The Way of the Butterflies
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Topic: The Way of the Butterflies
Posted By: Timo1978
Subject: The Way of the Butterflies
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 10:46am
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Hi everybody, after a 15-years-break i restarted playing table-tennis two years ago. Since that time i have always been looking for my "best-fiting" personal equipment and was testing out many blades. Now I finally ended in collecting Butterfly Blades. I am not specified at collecting a single handle type or only collect just blades in unused or mint condition. My collection is by far not the biggest if i take a look at some other members here...but... a few blades finally ended up at my home that`s why I want to show some pictures of my woodies and hope you have fun by watching them.... Here a videolink how Butterfly blades are born: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SozRZAxg6vk#t=417 So let`s start with some classic blades....here we go... 1. Butterfly Swedish Style 2. Butterfly Börzsey 3. Butterfly Surbek EC 4. Butterfly Gergely (5ply) 5. Butterfly Stipancic-H 6. Butterfly Surbek Junior 555 7. Butterfly Jonyer-H 8. Butterfly English Style 9. Butterfly Kenny Style 10. Butterfly Firehand-Style 11. Butterfly Pohoralek HS 12. Butterfly Pohoralek CBS 13. Butterfly Secretin (Basswood-Series) 14. Butterfly Phalanx 15. Butterfly Desmond Douglas Pro 16. Butterfly Alan Cooke 17. Butterfly Topspin 18. Butterfly Klampar 19. Butterfly Elegance 20. Butterfly Tempest 21. Butterfly Grandis 22. Butterfly Secretin All 23. Butterfly Klampar-H 24. Butterfly Grubba Pro 25. Butterfly Powerdrive (Old Version) 26. Butterfly Powerdrive 27. Butterfly Kenny Pro 28. Butterfly Firehand (Old Version) 29. Butterfly Firehand (New Version) 30. Butterfly Batorfi All+ 31. Butterfly Powerdrive (Old Font) 32. Butterfly Power-9 33. Butterfly Spinshot 34. Butterfly Perdir 35. Butterfly Euro-5 36. Butterfly Grubba All+ 37. Butterfly Grubba All+ (Japan-Version) 38. Butterfly Grubba All+ (EU-Version) 39. Butterfly Power-7 40. Butterfly Clearfield 41. Butterfly Repiaredo 42. Butterfly Panic 43. Butterfly Coleus Fast 44. Butterfly Madash 45. Butterfly Schlager OFF 46. Butterfly Blaszcyk OFF 47. Butterfly Allways 48. Butterfly Blaszczyk All 49. Butterfly Legout Performance 50. Butterfly Kreanga Carbon (ULC) 51. Butterfly Oh Sang Eun 52. Butterfly Tamropa 53. Butterfly Appelgren 54. Butterfly Kreanga Aeros 55. Butterfly Schlager Inspire 56. Butterfly Korbel Magic Hand 57. Butterfly Kitoh Pro Model 58. Butterfly Morim 59. Butterfly Mazunov FL 60. Butterfly Mazunov AN 61. Butterfly Primorac Off- 62. Butterfly Korbel FL 63. Butterfly Defahre 64. Butterfly Grubba SoftFeel 65. Butterfly Manarsa 66. Butterfly Ranato 67. Butterfly Kong Linghui 68. Butterfly Exalter 69. Butterfly Coleus 70. Butterfly Adolescen 71. Butterfly Adolescen 72. Butterfly Spinart 73. Butterfly Shoare 74. Butterfly Ardes 75. Butterfly Zhang Yining 76. Butterfly SK7 Alpha 77. Butterfly Phalanx II 78. Butterfly Cresail 79. Butterfly Compara 80. Butterfly Powersmash 81. Butterfly Hinoki Shake Swift 82. Butterfly Chen Cjien-An (LE) 83. Butterfly Chuang Chi-Yuan 84. Butterfly Kreanga Powerspin 85. Butterfly Schlager Prscision 86. Butterfly Hinoki Shake Speedy 87. Butterfly Kiso Hinoki VII 88. Butterfly Senkoh90 89. Butterfly Steger 90. Butterfly Korbel (AN) 91. Butterfly Grubba Pro (EU-Version) 92. Butterfly Ayazo Umemura 93. Butterfly Mitamura Pro Model 94. Butterfly Hermoso Light 95. Butterfly Pulser (Allwood) 96. Butterfly Keyshot ST 97. Butterfly Moonbeam ST 98. Butterfly Pulser 99. Butterfly Biside FL 100. Butterfly Viscaria ST 101. Butterfly Viscaria FL 102. Butterfly Retriever ST 103. Butterfly Timo Boll Spark ST 104. Butterfly Keyshot Light ST 105. Butterfly Iolite ST 106. Butterfly Iolite FL 107. Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit 108. Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit (Former Personal Blade of Timo Boll) 109. Butterfly Michael Maze ALC FL/AN 110. Butterfly Kong Linghui Special ST 111. Butterfly Cofferlait FL 112. Butterfly Allure Tamca 5000 ST 113. Butterfly Scorna Tamca 5000 FL 114. Butterfly Kumpuru Tamca 5000 FL 115. Butterfly Sardius Tamca 5000 FL 1. Butterfly Swedish Style Weight: 96 Gramms Sized: 16,1/15,5cm Not a light blade, regarding its age it is not really a "slow" blade   2. Butterfly Börzsey Weight: 92 Gramms Sized: 16,0/15,4cm 5-ply-hinoki-wood. I think it was made in the year 1975.   3. Butterfly Surbek (European Champion) Weight: 101 Gramms Sized:15,9/14,7cm This Blade is a Tribute to the famous Yugoslavian Player Dragutin Surbek (The Worker) who was very successful in doubles together with his partner Anton Stipancic (The Genius), both teamed up successfully at doubles in 1979 in Pjöngjang and won the title. Surbek was a real "Training Animal" he broke in the Training hall several times at night to Train and went really mad if he was not able to play tt every day....    4. Butterfly Gergely Weight: 101 Gramms Sized:15,9/14,7cm 5-ply-wood with straightened and flatened Lense  5. Butterfly Stipancic-H Weight: 99 Gramms Sized: 16,0/15,1cm 5-ply-wood, not a slow one  Unlike Surbek Stipancic did not like to train very much....but he had a good excuse for it....he was looking for the female Players   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 11:34am
wow. very cool staff  |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 11:36am
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Endlich, es wurde aber auch Zeit There will follow some really nice ones, I am sure! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51887&title=feedbk-4-dean" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61374&title=some-of-my-blades" rel="nofollow - Blades |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 12:24pm
Thank you. I really like your collection, too. It´s fantastic and really amazing. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
TKMP wrote:Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 12:26pm
Ja, Du hast Recht, es hat lange gedauert aber man braucht auch Zeit dazu und ja, es werden noch ein paar nette Hölzer folgen ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 1:42pm
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Timo, We will all be speachless
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Posted By: pepemol
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 5:15pm
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Posted By: Dr.Teatime
Date Posted: 01/04/2014 at 11:30pm
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the gergley was the first blade I ever bought, when i was very young! if you ever decide to sell it.... please let me know. i would buy it just for nostalgia. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 6:00am
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pls keep sharing your blades :) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 8:03am
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Awesome collection! is there a reason the swedish style's grip is they way it is?------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 11:57am
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6. Butterfly Surbek Junior 555 Weight: 103 Gramms Sized: 16,6/15,5cm Another Classic Surbek Blade The Blade came to me this summer... I want to say thank you again..  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 11:59am
Thanks for watching, do not worry, you will be able to watch more pics  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 12:08pm
I do not really know for sure but i think the holes were made to reduce the weight of the handle and could have also been a reason for reducing sweat. Maybe the blade was also lacking weight to the blades head, this could have also been a reason for the amazing style of the handle. Stigas "Ehrlich" handle seems to be very similar to the Swedish Style. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 12:48pm
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7. Butterfly Jonyer-H Weight: 96 Gramms Sized: 16,3/15,4cm Model Name is refering to Hungarian Player István Jonyer, Worldchampion in 1975 in Calcutta. He was also very sucessful in doubles with Tibor Klampár and Gábor Gergely. In the 1970ies the Hungarian Team had such great Players, most of them were using the classic Butterfly rubber Sriver D12 and a strange glue smell was wobbering through the air coming out from the changing rooms of the hungarian players....... The Srivers were also attached when i received this blade, it was very hard to get them off after being glued on the old blades for a few decades...   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 1:39pm
Michael, I will try my best not to disappoint you you. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 1:54pm
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The feel of the old Jonyer-H FL was incredible. Sadly mine was broken decades ago. A great blade in every sense.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/05/2014 at 5:21pm
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8. Butterfly English Style Weight: 95 Gramms Sized: 17,3/15,3cm with old (german/latin/Roman) font and nailed metal tag. If you look at the dimension of the blade, the 95 gramms are still acceptable. Similar to the Butterfly New Leather.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/06/2014 at 11:16am
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Since we reached the "Style" Blades we can go on.... 9. Butterfly Kenny Style Weight:88 Gramms Sized:15,7/15,2cm 5-Ply-basswood A real classic blade. For todays play it is slow, but it has much control. The handle sealing causes much sweat. I think it is the reason why many handles of the kenny style blades lost the Color over the years and the prints have left   10. Butterfly Firehand Style Weight:87 Gramms Sized:16,0/15,4cm the blade is from the mid-1970ies, 5ply-all-wood with hinoki on top, This blade is a little bit faster than the Kenny, i think speed rating should be off-, very good for topspin Play  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 6:05am
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11. Butterfly Phoralek HS Weight:86 Gramms Sized:16,5/15,4cm This 5-ply-wood is based on the same blade construction than the Jonyer-H. Erich Pohoralek from Suisse gave order to Butterfly to produce these blades to compete against the Stiga Alser since other models like Secretin/Kenny Style were made with basswood and the handle of Jonyer-H was very small.. So the blades head of the Pohoralek HS (Hinoki-Shake) was also modified and the handle got bigger. Blade speed is OFF-  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/07/2014 at 3:46pm
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/09/2014 at 2:47am
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12. Butterfly Pohoralek CBS
Weight:77 Sized:16,4/15,5cm
5-ply-wood
The second model from the series Pohoralek ordered at Butterfly.
Despite the blade size a very light blade with much control.
Compared to the HS, the CBS is the slower blade, specially designed for allround play.
Many Players still use it today for defensive play, the CBS has still enough offensive potential.
In combination with OX-rubbers long pips underspin goes very well, especially from the half distance it is very easy to cut down the arriving topspins....
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 3:41am
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13. Butterfly Secretin Weight:80Gramms Sized:15,8/15,3cm Another classic allround blade with 5-ply-basswood veneers. Jaques Secretin won the European title 1976 in Prague with his defensive playing style. At the world championships he was not very sucessfull, best result was reaching the quaterfinal in singles 1973 in Sarajevo. Later he was doing some nice tt-shows in Europe with his partner Vincent Purkart... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUI9cyvKPGM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUI9cyvKPGM  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 7:06am
 Butterfly First Logo 1960ies (Oriental Style)  Butterfly European Logo 1971-1991 (European/Latin/Roman/German Font)  Butterfly Logo 1991-1997  Butterfly Logo 1997 - 2014 ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 8:15am
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14. Butterfly Phalanx Weight: 87 Gramms Sized:15,9/15,0cm with old metal tag and no font on blades head This Butterfly model got famous since one of the best Allround players Andrej Grubba was using it a very long time. Fast and Light for sharp swings, which adds more power. Ranked in the midfield of the blade speed range it was much faster than Elegance, Agnes Simon,Surbek, Topspin or Kucharski model. Faster models in general were the first Tamca5000 models and only a few blades with 5-ply-hinocki veneers... The Phalanx is said to be the ancestor of the Grubba Allround, Grubba Pro and Grubba Variant 5-ply-woods that were introduced to the market when the first Phalanx got slowly discontinued but i am not sure since Phalanx and Grubba series had different speed and were sold at the same time. Here the Version from 1986 with the white-brownish divided handle, later Version had the full Brown handles.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 9:07am
Thank you, thank you Timo, wonderful collection and pictures. Do you have a Cypress-P? I owned Cypress-X and Cypress-P. Also Secretin and Panic. I wish I would have kept those blades.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 9:23am
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nice, you can be a mini-butterfly museum hehehe ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 9:30am
Thanks for watching frogger. Unfortunatly Cypress-X, Cypress-P and old Panic are lacking at my collection.
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Posted By: Antuan
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 11:39am
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Did the Phalanx exist wit letters on surface? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59801&title" rel="nofollow - My Collection http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59550&title" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 01/10/2014 at 12:48pm
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wow, awesome collection!!! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/11/2014 at 5:55pm
If i look at the condition of the top veneer of my Phalanx i would say that ít never had a print and i never saw any Picture of a Phalanx that had font on the head as well. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/11/2014 at 5:57pm
Thank you. I am glad you like it. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/15/2014 at 5:26am
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15. Butterfly Desmond Douglas Pro Weight: 83 Gramms Sized: 16,0/14,8cm Another blast from the past. 5-ply-wood. Des Douglas and Alan Cook had a 170 turn rally within one minute at Britisch Championships 1986 in Newcastle. I think this record is still valid.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/15/2014 at 5:59am
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Time to move a little bit forward... Since we just had the Des Douglas we should not forget the other player... 16. Butterfly Alan Cooke Weight: 92 Gramms Sized: 15,3/14,8cm With old metal tag and old font on the straightened and flatened lense it must have been produced in end of 1991/beginn of 1992 when using the Roman font in production was slowly stopped due to being replaced by the new font. The old font print on blades head was replaced very fast but the old font lenses were still used in production until the stocks were exhausted. I think this blade is one of the best looking ones Butterfly has ever produced regarding its style and color selection. Cooke was 6 times British champion, best international result was reaching the round of the last 16 at the World Championships 1987 in New Delhi.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 9:33am
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17. Butterfly Topspin Weight: 77 Gramms Sized: 16,2/15,3cm "Light and Soft ball feeling for Topspin Players" The Topspin is regular sized and a little bit faster than Butterfly Tarles. Produced in the 1980ies with old tag and red sticker.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 2:01pm
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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 2:16pm
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tarles had a varnished conical handle :)
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 2:23pm
@ in2spin: Yes, you are right. Tarles = CO and FL @ kolevtt: Yes, you caught me, i was wrong ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 3:13pm
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Tarles!! OMG your killing me dude. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/16/2014 at 4:18pm
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18. Butterfly Klampar Weight:68 Gramms Sized: 16,5/15,5cm Came with old tag and was available in AN/FL/ST and CO handle. The top ply of the Klampar is very sensitive, not a good blade for Klampars Invention of fresh-glueing The Blade is not stiff but has soft reaction to supply Topspins. The head is larger than the standard bat and yet lighter. Klampar was a real rebel, he got banned several times by the hungarian association for leaving the Players camp without permission when he was visiting the western european countries due to tournaments....  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: DrBacterius
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 1:13pm
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Wow! Really incredible blades and collection. I'm really, really in love with your Jonyer H and Pholarek HS...  Congratulations! ------------- OSP Virtuoso T8O Max / Ventus Spin 1.8 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65875&title=feedback-drbacterius" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 1:26pm
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it is a very fantastic collection maybe different in europe? but i thought the firehand had a dark wooden handle with a silver name badge with black lettering? the one pictured here was black lacquered like the kenny model also, anybody remember the slower version gergely racket with the three grooves on one side of the handle? :)
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 4:01pm
Thanks Doc. For sure i am watching "More than debts", too...You also are owning some really, really nice ones. Congrats to you as well ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 4:33pm
There is a "Firehand Style" and two Versions of "Firehand".... One of These was only made for US market.. Maybe you will see them soon... Gergely if i remember right there was one with metallic sign on top of the handle, the oldest one, the one from my post, both were without Carbon, the Gergely Tamca5000er without font on head and lager head (1. Version) Gergely Tamca 5000er Modell with Font on blades head, the Gergely 21 and the Gergely Alpha...  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 5:16pm
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as i recall, the only gergely racket i knew of, before the carbon etc. was like medium speed....probably 5 ply, possibly off- and had a flared handle that was thin - and it had 3 grooves lengthwise up the entire length of the handle :)
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/17/2014 at 6:30pm
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19. Butterfly Elegance Weight: 79 Gramms Sized: 15,4/15,0cm With old font on blades head and (lost)old metal tag, straightened and flatened lense. Blades from the Elegance Series (Dvoracek, Agnes Simon and Dr Simon and Kucharski) were the lightest blades in the Butterfyll range, the blades heads were little smaller than the regular ones. Speed was even slower than the "Basswood" Series. Made for allround players supplying the best control.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/18/2014 at 9:57am
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20. Butterfly Tempest Weight: 80 Gramms Sized: 15,5/15,1cm Allround Blade from the 1980ies with red sticker, produced only with AN and FL handle. The Tempest was officially sold in EU at 18€/25$. That were really nice prices in the past...  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/20/2014 at 8:23am
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21. Butterfly Grandis Weight: 74 Gramms Sized: 15,5/15,1cm Rare Allround Blade from the eighties with old font and old metal tag. Grandis belongs to the allround range like the later Grubba All+ model. Priced at 20€/27$ when officially sold in EU. Again an example for nice prices in the past. Blade was only available with AN and FL handle  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/20/2014 at 8:47am
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22. Butterfly Secretin All Weight: 95 Gramms Sized: 15,3/15,1cm Another Blade from the Allround series. With old font, straightened and flatened lense, without black tag and sticker. Very heavy allround blade, an allround wood of medium price for topspin and counter-attack. Sales price was at 18€/25$  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/21/2014 at 2:50pm
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23. Butterfly Klampar-H Weight: 75Gramms Sized: 15,9/14,8cm Another blade with old font on blades head and flatened and straightened lense and old metal tag. The hinocki veneers give an excellent touch and are providing a great Feeling. A very good blade for two winged topspin play...still used by many players today. Regarding Klampar I remember many funny stories about him: Once he wanted not to Train since he prefered to visit his girlfriend. When he asked Bercik if he was okay with his leaving he was not allowed. Klampar got really angry and broke his blade. Then he was claiming he had nothing to play with now. Berzcik told him he was right, but he gets a punishment and has to run 5 times around the stadium...Klampar did..later Berzcic found his car with deflated tires and every window was covered with thick layers of pastries...Berzcik went real mad when he saw it....  Another one is about a tournament a british collector had brought a stiga ehrlich blade for exposition.. Klampar saw it and felt in love with the Stiga...he offered much money to the collector and highered the amount two times but his offers were all rejected...the collecter did not want to sell the blade, not even to Klampar. Late at night the security got an intruder alert from the hall were the blade was exposed...they found Klampar holding the Stiga Ehrlich already in his hands...  It seems Klampar was a person that did not really accept a "no", a real enfant terrible...   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/24/2014 at 6:34am
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24. Butterfly Grubba Pro Weight: 84 Gramms Sized: 16,7/15,6 Comes with old font and straightened and flatened lense and black tag. Blade was made at the time of the font shift end of 1991/beginn of 1992. This blade is said to be the replacement model for the discontinued Phalanx. Grubba was one of the best allround Players ever, unfortunatly he was playing at the era of Waldner and Appelgren so he once said he will not be remembered much since he always reaching the third or fourth places like 1989 in Dortmund, his biggest international sucess reaching the semi-finals there. Grubba was a very popular Player since his playing skills delighted the crowds. He was famous for switching the playing Hand during the points, later he joined the table Tennis Show of Secretin. Since he died very young the table tennis training camp in Danzig was named to honor him after his death..   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/26/2014 at 10:54am
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25. Butterfly Powerdrive (Old Version) Weight: 96 Gramms Sized: 15,9/15,3cm Here a really nice Butterfly Powerdrive first version model, produced in 1987/1988. Comes with old tag and without lense. For todays play it is a little too slow, regarding its Speed i would add it to the allround section.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/26/2014 at 1:00pm
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BTY Power Drive was the blade for many north American players in the 70's and 80's. Heavy, fast and big sweet spot. I disagree it would be Allround by todays standard. It is fast to very fast with tensors. Juic Nebula is almost a twin to Power Drive for those that can't find original Power Drive. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 01/26/2014 at 1:48pm
| This particular version of the power drive is my main blade and the speed is definitely off- to off. It has a unique feel, It's very stiff but soft due to the hinoki outerplies. |
Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 01/27/2014 at 12:54am
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Impressed every time to see your collection. |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/27/2014 at 3:06am
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26. Butterfly Powerdrive Here the little newer version of the old Butterfly Powerdrive. The blade has straightened and flatened lense and old tag, but already new font on blades head. The handle has been sanded for comfortable thumb Position. Butterfly did this with a few models, later they stopped it. I think it was made around 1992-1994. Compared with the older Version this Powerdrive is a little bit faster and straighter, they were sold at 25€/33$  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 01/27/2014 at 1:39pm
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i had this blade - interesting is that is a right hand predominant blade since the cut/indention at the top of the handle would be for a right hander's thumb i guess a left hander could use it - with the logo on the bh side
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 5:23am
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27. Butterfly Kenny Pro Weight: 92 Gramms Sized: 16,0/15,2cm Here a nice Kenny Pro ST with flatened and straightened lense, no serial, no old tag, with new font on blades head. I already saw ones with old font on head and lense, so i guess it was made in the late eighties and still produced until the mid-nineties. A slow 5-ply blade with lots of control and basswood outer plies and medium soft feel. Probably the follower of the Kenny Style...I think it is best suited for counter play.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/29/2014 at 5:30am
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28. Butterfly Firehand Comes with straightened and flatened lense and old metal tag, with old font on blades head and thumb sanding. A very rare blade and hard to get especially with ST handle, compared with the Primo Off- the Firehand is thinner and more elastic so it is better suited for topspin play than the Primo. This version of the Firehand must have been produced in the late 1980ies....Still very popular among the german Players.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 8:26am
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29. Butterfly Firehand (New Version) It has neither silver nor old tag. Here the follower of the old Firehand. Surprisingly it was rated OFF+, and was made for the US Market. This version has nothing in common with its famous ancestor that was really an excellent blade. A 5-ply-wood with limba outer plies and ayous inner plies and super core system (carbon). The Blade was one of the fastest blades at the butterfly range end of the 1990ies.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/01/2014 at 4:51pm
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30. Butterfly Batorfi Weight: 79Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,4cm Here the allround version, the Batorfi Intellect Dohjo All+, 5-ply-wood, produced for the hungarian player Csilla Batorfi that won several European Championship titles. Later she became head coach of the italian national Team. There was another version published which is faster, rated OFF-. I think the Batorfi-blades were produced in 1989, at least that year is stated at their lenses. There were not many pieces made, it must have been a tiny series...  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Antuan
Date Posted: 02/01/2014 at 5:58pm
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Was Csilla Batorfi Zoltan Batorfi's sister? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59801&title" rel="nofollow - My Collection http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59550&title" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/01/2014 at 6:25pm
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Yes, i think so. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/02/2014 at 9:26am
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31. Butterfly Powerdrive (Old Font on Head) Weight: 94 Gramms Sized: 15,6/14,9cm Again a Powerdrive, coming here with old font on blades head, must have been made before the end of 1991. With old tag and straightened and flatened lense. Blade composition should be: Hinoki/Rosewood/Abachi/Rosewood/Hinoki Available in ST, FL and AN.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/02/2014 at 10:10am
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32. Butterfly Power-9 Weight: 87 Gramms Sized:15,3/14,9cm With old font on straightened and flatened lense and blades head, no serial and without old tag. If the Power7 is lacking power for your play, try the Power9. Its blade dimensions are small, but with standart butterfly size i guess the Power9 would have been become too heavy. Not only Stiga was able to produce nice 9-ply-woods in the past... The Power-9 was only produced with FL Handle. I think it was made with 5 plies Abachi, 2 plies Limba and 2 plies of Rosewood. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 02/02/2014 at 1:27pm
This one is really nice and I didn't know it
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/03/2014 at 4:49am
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33. Butterfly Spinshot Weight: 83 Gramms Sized: 15,5/14,9cm One of the best 5-ply-wood ever made for topspin play the Spinshot is still very popular and famous among the German Players. Composition should be: Limba-Abachi-Limba-Abachi-Limba. It is a pity that this model was discontinued without a follower-model to replace it  .This one has straightened and flatended lense and no black tag. I do not think the Spinshots ever had the old tags attached. Other pieces of the Spinshot i saw until today had the new font printed on the head.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 3:46am
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34. Butterfly Perdir A 5-ply-wood, i think it is made of Hinoki, coming with old metal tag and no font on lense. The Perdir is relativly unknown, i do not think it was very sucessful in sales since there are not many informations about the Perdir available. I guess the history of it has been forgotten... Maybe some members still remember the Perdir and are able to say something about it ...   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 4:22am
You know, perdir in Spanish means "to lose." ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 4:59am
Maybe the blade is not very popular because many Players that used it as their main blade lost their matches? I already knew that old post at mytt about it, but does not help much regarding the history of that model. In French "to lose" is "perdre" also similar to Spanish since bot languages have latin origin. I once asked Butterfly Central in Europe about the Perdir, but they also "lost" their knowledge about it ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/11/2014 at 6:03am
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35. Butterfly Euro-5 The considered ancestor of the Primorac Powerfeeling although the Powerfeeling is a hard 7 ply-wood. With old font on straightened and flatened lense, without black tag and serial number. Probably it has been produced around 1992....   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Antuan
Date Posted: 02/11/2014 at 7:39am
No my friend, "to lose" in Spanish is PERDER 😁. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59801&title" rel="nofollow - My Collection http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59550&title" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/12/2014 at 5:08am
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36. Grubba All+ Weight: 96 Gramms Sized: 15,3/15,0cm Here an old Version of the Grubba All+ with straightened and flatened old font lense, black tag and new font on handle. It was produced in 05/1992. The Grubba All+ is one of the most sold blades in the allround section, with much control and soft Feeling the blade was often recommanded for beginners with Sriver Rubbers. It is not fast, but is providing very much control. When I was a kid the Grubba All+ was the first blade i ever had and was released at about the same time the Nittaku Magic OFF/Solution blades were also introduced.. If i remember right there were a lots of good Players in Europe in These years like Waldner, Persson, Saive, Gatien, Roßkopf, Primorac and of course Grubba.. The blade was not in a good shape when i bought it, but it was very good repaired in the south-west Region of Germany . Many Thanks again for the really fantastic work....  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/12/2014 at 5:18am
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37. Grubba All+ (Japan-Version) Weight: 88 Gramms/Sized: 15,7/15,3cm The Japan-Version with ST-handle and straightened lense, no tag and new font   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/12/2014 at 5:23am
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38. Butterfly Grubba All+ (EU) Weight: 77 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,3cm Here the EU Version. Compared with the old Versions the EU Version is very light. The used colors have changed, too....If you use the old one and the EU-Version there is a huge difference   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/22/2014 at 5:39am
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39. Butterfly Power-7 Weight: 88 Gramms Sized: 15,3/15,1cm 7-ply-wood, with old tag. A very good blade for fast and hard strokes, quick topspin and counter attacks. Rated as Off+ it is a very hard and stiff blade but is still providing a good control and Feeling. Older Versions had the old font on blades head and straightened and flatened lense. Only produced with FL handle. Later i was able to catch the old font Version as well.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/22/2014 at 5:55am
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40. Butterfly Clearfield Weight: 92 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,2cm a 7-ply-woodwith Koto Outers coming with old tag was released in 1992. The Clearfield is a very stiff blade and hard blade. Chen Jing that won the Olympic Games 1988 in Seoul was using the Clearfield for close to the table Play. Later she was joining Lübeck to Play in the German League. I do not think it is a good blade for loopers, but very good Players seem to be able to handle the Clearfield even for Looping...for most Players it is just a good blade for playing strokes with short pips... Blade Composition is: Koto-Koto-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Koto-Koto   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/22/2014 at 6:05am
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41. Butterfly Repiaredo Weight: 89 Gramms Sized: 15,9/15,3cm 5-ply-wood with old tag. The Repiaredo is rated OFF- and is providing a soft feeling,a good blade for loopers that need much control. To me the design is one of the nicest ones Butterfly ever released. In Germany the blade was never really available so not many players were or are still using it.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/22/2014 at 6:31am
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42. Butterfly Panic Weight: 92 Gramms Sized: 15,6/14,8cm Here the follower of the 1970ies Butterfly Panic Model member Magic-M was sharing at a former post. A 5-ply-wood produced for allround play providing soft feeling and much control, perfect for playing modern defence with inverted and pimples out Rubbers. The Print on head says "light weighted" but i doubt that a 92 gramms blade can be called light...  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 02/22/2014 at 6:40am
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43. Coleus Fast Weight: 86 Gramms Sized: 15,5/14,5 cm 5-ply-wood, rated Off with old tag. Here the faster version of the Butterfly Coleus. A light but stiff blade. In Germany very rare, i think it has not been sold in Europe, maybe it was more sucessfull in Asia or the States.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/02/2014 at 8:49am
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44. Butterfly Madash Weight: 86 Gramms Sized: 15,7/14,9cm with straightened and flatened lense and old tag Madash is a 5-ply-allwood, rated OFF and providing medium feel. Bai Yang was using it as main blade in the past, a great blade for Looping from half-distance. Blade Composition should be: Planchonello-Walnut-Balsa-Walnut-Planchonello Schlager used the Madash when he captured the 1996 US Open Doubles Championship. I first read it has been released in the early 2000, but i guess it is much older due to the straightened lense. Refering to an old Asian catalogue i think it was made in the 1990ies, due to the new font on head after 1991 and mainly made with FL-handle, priced at 5000 Yen like the Adolescen..but I know there were only a few ST handles made... Update: Now i am completly sure Madash has been released in 1993.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: pepemol
Date Posted: 03/04/2014 at 5:41pm
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Hi Timo: Great Collection,,,,,,, Not that I like more,,,,,,,, and I hope the next delivery regards |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 3:53am
Thanx Pepemol. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 4:31am
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45. Butterfly Schlager OFF Weight: 86 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm Here the Schlager OFF model from the EU-Series in 1996, 5-ply-All Wood with nice koto outer ply and no tag or Stickers. Rated at OFF, available handles were ST, AN, FL and FS (Mix of FL and ST). This EU Series also included the models of Kreanga, Struse, Keen and Blasczcyk. Priced at 27€/35 USD.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 4:39am
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46. Butterfly Blaszcyk Here the model with the FS-Handle.   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 1:19pm
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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 1:42pm
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Awesome collection, Timo. Thanks for sharing all these photos.
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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 1:44pm
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that last schlager was available with a unidirectional handle? never really caught on, eh? :)
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 2:06pm
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47. Butterfly Allways Weight: 82 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm with New Logo Butterfly Sticker After Blaszcyk left Butterfly and went to Tibhar Butterfly decided to change the Name of his model. So the Allways was Born... Strange, since the Allways is rated ALL and not Off but has the same handle like the Struse series and less thickness    ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 2:18pm
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48. Butterfly Blaszczcyk (All) Weight: 80 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm The Allround model here with old tag, but not Made in Japan. Regarding the complete design and the Chosen colors Butterfly created a very good looking blade. Maybe I am wrong but I think for the Allways model Butterfly took the handle design of the Struse series and combined it with the veneer composition of this model to create a Kind of follower model....     ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 2:30pm
Thanks Pondus. I am doing the best i can ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 2:35pm
The FS Handle was not really a cash-cow, you are right. For my personal taste conical handle would have been much better ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/05/2014 at 3:18pm
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49. Butterfly Legout Performance Weight: 99 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm Another blade with FS-Handle, a 5-ply-wood rated Off with medium feel and silver tag. Good blade for mid-distance...The Legout Performance was released in the year 2000, priced at 30€ and was also available withFL, AN and ST handle. Blade composition should be Limba-Abachi-Abachi-Abachi-Limba  
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/09/2014 at 2:19pm
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50. Butterfly Kreanga ULC Weight: 87 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm Since we reached number 50 already a blade that needs not many explanations. Here the unused AN Version with Silver Tag. Fast and Deadly, like Kreangas backhand  It is better not to show the ref the blade without attached rubbers Blade Composition should be: Hinocki-Unaxial Light Carbon-Kiri-Unaxial Light Carbon-Hinocki Priced at 129€ the blade was available with ST, FL and like here with AN handle. With the development of the new produced Carbon (ULC) Butterfly was able to reduce 18% of the carbon weight by not using crossed carbon fibers that were aligned in every direction. Butterfly claimed that the ULC fiber also would rise the general feeling of the blade. Compared with the Primorac Carbon it was suited better for half distance play. The metallic sealing was made to alleviate the change of the attached rubbers. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/13/2014 at 5:00pm
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51. Butterfly Oh Sang Eun Weight 86 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,1cm here the FL Version with silver tag. Good 5-ply-wood for close to the table block and counter play, also fine at half distance. Blade composition is Koto-Koto-Ayous-Koto-Koto Very stiff blade with less vibrations it is one of the best blades ever made for blocking. The Oh Sang Eun provides a medium feel, faster than a Primo Off- and slower than a Korbel i would rate it OFF- to OFF. Generating a medium to low throw. A Teammate is using it as his main blade for modern defensive play, chopping on backside and dropping deadly shots with it on the forehand....a reason that i should not like it too much   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 3:31pm
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How much is Butterfly Desmond Douglas Pro ST worth$ ------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 7:22pm
Wrong--- pedir it means to ask for. "Perder" means To lose. Butterfly lapuhta means butterfly the whore. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/20/2014 at 8:01am
Sorry, please understand that i do not want to discuss prices in public in general. There are too many factors like Condition, Location, Shipping Costs and Custom Situation that have influence on market and asking prices... ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/20/2014 at 9:42am
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52. Butterfly Tamropa Weight: 82 Gramms Sized: 16,0/15,2cm A 5-ply-allwood rated OFF with old metal tag. Average Thickness 5,4mm with Limba Outer Plies. Regarding the blade dimensions the Tamropa is very light. Refering to the blade print it should be a light blade for beginners. I have tested it with several Rubbers like Sriver L, Bluefire, Calibra Tour M and Tenergy 05 and would not recommand it for beginners since it is not a slow blade at all and has a strange bounce, blocking either active or passive i found very difficult to handle. Perhaps the perfect allwood blade for offensive Play if you choose the right Rubbers.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 7:31am
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53. Butterfly Appelgren Weight: 86 Gramms Sized: 16,6/15,8cm Old 5-ply-wood from the eighties with red sticker. Although the blade dimensions are huge the weight is not too heavy. Appelgren was a really good Player but he was not very lucky since he was playing at the same period with Waldner and Persson when these were celebrating their greatest international victories. Appelgren has always been in the shadow of the other Swedish Topstars and did not have a real chance to win the world Championship title. Teaming up with Waldner and Persson Sweden had the strongest Team in Europe in these days.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 8:57am
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54. Kreanga Aeros Weight: 93 Gramms Sized: 15,7/15,2 cm here the FL-Version with stainless steel bracket. Released in 2004 the Kreanga Aeros has 2 Glasfiber layers and 5 Wood layers. Now 10 years old the Aeros is already a kind of Youngtimer. A very fast and stiff blade for close to the table and counter-loopers. The Aeros is little slower than the Primorac Carbon and was available with ST,FL and AN handle priced at 60€. The first blade Butterfly ever has produced by using Glasfiber which is providing similar hardness compared with Carbon but having better feeling and a softer touch. Butterfly was claiming that the new steel bracket was not only made as a new design Feature the bracket should also prevent losing the tag...   ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |