List of Old Butterfly Composite blades
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Topic: List of Old Butterfly Composite blades
Posted By: jabemu
Subject: List of Old Butterfly Composite blades
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 5:35am
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Hi, I'm trying to complete the list of all buttefly composite blades before the age of the codes, i.e. butterfly composite blades with no code and (normally) black-tag or without it. (code=serial number) Some blades were not commercialized in Europa, so I have few information or knowledge about them. I don't consider the ones only made with CS and JP handle. If someone was made only with one type of handle it is put () The blades under suspect that dont were built with black-tag and no code have an "*". I will get it off when it will be confirmed. Could you help me to complete the list?. Thanks in advance LIST Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special Butterfly Allure (ST) Butterfly Biside Butterfly Cofferlait Butterfly Ethel (FL?) Butterfly David Jacobs Butterfly Gergely large-len (FL) Butterfly Gergely (FL) Butterfly Gergely 21 Butterfly Grubba Carbon Butterfly Iolite Butterfly Keyshot Butterfly Kong Linghui Special & Premium Butterfly Klampar T5000 (ST) Butterfly Kumpuru Butterfly Matsushita Pro Special Butterfly Michael Maze Butterfly Moonbeam Butterfly Oberon Butterfly Primorac Carbon Butterfly Pulser Butterfly Quetzal (ST) Butterfly Retriever (ST?) Butterfly Sardius (FL) Butterfly Schlager Carbon Butterfly Schlager Carbon Light Butterfly Scorna T-5000 (FL) Butterfly Special-S Butterfly Timo Boll Spark Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit Butterfly Tamca-5000 (CO?) Butterfly Tamca-5000 silver-len (CO?) Butterfly Viscaria |
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Posted By: Johnny Erasure
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 7:40am
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A more complete list here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57189&title=bty-al-and-alc-blades. ------------- Blade: JM ZLC Rubbers: FH Dignics 09C BH Dignics 05 Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63937&KW=Johnny+Erasure&PID=764628&title=feedback-for-j |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 8:04am
| Thanks Johnny, but I'm interested on older ones only |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 8:09am
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There are so many.... among the T5000s you could add... Butterfly Oberon Butterfly Ethel Butterfly Special-S Butterfly David Jacobs Butterfly Allure Scorna T5000 only FL, Quetzal only ST, Klampar CO ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 8:14am
| Thanks Timo I forget Oberon, Special-S and Allure, the others ones were unknown for me... |
Posted By: tt-panopticum
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 9:57am
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Ai Fukuhara Special |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 10:29am
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Butterfly Kumpuru
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 10:35am
| Thanks Pondus!, Kumpuru all-round blade added |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 10:36am
Did exist this blade with black tag and no-code?, Fukuhara is 25 years old only
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tt-panopticum wrote:Posted By: tt-panopticum
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 10:39am
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IIRC I've seen at least one.... and I still have one 5ply off Ai Fukuhare with black tag and without Ser. Nr. (I guess that's what you mean with "code"?) |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/20/2014 at 10:41am
Yes and thanks, I'm going to add it, but still I have some doubt. I have seen the AF all-wood model with black tag but the T5000 model never (?)
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Posted By: edizg
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 4:43am
| I think you should add Butterfly Gergely 21. I have seen them with old tags and without serial numbers. |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 4:52am
Thanks edizg, I have seen someones with black tag but with serial number (?)
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Posted By: edizg
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 5:04am
| Yes, these versions also exists, but also the ones with black tag and without serial number. (http://www.pingpongboard.com/showdetail.asp?boardid=23336) |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 5:54am
Please check here if you need a proof  http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61374&PID=775829&title=some-of-my-blades#775829" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61374&PID=775829&title=some-of-my-blades#775829 ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51887&title=feedbk-4-dean" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61374&title=some-of-my-blades" rel="nofollow - Blades |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 6:01am
Hi Dean, your thread can serve as reference Many Thanks!!
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 06/21/2014 at 7:21pm
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I ithink i can confirm Matsushita Pro Special. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/22/2014 at 4:49am
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Ok Timo, we trust in your knowledge as collector It was made at least in Fl and ST handle, it is so? Thanks
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 06/22/2014 at 5:00am
Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/22/2014 at 12:31pm
Yes...It would be a difficut but very pretty collection..to cellebrate if some collector has one
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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 06/22/2014 at 10:00pm
There are 7 of them that I don't have...
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/23/2014 at 5:08am
Wow!!.. you are very close!! I can guess that are the following Butterfly Allure Butterfly Ethel Butterfly David Jacobs Butterfly Klampar T5000 (ST)Butterfly Scorna T-5000 (FL) Butterfly Special-S Butterfly Tamca-5000 ?? |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 06/23/2014 at 6:37am
Since Pondus has nearly every model it is hard to guess. But i think he could lack these two since they are really hard to come by: Nearly Impossible to get: Oberon T5000 Special-S T5000 Very Hard to get: David Jacobs Tamca T5000 ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/30/2014 at 3:46am
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Schlager Carbon Light should be in this list? Some information about this?
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Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 06/30/2014 at 11:14am
Any blade with NEO / LIGHT / ALPHA version is inferior to the original !  ------------- 87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9. 78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M. LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition. |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/30/2014 at 11:27am
That is obvious... The question is if this model was made with black tag and no serial number. In this case i think that Yes ...I have seen in the internet pics of this model without serial number, but the pics are not totally clear. If someone has more information about this, it will be wellcome!
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/30/2014 at 12:43pm
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Here Pondus can see some of the blades he needs to complete the "List" http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9722&PN=47&title=pictures-of-your-blade
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 07/02/2014 at 1:46pm
Confirmed!!  |
Posted By: slowloop
Date Posted: 07/02/2014 at 8:37pm
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For a minute there, I was thinking beer Schlager Schlager Light |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 07/03/2014 at 6:58am
So I put the surname "Carbon"
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 4:13am
Threat updated!! |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 4:51am
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I think Kreanga Aeros OFF+, Shlager Inspire OFF, Maze Passion OFF, Primo Powerfeeling OFF are missed here. |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 5:19am
Are they composite blades?...see the title None of them are valid for the list, because are not composite blades and/or were made after the requirements of the post: "...buttefly composite blades before the age of the codes, i.e. butterfly composite blades with no code and (normally) black-tag or without it. (code=serial number)"
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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 6:33am
| Primo Powerfeeling OFF is composite blades with no code and black-tag. |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 6:47am
Sure?, I think it is only a 5 or 7-ply wood. The red ply is also wood http://www.masatenisi.org/english/specbbtrlfl.htm
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Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 7:52am
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primo powerfeeel is 7ply wood ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 11/14/2014 at 8:03am
Thanks!!  |
Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 12/10/2014 at 6:57pm
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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 12/10/2014 at 6:57pm
| matsushita pro special |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 12/10/2014 at 7:00pm
It was in the list...
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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 12/10/2014 at 7:04pm
| Haha sorry i thought you want prove as only timo said this. |
Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 12/10/2014 at 7:06pm
 ------------- 87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9. 78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M. LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition. |
Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 12/12/2014 at 3:01pm
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------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 12/13/2014 at 1:23am
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Maze Passion was also made of fiberglass , so just discard it ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 12/13/2014 at 11:19pm
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Dont forget Matsushia Pro Alpha, Kreanga Carbon, Kreamga Aeros (fiberglass) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 12/13/2014 at 11:22pm
Have you ever seen any of those with Black metal tag? ------------- 87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9. 78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M. LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition. |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 12/14/2014 at 6:07am
I have posted the Aeros blade yet, but the topic owner is not agree  Kreanga Carbon is never produced with metal tag, It was produced from 2006 and stopped shortly. The red colored Matsushita blade is composite, but never produced with metal tag. |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 12/14/2014 at 7:26am
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?? |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 12/14/2014 at 7:29am
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Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 12/14/2014 at 7:32am
I repeat that Matsushita Pro Special is yet in the list. There exist other composite old Matsushita blade?. I dont know it. About the Aeros see the post of E.ZegnaFan
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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 12/15/2014 at 11:04am
Unfortunatly there is no other Matsushita version that is Composite and has the old tag. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61541&title=feedback-timo1978" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: gosm92
Date Posted: 02/04/2015 at 3:00am
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hi, do u have butterfly Oberon for sale ?
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Posted By: estregan
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 10:12pm
Can anyone give a definite answer to this? Does the TAMCA 5000 version exist with black tag and no serial number? ------------- Custom Long V,T05fx http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73967" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 01/10/2017 at 11:56am
I have one with no-code but silver tag. I have never seen one with black tag, but other members say that there exist... |