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Topic: RPB with short pimples?
Posted By: buffalowings
Subject: RPB with short pimples?
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 10:34am
Has anyone experimented this? CPen with H3 forehand and short pips for Backhand

Mainly using flat hitting or hitting through downspin unless it really low and spin.



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Posted By: rick_ys_ho
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 4:42pm
I don't think it is a good fit. Hitting with short pips requires the paddle to be opened up, however with RPB grip backhand side of the paddle tends to be more closed, which is better for brushing than for hitting.


Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 5:36pm
In my opinion it´s not a good idea. Using a SP instead of an inverted in RPB you would loose some weapons such as opening topspin or counterloop at mid distance.


Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 6:55pm
Zhou XinTong (I think that's her name) uses Sp on her rpb... She is lp fh tho

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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by JohnnyChop JohnnyChop wrote:

Zhou XinTong (I think that's her name) uses Sp on her rpb... She is lp fh tho


Play with spectol dont know what version


Posted By: buffalowings
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 12:52pm
actually was considering using moristo SP which is softer and some friction.

but kind of think the harder ones are easier to hit through now


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by JohnnyChop JohnnyChop wrote:

Zhou XinTong (I think that's her name) uses Sp on her rpb... She is lp fh tho
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+100

FH:  Dawei 388D-1 Quattro.  (LP)
BH:  TSP Spectol.  (SP) For RPB.

This is how she plays:  Purple shirt player.
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Posted By: 42andbackpains
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 1:27pm
In my opinion shortpips on the backhand is more like a very slow inverted rubber with the advantage of incoming spin from the oppenent being negated to a certain point. First thing is that you will notice is the serve return is easier but then you will notice there is no catapult effect of the modern day inverted rubbers when performing normal strokes. All power is generated by you. All modern day strokes can be done with short pips, looping, opening flicks and hitting. As i have learned from Shao Yu (Former US Team member and plays short pips attacking style on the bh) One thing which you must learn to master is to hit through incoming underspin or sidespin serves or serve returns that are above the net. This is probably the major advantage of short pips. Get a good coach or someone above 2000 to teach you the art of short pips on the backhand. Luckily my club has a couple fellas that use it on there bh(Shakehand and Cpen). Welcome to the darkside Smile

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Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by buffalowings buffalowings wrote:

Has anyone experimented this? CPen with H3 forehand and short pips for Backhand

Mainly using flat hitting or hitting through downspin unless it really low and spin.


I think using rpb to flat hit and hit through under is doable but it is a very awkward stroke unless the ball is high... Just my experience

You might be better off with something like gambler outlaw a fast but less skinny rubber(I know it is still spinny)

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729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1   
Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max


Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 08/11/2016 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by buffalowings buffalowings wrote:

Has anyone experimented this? CPen with H3 forehand and short pips for Backhand

Mainly using flat hitting or hitting through downspin unless it really low and spin.


I moved to SP (802-40) on my YEO cpen FH with inverted (TSP Agrit Speed) for RPB. After playing for a month, still unable to adjust SP on my forehand I decided to reverse the rubbers and tried SP for RPB. To my suprise it played really well. I could place my RPB strokes very accurately and flicks became very effective. I believe spinny pips like 802-40, Dolphin, TSP Super Spinpips, etc. can work effectively for RPB. Never used Spectol or 802 so don't know how they'll behave on RPB

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Posted By: suds79
Date Posted: 08/11/2016 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by 42andbackpains 42andbackpains wrote:

In my opinion shortpips on the backhand is more like a very slow inverted rubber with the advantage of incoming spin from the oppenent being negated to a certain point. First thing is that you will notice is the serve return is easier but then you will notice there is no catapult effect of the modern day inverted rubbers when performing normal strokes. All power is generated by you. All modern day strokes can be done with short pips, looping, opening flicks and hitting. As i have learned from Shao Yu (Former US Team member and plays short pips attacking style on the bh) One thing which you must learn to master is to hit through incoming underspin or sidespin serves or serve returns that are above the net. This is probably the major advantage of short pips. Get a good coach or someone above 2000 to teach you the art of short pips on the backhand. Luckily my club has a couple fellas that use it on there bh(Shakehand and Cpen). Welcome to the darkside Smile

+1

I have a Sp & LP penhold I like to bust out because it's fun and I love the twiddling style.

On service receive, I use to always twiddle to LP and return with that only. Well last week I experimented with occasionally RPBing a serve return with the SP on the backhand. Over the table loop. It works and can be done. What you miss out on spin compared to inverted you can make up for in that the spin of the serve doesn't effect you as much.

That's for service return (namely short serves) only if you're looking to over the table loop or those. In a general rally or anything off the table I think one would struggle there wishing they had inverted on that RPB.

So can it be done in certain situations? Sure. But overall I wouldn't recommend it.


Posted By: kumn812
Date Posted: 12/11/2018 at 4:06am
feel good everytime flat hit with short pips RPB

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TSP special dynam,Yasaka aries


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 12/11/2018 at 8:24am
Hi what rubber is your cpen clubmate using?


Posted By: Ranger-man
Date Posted: 12/12/2018 at 3:45pm
How about penhold with medium pips on the forehand? Can that work. I usually play with one-ply Jpen blades and my preferred rubber is tacky or semi-tacky Chinese rubbers on them, such as 729 FX Super. My rubber was nearing the stage where I knew I needed to replace it so at the end of the session I just peeled it off, thinking I would put on a new on and play with it the next day. I got busy, did not get the time to do that so I just picked up another blade I had which has Sriver in Max on one side and Gambler Peacekeeper OX on the other. 

But when I got to the club I started hitting with the OX instead of the inverted side. And it was fun!
I loved the strong chops, the amazing blocks and was still able to do spinny loops and spinny serves. And then there was the added advantage of the reduced reaction to incoming spin.
I want to try it again tomorrow. So, my question. is medium pips on the FH any good. Btw, for me FH or BH is the same since I don't do RPB. The blade I used is a Yinhe M6 Cpen. 

Would medium pips work on a one-ply blade as well?


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