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Topic: Andro Treiber Series
Posted By: Chicobo
Subject: Andro Treiber Series
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 4:32pm
A few questions about the andro treiber series: Does anyone know the differences between the Treiber G, H, K, Q, Z? How are their compositions? What are they supposed to be replacing (if any)? There seems to be very little on our MYTT forums on things andro from my search.

From andro's website, it seems their sponsored players tend to choose Z (for men) and H (for women). Has anyone with experience with these blades have any thoughts on this?

~Thanks



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Posted By: LOG1C1AN
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 4:41pm
I think the K = Kevlar, and the Z = Zylon. I'm not sure about the others.


Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 6:20pm
Yeah , g is probably glassfiber .

And so on.

Z is the priciest.

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Posted By: el gato
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 6:45pm
Hi i play with treiber h. outer ply is koto.
I think is the slowest blade of the treiber series.




Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 10:02pm
I played for a while with Treiber G.. Treiber series has the same Boll wood plies with different composite fibers..

About Treiber G I liked a lot, for me it has q better feeling compared to BTY ALC blades with similar speed and control. 

I prefer allwood blades but Treiber G is by far the best composite blade I have used.

G is Glass fiber with Aluminum, Texalium.


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Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 1:57am
Actually I am also back to all wood blades, but for me the Treiber series is a really good series. Especially the Treiber K has a very good feeling. It is nearly the same composition like Boll ALC, Spirit, Viscaria, ... but a little bit more feeling, more control and less power. A clear Off- blade.

I don`t know, if K = Kevlar (of course this could be possible). My information is, that Treiber K has aramid-carbon, which is extremely similar to arylate-carbon and this fits to my feeling.


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Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 12/08/2015 at 4:53am
Anyone tried Treiber Z?



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Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 12/09/2015 at 2:50pm
Nobody?

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Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 12:08am
Based on some reviews of this blade - looks like this is the newer version of Andro Zylon Kiso Hinoki which was a very highly rated blade


Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 12:20am
but doesnt all of the trieber series have koto as outer ply?




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Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 8:49am
Treiber Z is hinoki,
Treiber K is Koto


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Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 9:36am
ahh, thank you mr 64.

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Posted By: stufrowin
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 6:28pm
I saw this from a while back.

" these blades looks quite simillar to the Timo Boll series from Butterfly.
Treiber K - ALC
Treiber H - ZLF
Treiber G - ZLC
" from ooak forum

This looks about right but I think the zlc is likely the z version. No idea about q version. I had the same questions. I do have the treiber z with rasant turbo on both side. "Its awesome" I have a k on order. Hard to compare because I'm still trying to figure out my FH/BH rubbers. I like powergrip and turbo on the forehand but still trying to find a good backhand rubber. Tried rasant beat but too soft for me(my backhand loop has too much arc). In tenergy I like the 05/64 combo. But for 1/2 the price I would like to stick with andro. Any suggestions would be appreciated sorry a little off topic.


Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 8:33pm
q is glassfiber if I recall correctly. yes yes g for glassfiber makes more sense but andro are crazy people.

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Posted By: vajica
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 8:43pm
Z has replaced the Zylon Hinoki, but it is a good deal faster, too low throw for me. I also tried H and didn't care for it, couldn't find anything special abouut it


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Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 11:10pm
How about the size and shape of the Treiber blades?


Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 12/18/2015 at 2:00am
I only own the Treiber K. Head size is more or less Butterfly Standard
(15,7-15,8 x 15,0-15,1 cm)

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Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 12/18/2015 at 2:23am
Thank you for the info.

Several Andro blade heads are usually
more compact or smaller than I am used to. Good to know that their new
blade series come with standard size.


Posted By: pepinho
Date Posted: 12/21/2015 at 3:32am
I played Treiber Z and Treiber K. Treiber K was sold very soon after I got it because it was too flexy for my test. Great control, great for looping but blocking was not so good. I still own Treiber Z. It is very good blade. Fast but with good control. Middle to low throw and the handle is very comfortable as most of the Andro blades. Real hinoki feeling. I do not want to sell it for now because of my EJ dark side :)

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Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 12/21/2015 at 5:06am
There is something strange about the Treiber Z. On the official Andro site and on the websites of many on-line shops in Europe there is a picture of a blade with Koto outer veneers but it seems there is also a print saying Hinoki + Z-fibre... And then there are pictures of a blade with a Hinoki outer veneer. I never had one but I suppose that if there are 2 versions they would play quite differently.


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Posted By: pepinho
Date Posted: 12/21/2015 at 5:52am
The outer ply is hinoki. I saw may be 4-5 blades and always it was hinoki. Treiber Z it is the successor of Andro Zylon Kiso Hinoki but it is more powerfull. So it doesn't make sense to be koto outer ply.

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Posted By: Bjoern
Date Posted: 12/29/2015 at 5:01am
Yes, you are right. Treiber Z has a Hinoki outer ply.

And some further details:
Treiber G is with glassfiber, Treiber K is with Kevlar Carbon and Treiber Q is made with something similar like Kevlar. The main difference between K and Q is that Q is a bit more stiff and faster. 


Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 11/12/2016 at 5:26am
Any updates or new input on this series, particularly Z G or Q?


Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 11/13/2016 at 7:43am
Recently bought a Treiber Z and I gave up my TB ALC and Viscaria to buy it and in short, I am very very happy. Was out on vacation and will be starting my practice from tomorrow. Will post a longer review once I get some more game time. 

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FH - Undecided
BH - Undecided


Posted By: avi3230
Date Posted: 11/13/2016 at 10:17am
U can get two triber Z in price of TB ALC or viscaria (with one dz balls).

I can get it in 5200 Rs.

Please give us the review.

Thank you.


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DHS H3N C 2.2 40- black FH
Andro Good 2.1mm - blue BH


Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 11/13/2016 at 10:27am
avi3230 - Where can I get one for 5200? Do you have a reliable source in India where I can get one from? 
I will definitely be posting the review as soon as I get some game time on it. Also, I mentioned TB ALC and Viscaria to give others the background that I was coming from and not to compare price anyhow. When I say - "give up", I did not mean that I had to sell them to buy this :P


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FH - Undecided
BH - Undecided


Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 11/13/2016 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

avi3230 - Where can I get one for 5200? Do you have a reliable source in India where I can get one from? 
I will definitely be posting the review as soon as I get some game time on it. Also, I mentioned TB ALC and Viscaria to give others the background that I was coming from and not to compare price anyhow. When I say - "give up", I did not mean that I had to sell them to buy this :P


Dr. Inder Kalra: 09990825949

I bought andro rubbers from him, maybe he has blades too. His shop is based in delhi. You can ask him

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Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 11/13/2016 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Recently bought a Treiber Z and I gave up my TB ALC and Viscaria to buy it and in short, I am very very happy. Was out on vacation and will be starting my practice from tomorrow. Will post a longer review once I get some more game time. 

Can't wait to hear it. Please also do share details about your gameplay and ability so we can put the review in context. I'd be interested to hear why you switched since judging by the prices, it wasn't the reason.


Posted By: Wolf
Date Posted: 12/29/2016 at 7:51am
Any comparison between Andro Treiber H, and the Donic Waldner World 89 it would be very helpful . Especially the mention of a low reflection is very useful . High throw Waldner 89 is actually what I don't like ,otherwise it be for me almost the perfect blade .

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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/23/2017 at 1:08pm
Has anyone tried the Treiber Q, it looks like a viscaria clone?

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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm

Chopper:
Stratus Power Defense 85g
FH: Hybrid K3 max
BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm

USATT: 1725


Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/24/2017 at 4:48pm
anyone?

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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm

Chopper:
Stratus Power Defense 85g
FH: Hybrid K3 max
BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm

USATT: 1725


Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 03/24/2017 at 5:06pm
In my opinion the Q plays more like a Zjk szlc than an alc koto blade, it's harder and faster.

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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/24/2017 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by mg mg wrote:

In my opinion the Q plays more like a Zjk szlc than an alc koto blade, it's harder and faster.
Thank you for the reply,

How is the FL handle (if you tried it) in terms of size? I know that the new ZJK ALC/ZLC blades are somewhat wider/thicker than viscaria/tbalc flared which is what I'm looking for. 

Treiber Q has Koto outer and Kiri core, so does Treiber K. Do you know by any chance if Treiber K would be a closer competitor to BTY ALC blades than Treiber Q? 


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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm

Chopper:
Stratus Power Defense 85g
FH: Hybrid K3 max
BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm

USATT: 1725


Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/24/2017 at 6:06pm
Triber K is more like ALC.. It's Kevlar-Carbon.

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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/25/2017 at 11:59am
Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Triber K is more like ALC.. It's Kevlar-Carbon.
Hows the FL handle compared to BTY handles if you tried one?


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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm

Chopper:
Stratus Power Defense 85g
FH: Hybrid K3 max
BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm

USATT: 1725


Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/25/2017 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Triber K is more like ALC.. It's Kevlar-Carbon.
Hows the FL handle compared to BTY handles if you tried one?

I found close to TBS FL. I have small hand, so to me was fine. 


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/25/2017 at 10:55pm
If anyone has any of the treiber blades can you post pictures of the handle (with or without other blades for comparison)? Would greatly appreciate it.

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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm

Chopper:
Stratus Power Defense 85g
FH: Hybrid K3 max
BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm

USATT: 1725



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