Aggressive Forehand Loop Demo
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Topic: Aggressive Forehand Loop Demo
Posted By: bbll
Subject: Aggressive Forehand Loop Demo
Date Posted: 11/26/2014 at 10:25pm
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This is the slow motion demo of aggressive Forehand loop. The player is a first division player in Hong Kong. You can see his motion is completely different from his previous spinny loop demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KLXdeLEBw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KLXdeLEBw English subtitle is provided. More Tutorial video: http://www.pp-station.com/search/label/%E4%B9%92%E4%B9%93%E6%95%99%E5%AD%B8" rel="nofollow - http://www.pp-station.com/search/label/%E4%B9%92%E4%B9%93%E6%95%99%E5%AD%B8 Like our facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ppstation.hk" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/ppstation.hk Please also subscribe PPSTATION CHINA youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ppstationchina" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/ppstationchina |
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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/26/2014 at 11:10pm
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Even better if it is accompanied by an in-match demonstration. Such as the one below @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUnSyoO2hA#t=296" rel="nofollow - 4:56 ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 11/28/2014 at 12:40pm
| so instead of having a swing that is close to 90 degrees, lessen it by 15 or so? aside from the emphasis on body swing and amount of contact? |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/28/2014 at 10:34pm
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More or less, since the stroke in the demonstration is technically 衝下旋 or fast loop against backspin. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Edmundtt
Date Posted: 11/29/2014 at 9:04pm
| When I was a beginner, I didn't notice before one of the big difference of loop against backspin, especially spinny loop is emphasizing on moving right leg upward. But now my problem is I seldom be able to do the agressive loop(fast loop) against backspin during the game. I always naturally will do the spinny loop style. Any good suggestion to change that? |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 11/29/2014 at 11:22pm
I usually do spinny loop against heavy backspin, but after watching the video I tried it Friday, the way they described it and was able to get a much faster loop and got it over the net. I used an angle less close than a loop drive and more speed and contact than a spinny loop.
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Edmundtt wrote:Posted By: dannyreventon
Date Posted: 11/30/2014 at 12:13am
The amount of cho/cho le in this video is over 9000! :)) ------------- Main Setup: Timo Boll Spirit FH: Neo H3 Prov 39deg BH: Xiom Musa Stiga Clipper Wood FH: Neo Skyline 3 BH: Stiga Neos Sound ST Avenger 5 FH: Neo H3 Bh: Xiom Musa |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/30/2014 at 9:17pm
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Fast loop is back to front, spinny loop is down to up at the extremes. Vary in themiddle for differences in speed/spin. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Edmundtt
Date Posted: 11/30/2014 at 10:00pm
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You posted a great reference, even with a specific time in a match. For some readers' reference, the title said it is a match between the demonstrator and an ex-Chinese National Player. |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 12/01/2014 at 1:56am
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One aspect not mentioned in the video is the timing. Try to aim for the top of bounce or right after. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Edmundtt
Date Posted: 12/02/2014 at 2:58am
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I think most of the time is it right, but for fast underspin ball which is close to the edge and you are standing near to the edge, you may not have enough time to wait for the ball to reach its top position in its trajectory. At those case, you might probably hitting the ball at its rising stage. Do you think so? |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 12/02/2014 at 4:26pm
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There are two common options for cases like that. The safer of the two is to push it back. The other is to move out of the way during which the ball would descend to the proper height for a spinny loop. Fast loop against backspin is usually a one-shot winner. You want to put in as much quality as you possibly can. Whenever you cannot fulfill that criteria, it is best to fall back to another stroke.
------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Ringer84
Date Posted: 12/02/2014 at 5:11pm
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It's amazing to me how early the looper gets his right foot set and planted. He has his right foot down well before the ball bounces on his side of the table, yet still manages to be in the perfect position every time in order to hit the ball right at the peak of the bounce. It's obvious that these two players have perfected this drill through hundreds or thousands of repetitions. When I try this drill with my practice partners, the pushes I receive are at varying speeds and lengths on the table, which makes the drill more random than static. That's good for simulating match type play I suppose, but not best for mastering your technique/timing. Oh well. Multiball I suppose! ------------- USATT Rating: 1785 Timo Boll Spirit FH: Andro Rasant BH: Baracuda |