Where are you ordering your Butterfly stuff from?
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Topic: Where are you ordering your Butterfly stuff from?
Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Subject: Where are you ordering your Butterfly stuff from?
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 9:28am
| With TT Japan gone and LoveTT missing, where are you ordering your Butterfly blades and rubbers from? |
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 9:47am
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I'm not. And even if I was, I would think that it would be a bad idea to publically broadcast the names of any webshops who were prepared to break through the Butterfly blockade. So, if anyone has a nice source, perhaps send via PM to the OP. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: tt4me
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 10:47am
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When I do I order it from the Paddle Palace. I have tried to cut back but T05 really isn't such a bad deal if you consider that T05 lasts a long time. ------------- Samsonov Alpha+H3 Neo+802 1.5mm, the Ball Whacker is revived!<br />Samsonov Alpha+H3 Neo+802-40 1.8mm my back up<br />BCX5+H3+802-1 1.8mm New but promising.<br /> |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 10:58am
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I use Megaspin because of great customer service and very fast delivery. When I specify a weight, they generally find me one in the range and if it doesn't exist they tell me. They mail the same day they get the order. Once when a blade arrived badly damaged, they sent me another one, no questions asked. Their prices are the same as everyone else in US but I am quite loyal to them now. Like everyone else these days, some popular blades will be back ordered. |
Posted By: figgie
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 11:32am
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If you know... hush up. It was in no part thanks to posts here and else where and the US butterfly crying a river that they put those rules in effect. Assume all companies are on board and if you get lucky... keep it to yourself!! ------------- Speed glue, booster, tuner free since 2006!!! |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 1:24pm
| The problem is still that many butterfly blades are out of stock in all US sites. |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 1:45pm
| tabletennisstore.us, awesome customer service. |
Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 4:15pm
| I do not understand what this means. Can somebody please explain? Thanks, Is there a plot against Butterfly?? |
Posted By: figgie
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 4:40pm
Against? No. Bty made it known that they were not happy with the globalization and how people in Country X where buying the same item from Country ZZ for less. This was no thanks in part to BTY of country X complaining about people going else where... fast forward to today and there you have it. no plot except the one created by BTY themselves. ------------- Speed glue, booster, tuner free since 2006!!! |
bschap wrote:Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 4:54pm
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Butterfly is promoting local stores to sell low quality and fake butterfly , they did not take the burden of finding why people are buying from tt-japan , instead of working hard and finding the reasons and try to solve it, instead they shut it down. What a shame . ------------- Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 5:34pm
| sorry guys, I guess I am being dense but I still don't understand. |
Posted By: chituan
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 5:56pm
Does it ship outside the US ?
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Posted By: GMan4911
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 6:13pm
Butterfly dealers presumably have a sales territory that they can only sell to but it was not strictly enforced. Apparently, enough Butterfly dealers have complained to Butterfly corporate about TT-Japan poaching their customers that Butterfly corporate has decided to enforce the territory restrictions. It's still unclear as to why other Butterfly dealers can't compete price-wise with TT-Japan. Maybe they can but are unwilling due to greed? ------------- OSP Ultimate II, FH/ITC Powercell Ultra 48 Max BH/ITC Powercell Ultra 48 Max ITC Challenge Speed, FH/ITC Powercell Ultra 48 Max BH/Powercell Ultra 48 Max |
Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 6:16pm
| That is interesting. Usually "authorized dealers" have specific prices they must sell the goods at. So TTJapan either was not an authorized dealer or Butterfly was letting them sell at a lower price. Does anyone know which? |
Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 05/09/2014 at 8:05pm
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Butterfly enforces a Minimum Recommended Selling Price for their equipment in each country. In India, this is INR 4400 ($72) for T05. In Japan this is much lower. No dealer is allowed to sell below this price. |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 1:24am
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For me it´s very simple: if I want to buy the manufacturer MUST sell. If the manufacturer does not want to sell or creates any barrier, I simply go for a product of another manufacturer. It´s valid for clothes, cars, food, anything. I gave up Butterfly products long ago, not because of this restriction, but because of their prices. For me some of their absurd prices was clearly a barrier.
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Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 1:40am
EXACTLY! Mind you my first custom rubber was BTY and i was in love with it. I still kept my first 729 wood from 11-12 years ago Just to have. I said screw them once Tenergy got raised to an absurd price. -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: murraylp2
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 12:36pm
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Anyone know where lovett2011 is and if hell be back? Ive heard that hes meant to be setting up a club in his local area and that hes busy with that but surely that cant have taken this long? Also could be health related as im sure he was gone for a week due to health problems a few years ago? Going to miss him as a great seller and hope this is only temporary
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 1:12pm
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TTNPP.com has Viscaria and OO rubbers in stock if anyone is interested. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Purett
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 1:19pm
they buy the tenrgy for $42 and the price is set by butterfly at $64 thats how it is in the us now some dealer give you a 10 to 15 % break if you negotiate i cant reveal my source but i pay for my tenergy $ 55 ------------- rating solid 1000 moving up to 1001 |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 2:05pm
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And in Japan Tenergy is around 50usd in retail. Too expensive nevertheless. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: murraylp2
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 2:18pm
| Does anywhere in Japan ship to UK though? |
Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 3:12pm
yeah my dealer told me a similar scenario, i get mine for $59 shipped
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Posted By: kajba
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 4:13pm
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In sweden a Tenergy sheeet cost 78$+.. Just buying 2 sheets of those makes you cry though I have never bought any of them. If anyone can pm me where they sell it for cheaper and send to sweden please PM me.
------------- Primary blade: Appelgren Allplat V2 FH: DHS H3 NAT BH: Donic M2 BTY Viscaria FH: DHS H3 NAT BH: Mark V |
Posted By: murraylp2
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 4:22pm
| The is painfull enough but in britain its $85! And tenergy 80 fx is currently $110!!!!!!!!! Although i expect it will go down once it is no longer viewed as being new! |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 5:23pm
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I won´t never buy any Tenergy again unless they set more reasonable prices. In Spain it´s 56.90€ which is close to 80$. That´s insane, considering we´re over 5 millions of unemployed citizens, still too much for an average spanish wallet. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 11:16pm
| In Denmark it's $92 for any of the Tenergy rubbers!!! |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 1:14am
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Beside the Big Mac lndex, the Tenergy Index should be established, too. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 1:49am
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I buying US$55 in our local shop ------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: MonkeyDDragon
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 1:58am
| in your signature it's says your using a Tenergy tho lol... |
Posted By: MonkeyDDragon
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 2:00am
in your signature it says your using a Tenergy tho lol... |
Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 4:38am
------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 4:39am
------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: MonkeyDDragon
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 4:45am
sorry, but i tried to quote jonyer1980 but didn't quite actually work |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 05/11/2014 at 5:15am
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I got my last coupke of tenergies on ta-q.com since it was still reasonable there but i not going to pay more than 40€ for a single sheet of rubber. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: Johnny Erasure
Date Posted: 10/16/2014 at 9:33pm
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How can I order Tenergy rubbers from Japan? In Romania a Tenergy rubber cost around $75, is too much for me. ------------- Blade: JM ZLC Rubbers: FH Dignics 09C BH Dignics 05 Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63937&KW=Johnny+Erasure&PID=764628&title=feedback-for-j |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 10/16/2014 at 11:27pm
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yea that's about how much it is incl. shipping ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: Vlad0
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 2:03am
Hello neighbour. You can't. Here in BG is also too much - 55 euro (1/5 of the monthly sallary). That's why when i worn out my second hand T05s will continue with rasant, O5, MXP - they are not worst. Also TibiKE has great prices. 55 euro |
as much as 1 car tire 
. Let the rich
fool
people play with them thinking the rubber play not their body 
Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 2:32am
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No, no friend Vlado,they are not fool, neither rich.Don't insult people.I am playing with tenergies but I am not fool neither rich.Butterfly has made the rubber that it is the most easy to play with, and it is the most durable rubber till now in the market.Also you cannot find its characteristics to no other rubber.I agree that there are a lot rubbers that can reach the level of the tenergies, but still they don't play as tenergies.I agrre that they are very expensive, so someone who cannot afford it, he can play with other rubbers that satisfy him.Personaly talking, I am playing ith tenergies, not only because they are fitted with my hand and moves but also because they are durable and I am getting 1 pair for almost a year. ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: Vlad0
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 2:42am
Aaa my friend you are much better than us in term of money  . Yes you are right for everything, but 10% better characteristics do not justify double price.
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Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 3:00am
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You can order butterfly equipment from sports shops at http://global.rakuten.com/ These shops are in Japan, are genuine and even with the 8% consumption Tax and Overseas shipping, Tenergy comes out to less than $54 if you order 4 sheets or more. A ZJ SZLC or MJ SZLC costs you around $300 and you can get the desired weight/grip. ..be sure that you order from a well reviewed and high volume seller. |
Posted By: akoozab
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 4:03am
| low cost sheets from Rakuten mostly has domestic shipping |
Posted By: Johnny Erasure
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 4:15am
Thanks a lot but from Rakuten Japan it is in japanese. How do I set English?
------------- Blade: JM ZLC Rubbers: FH Dignics 09C BH Dignics 05 Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63937&KW=Johnny+Erasure&PID=764628&title=feedback-for-j |
Posted By: akoozab
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 4:25am
| http://global.rakuten.com/en/search/?sm=1&p=1&h=3&k=05800 |
Posted By: Vlad0
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 5:50am
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I find it here: http://global.rakuten.com/en/search/?k=%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC+05&h=3&l-id=search_regular" rel="nofollow - http://global.rakuten.com/en/search/?k=%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC+05&h=3&l-id=search_regular |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 6:02am
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Are you sure they're genuine? Seems very cheap indeed! ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: akoozab
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 6:37am
| It is really BTY sheets,but you may have problems with shipping |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 6:58am
| Why are you telling people on an open forum where to buy Butterfly from Japan. You might as well contact Butterfly and tell them. Use private messaging, because of people like you they will probably have to stop selling Butterfly equipment to other countries. Let's hope the moderators remove your post and all associated posts. Next time think about what you are writing. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 7:54am
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Some people just don't get it. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: hithithit
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 9:25am
+1 |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 9:54am
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Artificially inflated prices create a business opportunity. Whenever a shop is taken down as bty distributor in japan for people outide japan, it will be replaced by another one, sucked in by the void; so we will always find a japanese source; yet the work to find the next one can happen less often... When we have a nice source for bty products now that the yen is low and we want to share, we use pm to postpone the next search amap. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 10:18am
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I like gotabletennis.com and paddlepalace. Both have good customer service. Megaspin is ok, but they sent me a "pre-owned" blade a while back, and getting a refund was a difficult process. They work with different Butterfly dealers in the US, and I've had multiple problems with one of them. Butterfly NA made a deal with Butterfly to be the distributor for NA, and they are just enforcing it. My problem is that you can't get every product from Butterfly NA... ST handles, certain blades, etc. Or they sell out of stuff too fast. On the other hand they still manufacture blades for Butterfly NA that you can't get in Japan, such as Photino, M.Maze, etc.  ------------- 
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Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 10:30am
Yes, I agree with you that 10% more characteristics don't justify double price.I don't agree that tenergies are only 10% better than other rubbers.I think that they are more better.But this is personal opinion, because not in every people's hand, plays a rubber the same.  ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: Lestat
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 11:21am
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I don't have a cheap source for Butterfly so I have to stick to the locals. Here in the UK the price is fairly standardised so everybody is selling at the same price but still, they are not all the same to me. I cringe every time I'm forced to place an order with Teessport. They are the main Butterfly distributor in the UK and they've pretty much cornered the market, but that's not enough for them. If you want to order a blade with a specific weight, that's not possible anymore. Apparently, they *do not have* a weighing scale in the office. I find that disgusting. Nowadays I'm ordering all my gear including Butterfly from speedybatsports. I can call at 4pm to have it posted the same day with no fuss. That's what I call accommodating customer service.
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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 11:33am
Are these legit? Megaspin is good but $68/sheet of Tenergy is too much. $55 is reasonable. How much is shipping and VAT to USA? Megaspin usually ships their orders from gotabletennis.com or americantabletennis.com? I got a nice quality TB ALC from the second one. At the same time I ordered a TB ALC from Butterflyonline.com and did not like the quality and finish at all, plus the box came in damaged. Returned it no question asked and they even refunded me return shipping. ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/17/2014 at 7:19pm
| In that site, why are there so many tenergys? Are they fake or something? |