New Viscaria design?
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Topic: New Viscaria design?
Posted By: LonelyKid
Subject: New Viscaria design?
Date Posted: 05/01/2016 at 10:01pm
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Posted By: powerhouse
Date Posted: 05/01/2016 at 11:47pm
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Yes the new packaging is a smaller black box instead of the blue box, also the Butterfly silver tag at the bottom of the handle has change since last year but still had the arylate carbon lens in the back. This year the front remains the same, but instead of using arylate carbon lens, it has changed to the new hologram lens instead. So far only see the new hologram lens at the back of the handle starting with serial#Q, you can see one of the seller is selling the new model even the handle colours have changed. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75230&title=1-x-butterfly-viscaria-fl-fishscale-topply" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75230&title=1-x-butterfly-viscaria-fl-fishscale-topply ------------- Blade: Butterfly Viscaria FH: Dignics 09c BH: Dignics 05 |
Posted By: rickywinataa
Date Posted: 05/02/2016 at 1:58am
| Like stated above, it's indeed BTY's new design for most of their blades these days |
Posted By: LonelyKid
Date Posted: 05/02/2016 at 4:33am
| The new boxing is nice. But I still prefer the arylate carbon lens :/ |
Posted By: Johnny.d.p
Date Posted: 05/02/2016 at 5:06am
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The new boxing is quite simple. No frills keeping it simple stupid. I think it looks great. Had me scared at first because I just got a new Viscaria, the one with all updates but with the arylate carbon lens - not the hologram. ------------- BTY Viscaria FL 88g | DHS H3 BS 2.1 41 x DianChi | BTY Tenergy 64 |
Posted By: Nasche
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 3:07am
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Mine should arrive soon, let's see how it looks like.
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Posted By: Nasche
Date Posted: 05/05/2016 at 2:50pm
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Here is it, 86g.   |
Posted By: proSpin
Date Posted: 05/05/2016 at 3:13pm
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Not the latest one. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52684&KW=kenet&PID=649009&title=feedback-prospin#649009" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: LonelyKid
Date Posted: 05/05/2016 at 3:39pm
| Personally I still prefer the carbon lens. The hologram lens is just too boring. |
Posted By: Ownage Table Tennis
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 1:19am
| I bought one from proSpin, should arrive today. Will post pictures soon. |
Posted By: Johnny.d.p
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 2:48am
   I forgot to take photos before I glued on my rubbers but here's mine anyway------------- BTY Viscaria FL 88g | DHS H3 BS 2.1 41 x DianChi | BTY Tenergy 64 |
Posted By: Ownage Table Tennis
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 3:27am
Arrived just now. Here are the pictures.   |
Posted By: garwor
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 4:19am
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It becoming like in apparel industry, every year new variation... ------------- http://stonitenis.rs/equipmentreviews" rel="nofollow - Equipment database Yinhe MC-2 FL fh: Xiom Vega pro bh: Xiom Vega pro Boycott Marcos Freitas for hidden services! |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 8:37am
I think it because of fakes |
garwor wrote:Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 9:05am
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Question related to Ownage's blade pic. Scaly koto on the left, regular koto on the right. I see a lot of that in the BTY ALC blades. Jointed plies??? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 9:48am
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I think it's just random in the wood, not a joint. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 10:04am
I ain't no carpenter (far from my having any such tangible skills) but doesn't scaly koto result from a slightly different kind of a cut? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 10:19am
It depends on how the original piece of wood was cut from the tree (orientation of the cut). Trees are made of tissue layers. Among other things, joints in the dimension you are implying are illegal according to ITTF. Butterfly is not going to violate that. (The one time they made a mistake similar to that, with the Kreanga ULC, they removed it from the market very quickly, but they have been making ALC blades with that grain pattern since 1993). "The blade, any layer within the blade and any layer of covering material or adhesive on a side used for striking the ball shall be continuous and of even thickness." [emphasis added] One of my blades is like that. When I look at it very closely under a magnifying glass, there is no sign of a visible joint. |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 05/06/2016 at 11:27am
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I think the Kreanga blade issue is that it was coated, while the rules state that it must be wood on the surface. I don't read continuous as a constraint of a unique piece of material, but rather that it must be the same material and plane. From some standpoint, ALC isn't continuous, it's woven fibres. I'm fairly certain manufacturers do sometimes use different pieces of woods for the same ply (core, surface) for lower end blades. I've observed some grain going in opposite direction on a YEO, suspicious lines on the face of a Donic blade, or what seemed to be a core made of two pieces, looking at the side of the blade. |
Posted By: guillem
Date Posted: 05/13/2016 at 8:10pm
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I agree with almost all of you about almost everything, but I can't seem to undestand why any of you haven't realized about one thing... Please take a look at the orientetion of the handle plies... Yes those characteristic patern colours (2 greys 2 whites and one blue un the middle). If you take a close look you will realize that the new Viscarias have those plies perpendicular to the blade itself and the previous models had them parallel. Today I have bought one brand new with "P" letter in the serial number that even comes with the new packaging and also has the same back plastic lens (Arylate-Carbon) but I've realized the change in the orientation of the handle plies. Having said that I don't know if I have to be scared about my extreme freakish obsession with Viscarias (I own like almost 20 I think) or about your lack of attention to (obvious) details. See you!!! |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 05/13/2016 at 8:40pm
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Because everyone knows about that change for like http://www.pingpang.info/bbs/dv_rss.asp?s=xhtml&boardid=2&id=604318&page=11" rel="nofollow - over a year already. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/13/2016 at 9:41pm
No, the wood has to be continuous. You are right, the problem with the Kreanga was the coating, and my writing wasn't very clear. The point I was trying to make is that they once made an illegal blade and quickly had to take it back off the market. Btfly is not going to make a blade that runs afoul of ITTF rules again! In any case, a blade can have that appearance without the top being discontinuous. |
Posted By: guillem
Date Posted: 05/14/2016 at 4:02am
Not in this forum as far as I'm concerned, since nobody hasn't said nor has referred to this link you have yet. I dare you post any similar information, written or visual, published in this forum that provides the same information that you claim everybody knows. In that case you will be right and I won't, otherwise you are utterly wrong.
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Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 06/24/2016 at 5:59pm
I was thinking about this type of grain. Do you think it's one piece of wood? Thinking naively about where the grain comes from (concentric layers of the trunk), I can't visualise how this can naturally happen. Would you know?  More pictures on Cornilleau's page: http://www.cornilleau.com/en/products/blade/gatien/conquest-off/" rel="nofollow - Cornilleau Gatien Conquest OFF . |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/24/2016 at 9:42pm
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Maybe that top slice was cut right where a branch is coming off? Just a guess. |
Posted By: berndt_mann
Date Posted: 06/25/2016 at 9:39am
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I learned my lesson, paid the price, And bought a new Viscaria. The new design Just suits me fine Like an old Italian aria. (or ZJK's sports car-i-a) The wood's continuous, The feeling sinuous, Like the wood on O'Malley's bar-i-a. I paid through the nose; That's okay, I suppose, 'Cuz now I play like a star-i-a. ------------- bmann1942 Setup: Mark Bellamy Master Craftsman blade, British Leyland hard rubber |
Posted By: guillem
Date Posted: 06/25/2016 at 6:19pm
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