Nittaku FastArc Series; Light Rubbers
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Topic: Nittaku FastArc Series; Light Rubbers
Posted By: Chewy
Subject: Nittaku FastArc Series; Light Rubbers
Date Posted: 06/09/2016 at 11:08am
Hello everyone!
Some questions regarding the Nittaku FastArc series, P, G, C, S.. May I know which is hardest to softest? I would like to know more options for a medium feel FH rubber and soft feel BH rubber. And most importantly, light weight rubbers! I did read about the Nittaku Fastarc being light, are there any rubbers as light?
I do not necessarily need ESN or Tenergy rubbers. And if there is something similar but lacking the "boost/catapult" effect from Tensors. I'm fine with it.. as I know I cannot have best of both worlds.
I prefer spin to speed. But it does not have to be really tacky like chinese rubbers. With my playstyle, I am unable to bring out the best in Chinese rubbers anyway..
I consider Tibhar EL-P, Andro Rasant medium feel rubbers. And FX-P and Tenergy FX rubbers soft feel rubbers.
Anything lighter? FastArc good choice? Tensor light-weights exist? Heard about the Donic Acuda series.. but not sure how light is light. Therefore using the Fastarc as a benchmark for now.
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Posted By: caratoon
Date Posted: 06/09/2016 at 11:21am
I bought a fastarc s1 recently and it's pretty good. Really fast but I really wish there was more spin. But for my backhand side I couldn't find a really big weakness in the rubber. It feels rather medium-hard to me but I assume that it will get softer after I break it in some more.
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/09/2016 at 11:26am
Hey Caratoon,
Thank you. S1 = Medium to Hard based on your experience. What about weight? Is it light? Compared to ESN/Tenergy rubbers? Or just a slight difference?
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 06/09/2016 at 12:19pm
if you want something without "boost/catapult" effect and lightweight try Focus III snipe. very light and very cheap
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Posted By: igorigor
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 1:01am
Fastarc series is made by ESN
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Posted By: Knuckle Ball
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 2:23am
Fastarc S1 is probably one of the fastest rubbers out there, faster than the Calibras IMHO. Good for blocking, smashing and driving play. I consider S1 medium hard. Fastarc G1 is really nice and generates great spin. Not soft nor hard more around medium.
------------- Blade: Rosewood NCT V FH: Dignics 05 Black BH: Moristo SP Red
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 5:18am
@ Pilgrim, ok will check it out. I wonder if there really any power in those ultra light rubbers. Like Stiga Innova? And the one you mentioned Snipe 3.
@ igor, aww man.. The only reason I'm afraid with ESN rubbers is the weight. Unless Fastarc is a lighter ESN? Or are there really light weight ESNs?
@ knuckle ball, thank you. At least I now know that the G1 is softer than the S1. Is the G1 softest of the lot? Sounds like a compatible BH rubber. How do you find the weight of the Fastarc series? Normal? Light?
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Posted By: igorigor
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 6:05am
Chewy wrote:
@ Pilgrim, ok will check it out. I wonder if there really any power in those ultra light rubbers. Like Stiga Innova? And the one you mentioned Snipe 3.
@ igor, aww man.. The only reason I'm afraid with ESN rubbers is the weight. Unless Fastarc is a lighter ESN? Or are there really light weight ESNs?
@ knuckle ball, thank you. At least I now know that the G1 is softer than the S1. Is the G1 softest of the lot? Sounds like a compatible BH rubber. How do you find the weight of the Fastarc series? Normal? Light?
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About weight:
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 7:23am
From Nittaku Spec. Speed P1 = S1 > C1 > G1 Spin G1 > P1 = C1 > S1 Hardness P1 = G1 > C1 = S1 Throw Arc G1 > P1 = C1 > S1 Throw Distance S1 = P1 > C1 > G1 Pip Size G1 = C1 > P1 = S1 Pip Gap S1 > P1 > G1 = C1
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 7:47am
@igor , may I know where did you get the table? A link perhaps? Curious bout the other rubbers too.
@Turbo, turbo you sir are a lifesaver. Thank you! Couldn't figure out the catalogue as it was in Japanese!
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Posted By: igorigor
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 3:44pm
Chewy wrote:
@igor , may I know where did you get the table? A link perhaps? Curious bout the other rubbers too.
@Turbo, turbo you sir are a lifesaver. Thank you! Couldn't figure out the catalogue as it was in Japanese! |
http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database/" rel="nofollow - http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database
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Posted By: Knuckle Ball
Date Posted: 06/10/2016 at 9:01pm
Chewy wrote:
@ Pilgrim, ok will check it out. I wonder if there really any power in those ultra light rubbers. Like Stiga Innova? And the one you mentioned Snipe 3.
@ igor, aww man.. The only reason I'm afraid with ESN rubbers is the weight. Unless Fastarc is a lighter ESN? Or are there really light weight ESNs?
@ knuckle ball, thank you. At least I now know that the G1 is softer than the S1. Is the G1 softest of the lot? Sounds like a compatible BH rubber. How do you find the weight of the Fastarc series? Normal? Light?
| yep lighter than most of my rubbers.
------------- Blade: Rosewood NCT V FH: Dignics 05 Black BH: Moristo SP Red
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Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 06/11/2016 at 12:52am
I must be the only one out there that thinks S1 is soft. I'd bottom out on it on every backhand hmm
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/11/2016 at 2:15am
While browsing, I also found the TSP Agrit rubbers to be fast and light. Thanks guys, the list and comments really helped.
The S1 is advertised as soft though...
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Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 06/11/2016 at 2:20am
gekogark1212 wrote:
I must be the only one out there that thinks S1 is soft. I'd bottom out on it on every backhand hmm | I would call it medium-soft (similar to Vega Europe) and definitely softer than G1. I initially liked it but after a couple of weeks it got softer and I didn't like to anymore.
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/11/2016 at 4:04am
I think the majority of you are pretty fast players. The bulk seem to prefer harder sponges.
I had a Xiom Omega IV I think.. somehow I didn't like it at all. Was quick and all but I just can't produce as much spin on it... My friend tried it too and said the same. Or maybe it's just us..
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Posted By: xujinjiang99
Date Posted: 06/11/2016 at 10:29pm
S1 is the softest and lightest, C1 is pretty soft too. I personally don't feel a big difference between the two.
G1 is the hardest and pretty heavy.
I like the strong grip of the FastArc rubbers. Putting G1 on forehand and S1/C1 on backhand might be a good idea:)
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Posted By: Knuckle Ball
Date Posted: 06/12/2016 at 5:50am
@chewy Opppssss my mistake, my G1 is harder more spin and heavier than S1. Somehow I forgot as I don't use them much. I like my G1 for FH or BH, while I have trouble finding a suitable blade for my S1, simply to fast for me.
------------- Blade: Rosewood NCT V FH: Dignics 05 Black BH: Moristo SP Red
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 06/12/2016 at 9:21am
Haha no worries Knuckle... Had the list from Turbo earlier. At least we can know all agree that the S1 is indeed soft.
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Posted By: Malex
Date Posted: 06/25/2016 at 1:41am
Hello, FastArc G1(Max) weight is 51g, Hard topsheet and sponge ( comparing Hexer, Tenergy), good spin, moderate speed, moderate catapult. Flyatt Hard(Max) - weght 44g, thin and soft topsheet, medium sponge. Very good backhand rubber. Moderate spin and good speed.
------------- Malex
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