Yasaka Rising Dragon
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Topic: Yasaka Rising Dragon
Posted By: AndySmith
Subject: Yasaka Rising Dragon
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 7:00am
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So, I got a sheet of this as part of a tt-japan order. The price is reasonable-ish from there (but it's very expensive at TT11). Arrived this morning. It's made in China, has a glossy, semi-tacky topsheet (looks just like Big Dipper) on a black porous sponge. No tuning or pre-glue layer visible, no particular smell of anything. Pics (not great quality unfortunately):    |
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Posted By: Figueiredo81
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 7:07am
| I'd like to see please. Thank you. |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 7:56am
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Will love to read a review please :P |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 8:58am
| Interest in a review? Always! |
Posted By: vic#74
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 12:58pm
Andy, you're the men  ------------- ITC Premier XR Nittaku Sieger Pk50 Tibhar Evolution EL-S |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/17/2015 at 5:38am
Yes, I am ALL the men.  Pics added. I have a tournament this weekend so I won't be mixing my equipment around until that's out of the way. Will report back when I've had chance to give it a blast.
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vic#74 wrote:Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/17/2015 at 3:40pm
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On one hand it seems like Palio-Yasaka hybrid (similar to Zap rubbers). OTOH, rather pricey for China-made ribber... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/18/2015 at 11:32am
It's very expensive for Chinese. Heavy and hard too. I'm probably not going to like it.
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 08/18/2015 at 11:49am
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sponge looks very much like friendship. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: Tuly007
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 9:04pm
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Any other updates on this dragon rubber???? ------------- still testing |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:39am
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it said on yasaka facebook that 2 swedish young players already use it (so it is not only for typical chinese players) ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: Tuly007
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 9:42pm
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Got me one, with 2 Tibhar 7ply furious blades., The dragon was indeed sticky,could lift the ball with it, but after a few sweaty wipes the stickiness went and it's gone, no more ball lifting now, More robot and play time tomorrow... ------------- still testing |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:46pm
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I see that Andy added some additional thoughts over at ttdaily This is the first I've heard of this rubber. $43 at TT11.... say what?!!! even $30 at tt-japan. uh, yeah... no ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 1:03am
From TT-Japan for around that price, you could buy Rhyzm, a rubber from the Vega/Boost family, or X-Tend HS.
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Posted By: thethinker
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 1:23am
| I like Rising Dragon. After breaking it in it's simi-sticky only, not traditional Chinese. More spin than T05, and slower but not by much. Not overly heavy either. Nice sound on the blade that was testing on. Like it but $40 is still too much. $30 at tt-japan is OKish. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 5:25am
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I haven't updated this thread. Mainly because a clubmate was looking for a tacky rubber and I let him try Rising Dragon. He loved it, bought it off me, and that was that. So I ended up with very little time to try it out overall - just a few hours. I stole his bat last night and had a quick bash once more to refresh my memory. The tack has almost completely gone - it's just barely there now. It felt super nice actually - the topsheet is good, but the sponge performed very well. If I closed my eyes, I could believe that it was a Jap sponge. Although it's hard, it still has a useful elastic feel and reminds me most of a hard variant of Stiga's Airoc sponge. Certainly a more modern feel to a typical hard chinese rubber, nicer for a regular tensor user like me, and a step up from the harder versions of Big Dipper (for example). I'm not saying that RD is actually using a Jap sponge though. No way to be 100% sure. I'll probably order another sheet on my next tt-japan spree.
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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 8:43am
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Andy, can it possibly be good enough to justify $30 a sheet? I just ordered a few sheets of Rasant variants at $30 a sheet, including shipping! Rising Dragon would of course be $30 plus shipping at tt-japan. I'm struggling to believe it's worth it. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 9:55am
I'm not sure. It's definitely not worth €45-50, which is the range most euro stores are charging. $30? Maybe. Shipping isn't cheap at tt-japan though, so I think that pushes it into maybe- territory.
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Posted By: thethinker
Date Posted: 10/14/2015 at 4:33am
| I agree with AndySmith about the sponge, the best part of the rubber. It's hard but still kicks is how I would describe it. Too bad I didn't ask what the hardness of the sponge I used. |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 10/21/2015 at 11:29am
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Can you review this rubber? Can you compare with H3? thank you. I will use this rubber with Viscaria instead of 729 friendship Battle 2 or DHS H3 pro orange ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: king_pong
Date Posted: 10/21/2015 at 3:50pm
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I first noticed this rubber a day or two ago over at http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/" rel="nofollow - TTDB.com . It is currently their "Best Overall" rubber (not that that is saying much with only 6 reviews, but it did catch my attention, leading in " http://www.tabletennisdb.com/top-rubber/spin-desc.html" rel="nofollow - Most Spin ", " http://www.tabletennisdb.com/top-rubber/gears-desc.html" rel="nofollow - Most Gears ", and " http://www.tabletennisdb.com/top-rubber/overall-desc.html" rel="nofollow - Best Overall "). — http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/yasaka-rising-dragon.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/yasaka-rising-dragon.html ------------- Stiga Infinity VPS (Master): fh/bh - Nittaku Hammond CR max |
Posted By: thethinker
Date Posted: 10/21/2015 at 4:49pm
| It's to me as good as H3 provincial or better. |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 10/22/2015 at 8:26am
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without reasonable reviews is quit difficult to believe it ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 11/06/2015 at 7:38am
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I got the rubber and i'm going to test it today evening ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 11/06/2015 at 11:23am
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some pictures yasaka rising dragon vs evolutuon mxs   ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 11/06/2015 at 11:58am
Hi, thanks for the pics, would love for you to compare Yasaka Rising Dragon with rubbers like ELP, Rakza 7 and Rakza X. Thanks. |
Posted By: dabookerman
Date Posted: 12/08/2015 at 8:09pm
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I tried a sheet last night and I was not impressed. The sponge was pretty dead and lacked power while the topsheet was not very tacky at all. I normally play T80 and would have expected that my short game would instantly have a little boost from the tack but it did not whatsoever. ------------- Photino FL Yasaka Rising Dragon Short Pips |
Posted By: The Canadian Bacon
Date Posted: 12/08/2015 at 11:01pm
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is it that tough to get the Dragon to Rise? :) So stick to Mark V then? |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 12/09/2015 at 5:49am
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Mark v on sale for 20 tt11. -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 12/09/2015 at 1:18pm
Hahahahaha may be the dragon has been smoking too much  ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 12/09/2015 at 11:51pm
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rising dragon = dhs prov h3 or tg3. anyone? they stole the xiom carbo sponge :( ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: YBFlash
Date Posted: 10/01/2016 at 12:34am
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Ok, I played with it. Spin: DHS Hurricane NEO3 >> Rising Dragon > Omega Asia V I would describe Rising Dragon as slightly slower and slightly spinnier version of Xiom Omega Asia V I personally liked it. ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso+ FH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 BH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 10/01/2016 at 6:58pm
| new Shining Dragon Rubber with blue sponge on black topsheet and red sponge on Red |
Posted By: cje
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 12:19pm
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has anyone used both Rising Dragon & Razka 9?-and willing to compare
------------- http://www.murrayfieldtt.com/ YEO/ Galaxy E-3/ FH: Skyline III Neo / BH: Palio HK 1997 |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 7:26pm
| Hard to say : RD is Made in China but R9 is made in Germany . They are different. However, RD is pricy in considering a piece of rubber made in China |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 8:05pm
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is Rakza 9 tacky like Rising dragon ? ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 9:03pm
| R9 is non tacky . German tec, not chin |
Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 9:38pm
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R9 has a shiny top sheet not tacky(sticky)just like R7 and unlike RX which has a flat color top sheet. I think the Rising Dragon is a Chinese top sheet and some what tacky(sticky).I have played with all three rubbers and really did not care that much for the Rising Dragon. It's no H3.. ------------- Shifter |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 10:40pm
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Is rising dragon spinnier than baracuda? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 10/02/2016 at 10:53pm
| Shining Dragon comes out ! |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 10/03/2016 at 12:45am
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Rising dragon gave me those net moments. But i was using a blade which isnt meannt for chinese rubbers. ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: mog1111
Date Posted: 01/02/2017 at 12:46pm
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if H3N ia 1 on a scale of Chinese to euro with tenergy 05 at 10. is rising dragon and/or Chinese dragon more Chinese or euro? I want something like H3N for my backhand, but probably a little less tacky may be a 3 on my scale? this sounds like rising ddragon, now if they made hurricane 3 neo in 1.9 or 2mm that would be awesome for my bh ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon FH: Tenergy 05fx BH: Spinlord Keiler |
Posted By: man_iii
Date Posted: 07/07/2017 at 5:54pm
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I have used YRD for more than 1 year. YRD is a Chinese slightly sticky/tacky and more Euro friction/grippy type hybrid rubber. It doesn't have super-spinny serve or pushes, but you can add more spin with just a little bit of wrist action. Rubber is not super-fast either, and you can hit a lot harder to make it go faster. This rubber is good when you are struggling to keep ball on the table, trouble receiving serve, push returns, opening flick or attacks, moving away from Euro rubbers becos they are too fast, or too soft, or too spinny and overreacting. So for a player developing more Chinese style game, but not fully playing with strong power and spin this rubber bridges the gap. YRD gives very reactive return based on input from player. If you wish to play soft touch you can. If you wish to play hard strokes you can without bottoming the rubber or ball flying off. YRD is medium-low throw. YRD topsheet helps play brush stroke as well as sink into the sponge strokes as well. Challenging to play far-away from table with enough power to beat ball past the opponent. Close- and mid-distance from table works very well. Long push seems very sensitive, short push needs more height adjustment probably due to the medium-low-throw. No.1 reason to buy this rubber ? Quality ! Every batch of rubber is similar to every other batch. Rubber is still so good after more than 1 year and I can still play with same feeling! YRD Red rubber is softer and seems more fragile less durable. YRD Black is good as new even after 1 year.
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