being a Registered Trademark of Parker Bros. for their table tennis gaming equipment. It is from about 1928 and is solid rock maple plywood. And yes... a blast to play with! ------------- Boneman Cape Coma, FL |