ZHANG JIKE PENDULUM SERVE- SLOW MOTION
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Topic: ZHANG JIKE PENDULUM SERVE- SLOW MOTION
Posted By: aunhh
Subject: ZHANG JIKE PENDULUM SERVE- SLOW MOTION
Date Posted: 03/23/2015 at 9:50pm
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Hello everyone who like table tennis and Zhang Jike! I made this video with the desire to give everyone can learn, practice ball handling technique Zhang Jike' reverse If you like this video, please click the "like" and share with people around the world. Thanks a lot for the ITTF, Janus770 !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_Il-gEBdQ ( I can't insert youtube video. Please help me) ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
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Posted By: TTFrenzy
Date Posted: 03/23/2015 at 10:43pm
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Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 2:13am
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SOME FRIENDLY REMARKS. hi, Nguyen Au dear friend, I have to do some criticism on your video in hope we can ultimately have a better educative video of how to serve and return the serve as well. Returning serve is of uttermost importance, you understand. 1) reducing the number of serve replays from 7 down to 3 in a sequence is very much advisable. Yes. 2) Please take care to recompose this video so as to display how the serve is returned back and then the third stroke by Zhike. Thus could we have got a video clip with a better teaching effect. Thanks. Hopefully to see a proper revision of the video quite soon. |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 2:45am
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aunhh wrote:Posted By: suds79
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 10:25am
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That video is interesting to watch. To me it seems like his action is always coming to the side. That being said, I have no idea how he has a version with much side/backspin on it. That's something that baffles me. The side/topspin version is easy. But I've never been able to put much side/back on the ball. To me it always seems more corkscrew whenever I try it... Maybe even a little top after the two bounces.
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 10:47am
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It is amazing to see how ZJK brushes the ball along the whole paddle. It is not a point of contact for the ball but the whole line across the paddle. Just image how much sidespin that can create. ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 10:49am
You need to come round the right bottom side of the ball. Most people try to do it from the back and wonder why it never works (I spent months working with Brett Clarke on this). Alois Rosario from PingSkills also answers this question in a video. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 10:54am
But you will have to twist your wrist a lot to start brushing the ball from the right bottom side . ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:13am
Does he twist his wrist a lot? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 5:06pm
The reverse pendulum motion as ZJK, etc does it is kind of like a BH flip (esp angle of the elbow) except you contact w/ other side of racket. Usually folks copying it don't get low enough to get the ball close to the chest. It's possible to reverse pendulum lower nearer the waist (like in the vid just above) but you have to modify the usual FH serving grip to get the handle below the wrist (almost like you're not using modified serve grip at all). ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |
Posted By: suds79
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 5:19pm
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Alios's video makes perfect sense and it's something I'll have to work on. What amazes me is that when I watch ZJK do it, to me it looks like he never does that and thus you'd expect either pure side or sid/top on all his serves. I never see him come fully under the ball. Perhaps his just disguises his movement very well... Guess that's why they're pros. :)
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 5:29pm
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Because he's bending much lower. But he is still contacting the same point on the ball. Look at Michael Maze serve reverse and you will get a similar illusion sometimes. And you don't have to get to the very bottom of the ball to serve side backspin. You just have to get low enough. Racket head speed will do the rest. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 6:36pm
You can do more or less the same backspin serve w/ racket more behind but the further up the contact point the more demanding it is on contact thinness and speed, so not the best idea to start with. What I've heard is that elite serves tend to include more side than back per se, for which presumably a higher contact is necessary. Also better disguise for no/top variation. ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 9:51pm
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Amazing to see zhang Jike does illegal serves by tossing the ball towards him, instead of straight up. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: DistantStar
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 1:28pm
You make it sound like it's news. MOST top players do it, XuXin's serve is much worse IMO. But yes I do agree it's a problem in general. All these players are capable of tossing the ball up vertical as a resting pendulum. But they refuse to play by the rules and are getting away with it. ------------- Nittaku Acoustic Xiom Sigma Euro 2.0 Tibhar Genius Sound 2.0 |
Posted By: illinichamps
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 8:05pm
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illegal? its not illegal unless you get caught.. and can you really call it illegal if everyone is doing it? nba players like john stockton use to hit opponents in the balls when the refs weren't looking.. now THAT'S illegal.. haha.. but something like ball tossing can be made out to be a different interpretation? people in the highest level of professional sports always try to get that edge.. its just the way of life baby... ------------- H3 Prov. |MJ SZLC | 05 FX |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:21am
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I don't know how to insert video. Please guide me ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:24am
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Thank you so much!!! ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:25am
Yes, I try to train. Side spin and top spin are easy. Backspin is not.  ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:26am
Your comments may be key to perform pendulum serve.  ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: DistantStar
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 12:57pm
Come on man, stop throwing out weak arguments like this. Campus rape is not illegal unless you get caught? Murder is not illegal unless you get caught? Tax evasion is illegal unless you get caught, and everyone's doing it! ITTF make the rules, refs cannot create or take away rules by refusing to enforce ------------- Nittaku Acoustic Xiom Sigma Euro 2.0 Tibhar Genius Sound 2.0 |
Posted By: illinichamps
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 1:15pm
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Lol.. why so serious? Obviously ur someone with no sense of humor. Just take a chill pill, relax... take that stick out of ur butt. Anyways isnt there a saying that if ur not cheating ur not trying? The best always try to bend the rules to their favor. Point in case bill belichick, steve jobs, edison, the 90s pistons.. Not saying what they r doing is right.. just the way of this world unfortunately.. ------------- H3 Prov. |MJ SZLC | 05 FX |
Posted By: AgentHEX
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 2:27pm
You're conflating criminal law with sporting regs among quite a bit of other tripe for the sake of a rhetorical argument revolving around the word "legal". ITTF's own umps deem these serves legal; end of. ------------- Science; upsetting the indignant since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Inquisition_and_first_judgement.2C_1616" rel="nofollow - 1616 . |