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Topic: New Equipment 2016
Posted By: AndySmith
Subject: New Equipment 2016
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 9:13am
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New year, new you, new stuff to waste your cash on. Rubbers Andro Good Andro GTT (40, 45) Andro Rasant Chaos Armstrong Attack 8 (43, 48, 53) Donic Bluefire Big Slam Donic Acuda Blue P1 Turbo Donic Desto F4 Donic Slice 40 CD Gewo Proton Neo (325, 375, 450) Gewo Hype XT Pro (40, 50) Joola Samba (19, 27) Joola Samba Tech Mizuno GF Pro Nittaku Alhelg SC Nittaku Alhelg SR Soulspin P16 Soulspin P16ST Stiga Mantra (S, M, H) Stiga Genesis (S, M) Stiga Sculpture Stiga Structure Tibhar Evolution EL-S Tibhar Evolution FX-S TSP Spectol (Red, Blue) TSP Regalis (Red, Blue) Xiom Vega Europe DF Xiom Vega Asia DF Xiom Vega SPO Xiom Vega LPO Yasaka Shining Dragon Blades Andro Core 7 OFF Andro Core 7 OFF+ DHS Fang Bo B1 DHS Fang Bo B2 Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon Donic Zhou Yu One Donic Zhou Yu Two Donic Zhou Yu Three Donic Shiono Mataso Gewo Zoom Pro Light Gewo Zoom Balance Gewo Super-Force CF Gewo X-Force VC Gewo Balsa Carbon (775, 575, 375) Joola Air Carbon Joola Air Fibre Stiga Carbonado 45 Stiga Carbonado 90 Stiga Eternity V VPS Tibhar Balsa Def Tibhar Balsa Allround Tibhar Balsa Fibre Off Tibhar Balsa Fibretec Tibhar Drinkhall Defensive Classic Tibhar Drinkhall Allround Carbon Classic Tibhar VS Unlimited TSP Swat Power TSP Swat Speed
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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 11:00am
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New Evo rubbers? "S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?... ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 11:10am
I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now. I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.
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DreiZ wrote:Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 12:06pm
Interesting. The key difference between mxp and mxs is overall hardness. I don't remember whether it was due to topsheet or sponge hardness though. I'm wondering if FX-S will be softer or harder than FX-P and how it will affect the weight. 2 MX-Ps felt heavy for me so I decided to try FX-P but now comes FX-S! What's the release date for these rubbers? ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/31/2016 at 6:43am
It's all a bit misleading IMO, but no worse than any other ESN supplier does. MX-S had a different sponge, different topsheet, different tuning to MX-P. Not just a variation on MX-P, but Tibhar just slots it in to their line-up as they see fit. It's even hard to be sure that EL-S and FX-S will just be softer sponged versions of MX-S yet. Best to wait for an early yogi review! Not sure of the release date, I've only seen the packaging on some tibhar marketing images. They're not even on the LARC yet.
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Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 01/31/2016 at 10:55am
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RACKETS ALL OF PLASTIC ?? Hong Kong TT Association just submitted a proposal for the ITTF AGM oncoming April 2016
Alumimium paddles to generate hipersonyc speedy shots. With the unvoiced intention by all the "unhappy" Nations of winning chinese players without much physical exertions. Obviously, to shake Chinese superiority down is what the proposal factually aimed for. Aluminium paddles?? God forbid... Please. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rw_QFs19uLIJ:www.ittf.com/World_Events/wttc_2016/AGM_BoD/2016_ITTF_AGM_BoD_EN.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rw_QFs19uLIJ:www.ittf.com/World_Events/wttc_2016/AGM_BoD/2016_ITTF_AGM_BoD_EN.pdf 
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Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 01/31/2016 at 12:09pm
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＠igorponger: if you want to start another conspiracy on table tennis related to CNT, feel free to start your own thread, this is a new equipment thread for 2016 new releases. You can interpret the proposal all you want in your own thread. ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 01/31/2016 at 11:34pm
Yasaka ebony carbon. |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/23/2016 at 3:03am
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Butterfly Peter Korbel has been redesigned, although still without ST handle, only FL. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 02/23/2016 at 8:41am
  New Stiga rubbers made in China. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/23/2016 at 8:42am
| Ah, interesting. I didn't know Genesis were Chinese rubbers. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 02/23/2016 at 9:02am
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Yes, I tought it would be Made in Japan, something closer to Tenergy. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/23/2016 at 9:52am
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Well, still looking forward to seeing it. Depending on price, of course. In other news, just seen in Butterfly's catalog that they've got shirts made out of...deep breath...Nano Bamboo. Nano. Bamboo.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 7:19am
| Some new Donic things creeping out. |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 8:01am
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. ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 8:02am
ITTF tell us to use slower ball, and someone try to bring up faster blade to hit the slower ball. Cry out loud !!! ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 8:16am
Part of the issue is definitely the balance of the Stratus blade, but I would say it is worth trying EL-P in max or 2.0mm or MX-P in 2.0mm if you couldn't handle the weight of max MX-P. I had similar issues with Max MX-S. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 9:01am
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Here comes another Stiga blade. |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 10:20am
I switched to H3-50 in 2.1 with one layer of FTL and FX-P 2.0 not boosted. Much better since both rubbers are in medium-heavy range. ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 10:44am
Wow, it looks so beautiful. Expecting this to be priced similarly to the Emerald VPS V (around £100?) ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 11:30am
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All time Joola best seller (Samba) returns being made in Japan after Samba+ (Made in Germany by ESN)   ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 12:55pm
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No new equipment will help improve our games especially my game. I will spend my money on some new guitars. It's always greener on the other side of the road...not.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 3:52pm
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Somebody please tell Stiga that they don't need another "hard" blade. ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 02/25/2016 at 8:01pm
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Yasaka blades: Rose Grade Galaxya Carbon Special Siam Feel Sweden Carbon Nittaku blades: Tornado King Speed (made in japan, some people thought it was a rename hurricane king from dhs before, but it's not) Tornado King Power Tornado King MA LONG Carbon (made by DHS) MA LONG 5 (made by DHS) Evoocial 7 Evoocial 5 Forestia WG7 Goriki Super Drive Goriki Super Cut Negia R-H (jpen) ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: adishorul
Date Posted: 02/26/2016 at 12:16pm
+1 But 2 layers of booster and proper training can help a lot :D |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 02/26/2016 at 12:27pm
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Why Nittaku sells Ma long 5 made by DHS? Will Nittaku make Ma long 5 in Japan? ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/27/2016 at 7:03am
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Rubbers: Stiga Mantra S Stiga Mantra M Stiga Mantra H made in Japan. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: siestakey
Date Posted: 02/27/2016 at 7:40am
I think they distribute for DHS in Japan eg . Nittaku H3 etc. ------------- Siesta Key W968 Omega Tour 7 i |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/29/2016 at 1:37pm
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Blades: Nittaku Latika 7 Nittaku Resist II ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/04/2016 at 10:10am
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Blades: TSP Swat Speed TSP Swat Power Victas Koji Matsushita Special Rubbers: TSP Regalis Blue TSP Regalis Red TSP Spectol Blue TSP Spectol Red ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 03/04/2016 at 9:58pm
Hey Ray, Where did you see the Nittaku Latika 7 ? any pics ? ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/05/2016 at 2:54am
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Rubber: Nittaku Flyatt Spin
I saw it in Nittaku 2016 Catalog at http://Ta-q.jp/en" rel="nofollow - http://Ta-q.jp/en :  ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 03/09/2016 at 5:03pm
| Maze Magic |
Posted By: adishorul
Date Posted: 03/10/2016 at 10:06pm
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If anybody know japanese please help and tell me the nittaku tornado king composition. http://www.nittaku.com/upload/product/racket/product_main_12348.jpeg Thanks |
Posted By: winsk127
Date Posted: 03/11/2016 at 3:06am
| My GF help me to translate the composition of tornado king and she told me that, the top piles is Wenge next ply is pine wood (may be spurce) and then ayous core. Hope that it may help you. |
Posted By: adishorul
Date Posted: 03/11/2016 at 6:44am
Thank you very much. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 03/14/2016 at 1:51pm
| Added Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/16/2016 at 3:10pm
 ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 03/17/2016 at 5:38pm
| Handle looks like Schlager Carbon. But outer veneer is Koto, not Hinoki. |
Posted By: Figueiredo81
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 10:53am
Another TBS Clone... I wonder how different it is from BAUM SPIRIT except color and name  ------------- M.Maze / T05 M.Jun / T05 |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 3:12pm
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Looks nice. Like the color scheme. What's the price for it? ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: Victor_the_cleaner
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 3:42pm
Ich mochte. Wieviel Geld?
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 3:53pm
| Retail is €99, but once it's out I'd recommend checking with tibi for prices on Donic blades. He made me a happy man when I got my Crests. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 3:53pm
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99 Euros --> http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/index.php?screen=dstore.content.flash_catalog&sid=1 ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 4:32pm
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Blades: Joola Air Carbon Joola Air Fibre ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 5:38pm
 Sweden's former world champion, J.O. Waldner. Performance he was most asked to rubber which has been in the hands a number of glory. It was control. And, the balance of speed and spin is not collapse. "J.O. Waldner Legend" is to protect the faithful to its intention, was matched to modern table tennis at a slightly softer sponge. Control is spun, genealogy of the legend is universal. It's a classic rubber made in Japan. 21/3/16 in Japan |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 03/18/2016 at 5:45pm
Coming soon to DONIC Japan, according to their Facebook page. Late April according to one shop. Legendary racket, again. Table tennis world of the legendary player, JO Waldner received a was retired in 2016, was allowed to reprint the racket of legend as DONIC JAPAN limited goods. Made on the basis of the advice of Waldner, it became both the prototype of the "JO Shape", "JO Waldner OFF". The hitting course sharpness that JO shape is spread, shot feeling draw the control to the maximum, and has combined the freedom of wearing easy to speed the pace in the time of hitting the ball. Both created a legend "JO Waldner OFF", supported the early glory of Waldner, it is a memorial racket. ※ This racket is becoming JO Shape specification. ※ It is five plywood. Other details are not out official data, it can not be well received.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 03/29/2016 at 4:56am
DHS have given Fang Bo his own signature blade: |
Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 03/29/2016 at 10:57pm
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Yea, DHS will have 2 Fang Bo blades (B1 & B2) 1) B1 will be an all wood 7 layers blade showing in AndySmith's post. It has similar structure as the 506, but with a harder koto surface. 2) B2 will be an inner ALC structure blade just like Hurricane Long 5, however the thickness and hardness will be slightly different, and it'll be more suited to the liking of Fang Bo B2 will look like this:  ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/29/2016 at 11:12pm
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Got word that the stiga genesis rubber will be a high level rubber. If it is made in china for the topsheet and maybe has an airoc sponge, it would be something to look forward to. Mantra will be coming out too so 2 rubbers series from stiga. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 12:38am
The last time you said this (for Stiga Calibra Tour series), it didn't go too well for me  |
Posted By: Da Baobei
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 7:23am
 Stiga RTR (Raijin Thor), not sure if this will be released outside of Japan though... |
Posted By: obesechopper
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 12:25pm
| Does anyone know if the DHS Ning blade comes in a straight handle? ...and what it is a clone of!? |
Posted By: Da Baobei
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 1:18pm
Afaik it only comes in FL and CPEN. You could get an Ebenholz V instead. |
Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 1:44pm
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damn, it's threads like these that make me want to waste my money. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/30/2016 at 3:37pm
I was referring to a rubber for pro and beginner like the evo and calibra series. You should have read the review if it suited your style. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: tazdevil
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 11:37am
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It is also interesting to note that B2 is slightly lighter than HL5, where it is 90g+-3 for shakehand, and 88g+-3 for cpen. 
------------- Current http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72051" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 11:42am
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Blades: Stiga Carbonado 45 Stiga Carbonado 90 https://www.facebook.com/stigatabletennis/videos/1000328430037045/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/stigatabletennis/videos/1000328430037045/ ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 3:21pm
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Rubbers: Soulspin P16 Soulspin P16ST ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 3:30pm
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Do you know what's the difference compared to first Carbonados? These two have thinner fibre? ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 4:10pm
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Does anyone know when and where that new Donic Ovtcharov blade, the ALC one, will be sold? |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 4:18pm
June at http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/dstore/Hoelzer/34037/DONIC-Ovtcharov-True-Carbon.html ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 03/31/2016 at 5:07pm
That's what they say in the vid. Thinner carbonado layer, more wood feel. Sounds good, actually.
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Posted By: tazdevil
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 11:13am
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This is also being confirmed by the Table Tennis World magazine (April issue), that lower density textreme will be used (100g/m2 in 145/190, while 62g/m2 in 45/90). 
------------- Current http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72051" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: tazdevil
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 11:20am
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The same issue of TTW also mentions about that: - Eternity VPS V has a dyed limba outer, supposinglly faster than the original Internity's limba outer - DHS Bo B1 has similar construction with 506, but the outer is changed to koto   ------------- Current http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72051" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 12:11pm
S = nonporous sponge (less catapult, more linear) P = porous sponge (more catapult) (it is like bluefire M and bluefire JP ) whereas MX means hard, EL means medium, and FX means soft. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 12:20pm
S and JP are still porous sponges, but smaller pores than P or M. Just so people don't expect solid sponges from olden times.
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Posted By: andras
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 1:02pm
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S = spin P =power |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 2:02pm
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That`s right: MX-P = Maximum Power FX-P = Flexible Power EL-P = Elastic Power MX-S = Maximum Spin FX-S = Flexible Spin EL-S = Elastic Spin ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/01/2016 at 7:41pm
If you're referring to the "Ovtcharov True Carbon", they're expecting it to be available in June 2016, but it might take a little longer to make it into the stores. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: gnopgnipster
Date Posted: 04/04/2016 at 9:41pm
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Valor Premier with sponge (short pips) is new for 2016. I tested it and liked it very much. Available in 3 thicknesses.
------------- Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 04/09/2016 at 5:38am
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Rubbers: GEWO Hype XT Pro 50.0 GEWO Hype XT Pro 40.0 GEWO Proton Neo 450 GEWO Proton Neo 375 GEWO Proton Neo 325 ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Da Baobei
Date Posted: 04/10/2016 at 3:20pm
Xiom Zeta Offensive and Zeta Offensive+     |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 04/10/2016 at 3:47pm
Butterfly impartial xs qnd xb short pips |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 7:02am
| Added Tibhar VS Unlimited, the Vladi-badged version of the CCA. Not sure if there are any differences in construction yet. |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 7:35am
MSRP is only 179,90EUR. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: hexiadetrix
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 10:19am
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Does anyone know when the new Stiga rubbers will be made available (mantra & genesis)? Any information on how they're supposed to play? ------------- --- TB ALC Red - Dignics Black - T05 |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 10:33am
....only.... Tibhar is squeezing every bit from vladi's last few years as a player. Any pictures of the blade online? ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 10:50am
http://ift.tt/22qtuVd" rel="nofollow - http://ift.tt/22qtuVd ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 10:52am
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Link tells me to log in. ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 10:58am
 ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 04/12/2016 at 11:06am
Looks beautiful... ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/21/2016 at 4:44am
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Someone on a german forum has heard from Tibhar and says that the VS Unlimited is slightly harder and faster than the CCA Unlimited. I've also added Joola Samba Tech, made in Germany: http://www.contra.de/product_info.php/info/p14632_Joola-Belag-Samba-Tech.html
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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 04/30/2016 at 10:54pm
do you know the release date of VS Unlimited? ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 05/01/2016 at 1:53pm
I played with cca and found it very fast and elastic . For me was difficult to controll my shots. If the VS is even faster is not good but is good if is harder ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/01/2016 at 2:45pm
Contra has it listed as 4-8 days away, so I guess it's imminent.
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 6:55am
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It reminds me of the Donic Crest series... I wonder if it's made in the same place using the same technology. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 7:23am
They do look similar, have similar prices etc. The Ov True Carbon is another one which might be from the same source. I was looking at a Yinhe Venus.3 (the super expensive one) the other day and was struck at the similarity with my Crest AR+ in terms of design and materials. It made me wonder...
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 6:28pm
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I am going to buy an Ov True Carbon once they are available, although i probably shouldn't. |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 6:38pm
is it because its suppose to be a viscaria clone?  review please! ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 7:10pm
| Yes indeed, why? Looks like a high end, higher speed variation on the ALC classic, but nothing seems to set it apart, little is known about it and even pictures are hard to come by. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 7:13pm
After I tried Baum Espirit from Donic, I keep away of every BTY Alc clone.. Even that I tried from a friend just out of curiosity.. I can imagine how Ov True Carbon will be..  ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 10:05pm
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You guys are probably right. But Donic does have a really nice shape for their ST handles. You are doing a good job of talking me out of it. With that said, I have a suspicion that this blade may actually be made by Soulspin, which is why I am going to try it. |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 12:47am
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The Donic World Champion '89 blades were very likely made by Soulspin as well...they are very nice blades. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 4:36am
Yeah, the WC89 are SoulSpin, as is the Ovtcharov Feat. The Crest blades most likely aren't. Hard to say about the True Carbon, but Donic are helpful in being clear on their "Made in Germany" blades, so if they don't push that for the True Carbon (when it's available in June) then I would hedge my bets on it being made elsewhere. If it's as good in terms of quality and feel as the Crests (which are far better made than the Baum, for example), it should be a top blade for €80 and a cheaper (and market available) option for all the overpriced, market restricted Butterfly ALC variants. It would be nice to get more info though - head size, thickness, etc.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/31/2016 at 5:32am
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Added: Donic Zhou Yu Two (5 ply, ebony outer) Donic Zhou Yu Three (5+2 aramid carbon, another Baum Esprit variant?) Donic Shiono Mataso (3 ply, spruce outer, looks like the SoulSpin WC blades)
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 06/20/2016 at 1:29pm
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Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon available at Dandoy for 81 Euros http://www.dandoy-sports.com/ww_en/donic-ovtcharov-true-carbon.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.dandoy-sports.com/ww_en/donic-ovtcharov-true-carbon.html ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 06/20/2016 at 2:30pm
kinda looks like those WC89 blades ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 06/20/2016 at 4:23pm
Where I could find more info about these? |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/20/2016 at 6:31pm
http://world-tt.com/blog/yu/2016/05/30/%E3%81%B2%E3%81%A3%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8A%E3%81%A87%E6%9C%88%E7%99%BA%E5%A3%B2/" rel="nofollow - http://world-tt.com/blog/yu/2016/05/30/%E3%81%B2%E3%81%A3%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8A%E3%81%A87%E6%9C%88%E7%99%BA%E5%A3%B2/
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