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Topic: Qiu Dang
Posted By: Hataw Na
Subject: Qiu Dang
Date Posted: 09/09/2016 at 1:25am
Does anyone knows what Qiu Dang is using?
Blade and Rubbers.

TIA


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Hataw lang ng hataw!
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RPB - Bty Tackfire D 2.1 mm Blk



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Posted By: jk92
Date Posted: 08/09/2017 at 9:12pm

It looks like he is using Tenergy on a Zhang Jike blade?

I was surprised actually his technique is not Jpen but chinese penhold, with an interesting grip and wrist technique,


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Posted By: HuLimei
Date Posted: 08/10/2017 at 4:05am
I love how his shirt says "shakehands"


Posted By: zhijie
Date Posted: 08/10/2017 at 6:58am
Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

I was surprised actually his technique is not Jpen but chinese penhold, with an interesting grip and wrist technique,
That's because his father, Qiu JianXin (the coach standing in the video) is a cpen specialist Smile but without the rpb.  


Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 06/20/2022 at 4:30pm
how many more wins will it take for butterfly to name a blade after him? LOL


Posted By: Twiddler
Date Posted: 06/20/2022 at 4:36pm
He uses Dignics 09C for the rubber.


Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 06/21/2022 at 5:43am
innerforce alc + both sides 09C


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 06/21/2022 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:


It looks like he is using Tenergy on a Zhang Jike blade?

I was surprised actually his technique is not Jpen but chinese penhold, with an interesting grip and wrist technique,


Qiu played RPB jpen and his father played bundesliga against samsonov and grubba ,He was Cpen SP single sided. trained mizutani and maze


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 06/21/2022 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

innerforce alc + both sides 09C

From the Lima Contender, the handle of his blade looks like a specially made INN layer alc.


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Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/21/2022 at 10:56pm
Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now. 
Best penhold player outside china


Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 06/22/2022 at 1:54am
Officially the best penhold player in the world and I think he would give a good game to anyone in China as well. 

Amazing to think that he achieved all this whilst not even focussing on the game full time whilst finishing high school. 


Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 06/22/2022 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

innerforce alc + both sides 09C
he plays with inner? i thought outer


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 06/22/2022 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Officially the best penhold player in the world and I think he would give a good game to anyone in China as well. 

Amazing to think that he achieved all this whilst not even focussing on the game full time whilst finishing high school. 



Better then XX?


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 06/22/2022 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Officially the best penhold player in the world and I think he would give a good game to anyone in China as well. 

Amazing to think that he achieved all this whilst not even focussing on the game full time whilst finishing high school. 



Better then XX?

He took Liang Jingkun 7 games at WTTC.  Granted, a few others (Calderano, Pitchford) did as well, but that is not easy and it isn't a given that Xu Xin is that much better at this stage of his career.


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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 06/22/2022 at 7:22pm
I like Qiu Dang, he's humble and his strokes just look so pleasant and stylish haha

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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 1:58am
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Officially the best penhold player in the world and I think he would give a good game to anyone in China as well. 

Amazing to think that he achieved all this whilst not even focussing on the game full time whilst finishing high school. 



Better then XX?

Meant 'officially' in the sense of WTT ranking. But I'd think he ought to have a good chance against Xu Xin in their current forms.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 6:18am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now. 
Best penhold player outside china

Overrated by your biased standard against WCT. Be consistent.   

In 53 encounters with CNT, WCT has defeated once XX(out of 11) and LJK(out of 5), and 5 CNT players in his junior days.
In 13 encounters with CNT, Qiu Dang has defeated once Xue Fei(out of 2) and Zhao Zhaoyan(out of 1).

Even in the same age segment(~26), WCT had already run into the CNT 36 times.

Also look up their records against Japan and Korea, you would notice Qiu Dang has run into so few of them as well, despite being just 5 years younger. 38(14W) vs 62(34W) for Japan, 14(6W) vs 61(29W) for Korea. Other than Mizutani and(WCT beat him once at Asian Cup 2016) Togami, WCT has defeated everyone on the current JNT. Other than Cho Daeseong and Kang Dongsoo, WCT has defeated everyone on the current KNT.

For Germany, WCT is 21(9W). Other than Boll and Ovtcharov, he has defeated Fejer-Konneth, Franziska, Filus, Duda, et al.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 9:42am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now. 
Best penhold player outside china

Overrated by your biased standard against WCT. Be consistent.   

In 53 encounters with CNT, WCT has defeated once XX(out of 11) and LJK(out of 5), and 5 CNT players in his junior days.
In 13 encounters with CNT, Qiu Dang has defeated once Xue Fei(out of 2) and Zhao Zhaoyan(out of 1).

Even in the same age segment(~26), WCT had already run into the CNT 36 times.

Also look up their records against Japan and Korea, you would notice Qiu Dang has run into so few of them as well, despite being just 5 years younger. 38(14W) vs 62(34W) for Japan, 14(6W) vs 61(29W) for Korea. Other than Mizutani and Togami, WCT has defeated everyone on the current JNT. Other than Cho Daeseong and Kang Dongsoo, WCT has defeated everyone on the current KNT.

For Germany, WCT is 21(9W). Other than Boll and Ovtcharov, he has defeated Fejer-Konneth, Franziska, Filus, Duda, et al.

In his junior days? Wink
That is history.
GOOD analysis nonetheless. So both of them have similar winning % against Korean and Japanese players.

judging by recent results against top ranked players, most people would say Qiu is a better player than Wong right now. Qiu has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

No mention of Qiu Dang beating Ovtcharov, Calderano, Kallberg, Gauzy recently ? A few days ago he beat Dima 4:3 at the Lima Contender Final, someone whom Wong has never beaten in his career. Qiu Also made the singles final of another 2 events recently,  hence the big climb in his ranking. Would Wong beat these players with his current standard of play ? I highly doubt it.  When was the last time Wong won a singles title? A decade ago.?  Wong has been so bad in the last 4, 5 years that he exited
most ittf tournaments in the 1st or 2nd round. To say he was Overrated was an understatement.






Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 2:57pm
Same with Qiu Dang's abysmal record against Hong Kong. His last encounter was a 0-4 against Ho Kwan Kit in 2018. Look it up. As you mention, that is history, which is why I didn't mention it.

I'm using your biased standard against WCT for Qiu Dang here, by cherry picking countries against which he performed poorly, but the difference here is that China, Germany, Japan and South Korea happen to be the top 4 finishers at Rio 2016 and Tokyo 2020.

A decade ago? C'mon. You never look it up, do you? The ONLY time WCT won a World Tour in singles was at Czech Open 2015, where he beat Yoshimura in the final, Gauzy in SF, LSS in QF, Hielscher in R16, Oshima in R32, and Liventsov in R64.

Now that we're comparing titles, let me know when Qiu Dang has achieved this much now that his seeding will get him deep in the draw, who's already past the age of WCT when the latter earned most of these:
MS:
QF at WTTC 2017, 1-4 LSS while playing on one leg
Bronze at World Cup 2016, 4-2 Monteiro in R16, 4-0 LSS in QF, 1-4 XX in SF, 4-1 K. Karlsson in 3rd place match
Bronze at Asian Cup 2016, 3-0 Achanta, 0-3 ZJK, 0-3 LSS in group, 4-2 Mizutani in QF(he actually beat him this once), 2-4 ZJK in SF, 4-2 Gao Ning in 3rd place match
Winner at Czech Open 2015, 4-0 Liventsov in R64, 4-2 Oshima in R32, 4-1 Hielscher in R16, 4-3 LSS in QF, 4-1 Gauzy in SF, 4-2 Yoshimura in F
Finalist at Spanish Open 2015, 4-0 Sakai in R64, 4-2 Smirnov in R32, 4-0 Kim Minhyeok in R16, 4-3 Niwa in QF, 4-3 Matsudaira in SF, 0-4 Yoshimura
MD:
Finalist w/ Ho Kwan Kit at WTGF 2018, 2-3 JWJ/LJH
Winner w/ Ho Kwan Kit at Hong Kong Open 2018, 3-0 Morizono/Oshima
Finalist w/ Ho Kwan Kit at WTGF 2017, 3-4 Morizono/Oshima
Finalist w/ Ho Kwan Kit at Swedish Open 2017, 1-3 FZD/XX
QF w/ Ho Kwan Kit at WTTC 2017, 3-4 FZD/XX
Bronze w/ Ho Kwan Kit at ATTC 2017, 0-3 FB/ZY
Winner w/ Ho Kwan Kit at Slovenia Open 2016
Winner w/ Tang Peng at Russian Open 2014
Winner w/ Tang Peng at Australian Open 2014
Winner w/ Tang Peng at Spainish Open 2014
Winner w/ Jiang Tianyi at German Open 2012
XD:
Finalist w/ DHK at WTT Contender Zagreb 2022, 0-3 Harimoto/Hayata
Winner w/ DHK at Hungarian Open 2020, 3-2 Franziska/Solja
Winner w/ DHK at Australian Open 2019, 3-0 LSS/JJH in SF, 3-1 Mizutani/Ito in F
Winner w/ DHK at Korea Open 2019, 3-1 XX/LSW
Finalist w/ DHK at China Open 2019, 1-3 LYJ/CIC
Winner w/ DHK at WTGF 2018, JWJ/Cha Hyo Sim in F, Morizono/Ito in SF, CCA/CIC in QF
Bronze w/ DHK at WTTC 2017, 3-4 CCA/CIC in SF
Bronze w/ DHK at WTTC 2015, 1-4 XX/Yang Haeun in SF

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=80179&PID=996287&title=2017-austrian-open-09-1909-24#996287" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=80179&PID=996287&title=2017-austrian-open-09-1909-24#996287
Quote He played exceptionally well at the WTTC, reaching the QF in MS and MD and SF in XD, almost beating the eventual Champion in the MD and going the distance in the XD. I felt he took on too much burden for team Hong Kong, which was later https://web.archive.org/web/20170608082124/hk.apple.nextmedia.com/sports/art/20170605/20044490" rel="nofollow - confirmed by LGD in a local newspaper.

People can't really ask too much of him. He didn't turn pro until 18, too late even by European standard. He comes from a grass-root family. He didn't have as much access to quality training. He was not a prospect in the eyes of the HKTTA. I've only recently found out Zheng Puifeng started out late as well and didn't take part in sports school and still made it to the CNT. It's been years and he doesn't even get his fair share of international exposure. What's more, both are penholders. I can't appreciate enough how they struggle and still try their best. I've already seen enough people given up on their dreams.


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

GOOD analysis nonetheless. So both of them have similar winning % against Korean and Japanese players.

judging by recent results against top ranked players, most people would say Qiu is a better player than Wong right now. Qiu has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

Similar winning percentage? You are in denial. 14/38=36.8% vs 34/62=54.8% for Japan and 6/14=42.8% vs 29/61=47.5% for Korea. The more Qiu Dang runs into China, Japan, and Korea as a top 10 now, the harder it will get to keep that percentage up.

Nobody is arguing who is better now. The issue is that by your standard, both players should be overrated.

By the same token, Harimoto is overrated, http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91514&PID=1125021&title=2022-wtt-doha-events-03-1331#1125021" rel="nofollow - which Harimoto has admitted in a recent interview .

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91776&PID=1127644&title=wtt-contender-zagreb-2022-lima-2022-6-1319#1127644" rel="nofollow - Same deal with Moregard after finishing 2nd both at WTTC 2021 and Europe Top 16 Cup 2022, who has been losing left and right to lower ranked players, 2-3 Duda in R32(40 vs 14 before Singapore Smash), 2-3 Gacina in R32(47 vs 15 before WTT SCT Doha), 1-3 Franziska in QF(12 vs 5 before WTT CT Zagreb).

Similar trajectory for Jorgic, who has been losing left and right as well after Singapore Smash, 0-3 An Jaehyun in R16(45 vs 12 before WTT CT Doha), 0-3 Xue Fei in R32(140 vs 11 before WTT SCT Doha, let's give him a pass here), 1-3 Gnanasekaran in R32(34 vs 6 before WTT CT Zagreb).

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 6:01pm
hehe, had been busy and only saw the usual biased postings  from JW


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 6:07pm
saw the final against DO today - dramatic match.  can't say Qiu's style is very exciting - I guess whatever works.


Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now. 
Best penhold player outside china

Overrated by your biased standard against WCT. Be consistent.   

In 53 encounters with CNT, WCT has defeated once XX(out of 11) and LJK(out of 5), and 5 CNT players in his junior days.
In 13 encounters with CNT, Qiu Dang has defeated once Xue Fei(out of 2) and Zhao Zhaoyan(out of 1).

Even in the same age segment(~26), WCT had already run into the CNT 36 times.

Also look up their records against Japan and Korea, you would notice Qiu Dang has run into so few of them as well, despite being just 5 years younger. 38(14W) vs 62(34W) for Japan, 14(6W) vs 61(29W) for Korea. Other than Mizutani and Togami, WCT has defeated everyone on the current JNT. Other than Cho Daeseong and Kang Dongsoo, WCT has defeated everyone on the current KNT.

For Germany, WCT is 21(9W). Other than Boll and Ovtcharov, he has defeated Fejer-Konneth, Franziska, Filus, Duda, et al.

In his junior days? Wink
That is history.
GOOD analysis nonetheless. So both of them have similar winning % against Korean and Japanese players.

judging by recent results against top ranked players, most people would say Qiu is a better player than Wong right now. Qiu has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

No mention of Qiu Dang beating Ovtcharov, Calderano, Kallberg, Gauzy recently ? A few days ago he beat Dima 4:3 at the Lima Contender Final, someone whom Wong has never beaten in his career. Qiu Also made the singles final of another 2 events recently,  hence the big climb in his ranking. Would Wong beat these players with his current standard of play ? I highly doubt it.  When was the last time Wong won a singles title? A decade ago.?  Wong has been so bad in the last 4, 5 years that he exited
most ittf tournaments in the 1st or 2nd round. To say he was Overrated was an understatement.



You conveniently leave out the fact that Ovtcharov is just returning from a major injury and surgery which had him out for almost a year, both him and Calderano are not currently playing in any leagues, Pitchford and Gauzy are on major downturns in their career, and none of China was entered in this tournament, and most of the big guns were at the tournament in Zagreb that was being held simultaneously. 

When did WCT ever play in world tour events with this weak of a competition? Did WCT ever have a road to a championship that was comprised of the formidable foes of.... Hayate Suzuki, Kay Stumper, Ryoichi Yoshiyama, Kang Dongsoo, and then finally a hobbled and recovering Dima, who he barely squeaked by?

Be honest, you hadn't even heard of half of those players before that week.


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 10:40pm
Mr Zeio is making Wct look better than he is by listing all the doubles and mixed doubles achievements. LOL.

Only singles titles should count. 

Do people take doubles and mixed doubles titles, quarter finals and semi finals appearances into consideration when  arguing who is the greatest tennis player of all time between Federer, Jokovic and Nadal ?  NO, they only count the number of singles titles they have won

Wong chun ting has only won 1 singles title in his career And that was 7, 8 years ago.
Qiu Dang has won 2 singles titles and he is 5 years younger than Wong. 


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/23/2022 at 11:11pm
When did WCT ever play in world tour events with this weak of a competition? 

Yes Wct did play tour events even weaker than this one  in Lima and he didn't win anything. A good example is the Australian open back in 2004 which Predominantly the Singaporeans ( minus Gao Ning ) and Australians participated. He lost to our William Henzell  in the quarter final 4:2 .  

Did WCT ever have a road to a championship that was comprised of the formidable foes of.... Hayate Suzuki, Kay Stumper, Ryoichi Yoshiyama, Kang Dongsoo, and then finally a hobbled and recovering Dima, who he barely squeaked by?

Can Wct beat all the players you mentioned above right now ? He will lose to one of the Japanese at least, he will lose to a hobbled Dima, he will lose to Kang Dongsoo ( whom he already lost to when he was a top 10 player) 




Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/24/2022 at 4:45am
Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Wow, Dang is  ranked no 10 in the world now. 
Best penhold player outside china

Overrated by your biased standard against WCT. Be consistent.   

In 53 encounters with CNT, WCT has defeated once XX(out of 11) and LJK(out of 5), and 5 CNT players in his junior days.
In 13 encounters with CNT, Qiu Dang has defeated once Xue Fei(out of 2) and Zhao Zhaoyan(out of 1).

Even in the same age segment(~26), WCT had already run into the CNT 36 times.

Also look up their records against Japan and Korea, you would notice Qiu Dang has run into so few of them as well, despite being just 5 years younger. 38(14W) vs 62(34W) for Japan, 14(6W) vs 61(29W) for Korea. Other than Mizutani and Togami, WCT has defeated everyone on the current JNT. Other than Cho Daeseong and Kang Dongsoo, WCT has defeated everyone on the current KNT.

For Germany, WCT is 21(9W). Other than Boll and Ovtcharov, he has defeated Fejer-Konneth, Franziska, Filus, Duda, et al.

In his junior days? Wink
That is history.
GOOD analysis nonetheless. So both of them have similar winning % against Korean and Japanese players.

judging by recent results against top ranked players, most people would say Qiu is a better player than Wong right now. Qiu has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

No mention of Qiu Dang beating Ovtcharov, Calderano, Kallberg, Gauzy recently ? A few days ago he beat Dima 4:3 at the Lima Contender Final, someone whom Wong has never beaten in his career. Qiu Also made the singles final of another 2 events recently,  hence the big climb in his ranking. Would Wong beat these players with his current standard of play ? I highly doubt it.  When was the last time Wong won a singles title? A decade ago.?  Wong has been so bad in the last 4, 5 years that he exited
most ittf tournaments in the 1st or 2nd round. To say he was Overrated was an understatement.



You conveniently leave out the fact that Ovtcharov is just returning from a major injury and surgery which had him out for almost a year, both him and Calderano are not currently playing in any leagues, Pitchford and Gauzy are on major downturns in their career, and none of China was entered in this tournament, and most of the big guns were at the tournament in Zagreb that was being held simultaneously. 

When did WCT ever play in world tour events with this weak of a competition? Did WCT ever have a road to a championship that was comprised of the formidable foes of.... Hayate Suzuki, Kay Stumper, Ryoichi Yoshiyama, Kang Dongsoo, and then finally a hobbled and recovering Dima, who he barely squeaked by?

Be honest, you hadn't even heard of half of those players before that week.

 
Yeah,  blame the injury whenever you lose a match, very  handy excuse. 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/25/2022 at 3:19am
Are you shitting me? You know better than even the players themselves?

WCT and DHK have expressed multiple times since 2018 they were turning their focus to the XD and MT/WT events, which is supported by the stats.

https://www.hktta.org.hk/cgi-bin/display/news.cgi?news=1928" rel="nofollow - https://www.hktta.org.hk/cgi-bin/display/news.cgi?news=1928
Quote 今屆乒乓球賽事不設雙打,變相令黃鎮廷只需出戰男打、混雙及男團賽事,他指對後兩項賽事的信心較大,「單打也會搏的,但始終重心會在混雙及團體。」


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Quote 杜凱琹�£�充謂,她都以混雙為重,其次則期望團體賽爭取理想的名次。至於單打方面,由於亞運�£度可說與世界賽接近,要期望抽得好籤才能交出成績。


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Quote 黃、杜二人雖將重心放在混雙,但亦要分別參加單打及團體賽事,奧運時有機會一日三賽,但兩人稱已特別加長訓練時間去準備。黃鎮廷坦言自己目前單打排名不高(2021年7月為第19位),無疑會影響男單的抽籤結果,所以對於單打也是「一步一步來」。


https://www.sportsroad.hk/archives/339651" rel="nofollow - https://www.sportsroad.hk/archives/339651
Quote 日前混雙失利貌似未有影響其發揮,杜凱琹在訪問時卻言心仍在痛:「落敗一刻感到心碎,因為東京奧運前的備戰放了重心在混雙,做了許多準備,當日其實有點振作不起來。」


But let's cherry pick the singles again. I know you hate WCT, but lying about him? Below is what you posted in 2018. I was busy subbing videos back then. It's over 4 years late, but let me expose your lies once and for all.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81396&PID=1016094&title=team-world-cup-2018-london-2-2225#1016094" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81396&PID=1016094&title=team-world-cup-2018-london-2-2225#1016094
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Maharu and mizutani are actually leading wct in head to head. Wct and Niwa are level in head to head.

Yes, he seems to enjoy playing Japanese players more. This is probably due to the lack of power on their strokes which enabled him to counter tospin in mid court.

However, even against 2nd tier Europeans like Shiebaev, Karlson, Pitchford, Calderano, Freitas, Flore, Gauzy, he would lose most of the time. Hey, He even lost to a 17 year old American ranked 90 in the world.


vs Shibaev, 1-0 until 2018, 1-1 after 2019


Since there were 2 Karlsson until 9/2018,
vs then M. Karlsson, 3-0 until 2018, 3-2 after 2019


vs K. Karlsson, 4-2 until 2018, never met after


vs Pitchford, never met until 2021, 0-1


vs Calderano, 0-1 until 2018, never met after


vs Freitas, 0-1 until 2018, 1-1 after 2019


vs Flore, 3-0 until 2019, never met after


Vs Gauzy, 3-0 until 2019, 4-1 after 2020


Hey, LYJ even lost to that 17-year-old American at YOG 2018, 7 months after your post. The same fate befell Harimoto as well 3 months ago. Where were you hiding?



Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Mr Zeio is making Wct look better than he is by listing all the doubles and mixed doubles achievements. LOL.

Only singles titles should count. 

Do people take doubles and mixed doubles titles, quarter finals and semi finals appearances into consideration when  arguing who is the greatest tennis player of all time between Federer, Jokovic and Nadal ?  NO, they only count the number of singles titles they have won

Wong chun ting has only won 1 singles title in his career And that was 7, 8 years ago.
Qiu Dang has won 2 singles titles and he is 5 years younger than Wong. 


-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/25/2022 at 4:03am
At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/25/2022 at 4:35am
Yes, players like Lyj, Hugo, Harimoto have all lost to lowered ranked players. But their upsets rarely happen and they beat low ranked players most of time. The same can't be said about WCT .  First round exit to a low ranked player has been a norm for Wct in the last 4, 5 years. DON'T get me started on listing the dozens of low ranked players Wct has lost to in the last 4, 5 years. It's a long list.

The regularity which Wct lose to low ranked players a few years ago suggested to me he was Overrated as a top 10 player. He is ranked 24th right now which is where he rightfully belongs. He put most of his focus on doubles right now because he knows his level of play rarely trouble players like Dima, Hugo, Kallberg, Boll,   LYJ and Harimoto.


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/25/2022 at 4:46am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.

Most people would disagree with you. Ito & Hayata are the 2 best players in Japan right now. 

Hirano has been figured out by the Chinese since her Asian championship victory. Hirano & Kasumi's  Winning % against the Chinese  has been pathetic in the last 4, 5  years. On the other hand,  Ito & Hayata has been the greatest threats to the Chinese in the last few years. They have the best winning ratios against cnt players (out of all Japanese players). 
Their high rankings are fully justified in my opinion.


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 06/26/2022 at 8:24am
LYJ at YOG is totally different...

The SF defeat, was already a ticket to go home.

3/4 place playoffs has always been very difficult
That match, LIN didn't even have his mind there, and Lin that time was not a super star/top level player yet.

So no idea why someone is even taking a baby Lin of 2018 into context
Lin really only blossom afterwards.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 1:14am
I feel like starting a petition to have your name changed to amberheard23. After getting exposed as a chronic liar all these years, amberheard23 gives me this "DON'T get me started on listing" crap? I have no time for more lies.

First round exits? Fine. Let's go cherry picking yet again. These players below are around the same age and were top 10-20 and seeded at various times during the Olympic cycles of Rio 2016 and Tokyo 2020.

WCT happens to have had the least first round exits over the years, despite turning his focus on the XD and MT between 2018 and 2021.

Niwa, despite a few years younger, has had the most first round exits. 6 in a row in 2019. He lost more singles matches than he won in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 while being ranked in the 10s.

Senior events of ITTF World Tour(no WTGF)/Challenge or WTT events(no WTT Cup Finals) only. R32/R64 could be the first round of main draw in World Tour until 2016, so both are counted. Qualification round, group and post group qualication round are indicated in the breakdown list.

R32+R64 only
LSS 30+16=46
Niwa 34+11=45
JYS 32+8=40
Falck 19+14=33
WCT 20+11=31

Round/stops that year
LSS
2008 R32 1/4=25%, R64 1/4=25%
2009 R32 2/4=50%, R64 1/4=25%
2010 R32 2/7=28%, R64 1/7=14%, Grp 1/7=14%
2011 R32 3/7=42%, R64 1/7=14%
2012 R32 2/6=33%, R64 2/6=33%
2013 R32 2/6=33%, R64 4/6=66%
2014 R32 1/7=14%, R64 4/7=57%, Grp 1/7=14%
2015 R32 4/11=36%, R64 1/11=9%
2016 R32 2/8=25%, R64 1/8=12%
2017 R32 2/4=50%
2018 R32 2/9=22%
2019 R32 5/11=45%, QR32 1/11=9%
2020 R32 1/1=100%
2021 R32 1/3=33%

Niwa
2009 R32 3/6=50%, R64 3/6=50%
2010 R32 1/6=16%, R64 3/6=50%, Post Grp QR 1/6=16%, Grp 1/6=16%
2011 R32 5/10=50%, R64 2/10=20%, Post Grp QR 1/10
2012 R32 1/7=14%
2013 R32 0/5=0%
2014 R32 3/8=37%, R64 2/8=25%
2015 R32 3/7=42%
2016 R32 3/9=33%, R64 1/9=11%
2017 R32 2/9=22%
2018 R32 5/10=50%
2019 R32 6/12=50%
2020 R32 1/3=33%
2021 R32 1/1=100%

JYS
2009 R32 1/4=25%, R64 1/4=25%, Post Grp QR 1/4=25%, Grp 1/4=25%
2010 R32 2/7=25%, R64 1/7=14%, Grp 1/7=14%
2011 R32 5/8=62%, R64 1/8=12%, Grp 1/8=12%
2012 R32 2/7=28%, R64 2/7=28%, Grp 2/7=28%
2013 R32 4/6=66%, R64 1/6=16%
2014 R32 5/7=71%, R64 1/7=14%
2015 R32 2/10=20%, R64 1/10=10%
2016 R32 2/8=25%
2017 R32 2/4=50%, Q Last Rnd 2/4=50%
2018 R32 3/10=30%, Q 2nd Last 2/10=20%, Grp 1/10=10%
2019 R32 3/9=33%, QR32 1/9=11% QR128 1/9=11%
2020 R32 1/1=100%
2021 R32 0/1=0%

Falck
2009 Grp 1/3=33%
2010 R64 2/4=50%
2011 R64 4/6=66%
2012 R32 1/9=11%, R64 3/9=33%
2013 R64 1/6=16%, Grp 4/6=66%
2014 R32 1/6=16%, R64 2/6=33%, Post Grp QR 2/6=33%
2015 R32 3/11=27%, R64 2/11=18%, Post Grp QR 3/11=27%
2016 R32 2/5=20%, Q 2nd Last 1/5=20%
2017 R32 3/6=50%
2018 R32 2/9=22%
2019 R32 3/8=37%
2020 R32 1/2=50%
2021 R32 2/3=66%

WCT
2010 R64 1/4=25%, Post Grp QR 2/4=50%, Grp 1/4=25%
2011 R32 1/6=16%, R64 2/6=33%, Grp 3/6=50%
2012 R32 1/9=11%, R64 4/9=44%, Post Grp QR 1/9=11%, Grp 3/9=33%
2013 R32 1/9=11%, R64 3/9=33%, Grp 3/9=33%
2014 R32 3/9=33%, R64 1/9=11%, Grp 1/9=11%
2015 R32 2/10=20%, Post Grp QR 1/10=10%
2016 R32 0/8=0%
2017 R32 2/6=33%
2018 R32 4/8=50%
2019 R32 4/12=33%, QR32 1/12=8%
2020 R32 2/3=66%, QR128 1/3=33%
2021 R32 0/1=0%

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 1:20am
Tony, please refrain from using logic in this thread. You're to adhere to amberheard23's biased standard and cherry pick as much as possible to make the player you hate look as bad as possible, by lying first and if it gets exposed, moving the goal post.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 1:41am
In before amberheard23.

To sum up:
Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED
Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(2/2017), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 2:36am
Yeah, cherry pick stats to make wct look like an elite player. 
I was not the only we could see he was overwhelmed / overrated as a top top 10 player, so according to your logic  there are many liers here. LOL


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 2:42am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

In before amberheard23.

To sum up:
Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT
Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(7/2017), best penhold player outside CNT, OVERRATED


If Dang is not the best penhold player outside China right now,  who is it then ? He Zhi WEN ? Felix Lebrun ?

Dang has a much better record than Wong in the last 2 years. Say what you like but right now Dang fully deserves his high ranking. Look at the players he has beaten in the last few months- Dima, Kallberg, Hugo. Can Wong beat any of these guys ? 
To be honest, I don't think Wong can even beat the Lebrun brothers right now. He is that bad.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 3:13am
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1127838&title=qiu-dang#1127838" rel="nofollow - Nobody is arguing who is better now. The issue is that by your standard, both players should be overrated. If you claim one player as the best penhold player outside CNT now, you should've claimed the other as the best pendhold player outside CNT then, but you never did, and instead you lied about H2H and first round exit.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 3:20am
Indeed he has a losing head to head record against most top 10 players. He also had many first, second round exits when he was a top 10 player, where is the lie ?


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/28/2022 at 3:40am
Keep moving the goalpost, amberheard23.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 06/29/2022 at 4:53am
Qiu Dang has become the new German Champion.

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Nittaku Goriki 94gr, dignics 09 max, super do knuckle, 1,4mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/29/2022 at 5:05am
https://youtu.be/fR-LM3wc0ts?t=21" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/fR-LM3wc0ts?t=21
Ovtcharov had to pull out after an infection. Will he be there for the European Summer Series?

https://spotmysports.com/ovtcharov-drops-out-because-of-an-infection/" rel="nofollow - https://spotmysports.com/ovtcharov-drops-out-because-of-an-infection/
Quote “I feel totally weak and also a bit feverish,” said the two-time Olympic bronze medalist after his 4-1 win against Moritz Spreckelsen (TSV Schwarzenbek), “I’m really sorry.”
...
“I came back from my second place at the WTT Lima Contender with a bad cold and had thrown up on the plane,” said Ovtcharov. “Unfortunately, it hasn’t gotten any better over the week.” He “simply didn’t want to risk aggravation with this strong infection”.


-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/29/2022 at 5:29am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.


Most people would disagree with you. Ito & Hayata are the 2 best players in Japan right now. 

Hirano has been figured out by the Chinese since her Asian championship victory. Hirano & Kasumi's  Winning % against the Chinese  has been pathetic in the last 4, 5  years. On the other hand,  Ito & Hayata has been the greatest threats to the Chinese in the last few years. They have the best winning ratios against cnt players (out of all Japanese players). 
Their high rankings are fully justified in my opinion.

You gotta spend more time on Tieba.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791706026?pid=143737116492&cid=0#143737116492" rel="nofollow - https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791706026?pid=143737116492&cid=0#143737116492
Quote 应该不会吧,伊藤可是奥运金牌,平野是世界冠军还是单项,早田还没有

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791473492?pid=143735817402&cid=143738741262#143738741262" rel="nofollow - https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791473492?pid=143735817402&cid=143738741262#143738741262
Quote 平野人家也是有世界冠军头衔的,她目前是日本女队唯一一个单打冠军的头衔吧,但是成绩还是比不上伊藤。

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7883402835?pid=144474492331&cid=0#144474492331" rel="nofollow - https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7883402835?pid=144474492331&cid=0#144474492331
Quote 伊藤第一(奥运会冠军)
平野第二(世界杯冠军,亚锦赛冠军)

Quote 其实我觉得是伊藤平野石川。伊藤拿了第一枚奥运金牌,平野创造了大赛突破我国选手的记录(平野一串三之后,才出现了伊藤瑞公德公串三串二的多次记录,回看这段不禁感慨,陈梦算得上知耻而后勇吧),石川女左不但混双拿牌,还奠定了日本女团女双的稳定基础。


-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 06/29/2022 at 11:31am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

In before amberheard23.

To sum up:
Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED
Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(2/2017), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED


I bet amberheard23  is jackwong23


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 06/29/2022 at 11:34am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.


hayata will never get the tittles ishikawa won, so overrated ugly style


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 1:53am
Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.


hayata will never get the tittles ishikawa won, so overrated ugly style

You don't have any clue, mate. 
Kasumi has won 9 singles titles in a 15 years long career.
Hayata has already won 6 career singles titles in a relatively short 5 years career. 

If it weren't  for the Covid pandemic in the last 2, 3 years which restricted participation,  she would have surpassed Kasumi by now. 

She is also 8 years younger than Kasumi and playing at a higher level than Kasumi right now. Not to mention Hayata's much superior winning % against the Chinese players in the last few years. 




Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Tony, please refrain from using logic in this thread. You're to adhere to amberheard23's biased standard and cherry pick as much as possible to make the player you hate look as bad as possible, by lying first and if it gets exposed, moving the goal post.


You spent too much time watching TV - the amber heard trial lol

I know Lin in person, so stop using a stupid example now of Lin and sit down


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.


hayata will never get the tittles ishikawa won, so overrated ugly style

You don't have any clue, mate. 
Kasumi has won 9 singles titles in a 15 years long career.
Hayata has already won 6 career singles titles in a relatively short 5 years career. 

If it weren't  for the Covid pandemic in the last 2, 3 years which restricted participation,  she would have surpassed Kasumi by now. 

She is also 8 years younger than Kasumi and playing at a higher level than Kasumi right now. Not to mention Hayata's much superior winning % against the Chinese players in the last few years. 




I've witnessed Hayata training a few times in person (obviously the rest of the Japanese womens were there too).
From a coaches angle, Hayata really does train with all her heart. Clearly shows a lot of effort when the camera isn't focusing.

Irrespective of Hayata's results, her training effort has my respect.


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

In before amberheard23.

To sum up:
Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED
Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(2/2017), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED


I bet amberheard23  is jackwong23


and it seems like no matter what forum, derailing of the topic has a common denominator
 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

You spent too much time watching TV - the amber heard trial lol

I know Lin in person, so stop using a stupid example now of Lin and sit down


You are totally missing the point. Stay out of this.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

You spent too much time watching TV - the amber heard trial lol

I know Lin in person, so stop using a stupid example now of Lin and sit down


You are totally missing the point. Stay out of this.


You the one started your nonsense with me, and you now want me to stay out of it?
Why don't you just ignore what I say, and YOU can stay out of it.

Any ways, I don't have much time to entertain you, I check this place like once a week or so now.
I really don't understand how you always have so much time to be stuck to a computer.






Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 06/30/2022 at 1:15pm
Just go back to TTD.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632" rel="nofollow - https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632
Quote Zeio would flood the forum with translated China material - very good stuff I must say. I don't have time to transalte and Zeio did many big favours.

Where have these guys move on to, maybe I should join them. TTD is boring


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 3:37am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Just go back to TTD.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632" rel="nofollow - https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632
Quote Zeio would flood the forum with translated China material - very good stuff I must say. I don't have time to transalte and Zeio did many big favours.

Where have these guys move on to, maybe I should join them. TTD is boring


I give credit where it is due.
You do provide good contents

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 6:18am
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Just go back to TTD.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632" rel="nofollow - https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632
Quote Zeio would flood the forum with translated China material - very good stuff I must say. I don't have time to transalte and Zeio did many big favours.

Where have these guys move on to, maybe I should join them. TTD is boring


I give credit where it is due.
You do provide good contents

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Yes, exactly. ZApenholder.



Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 7:00am
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?23600-Why-are-there-restrictions-for-pips-out-rubbers&p=370332&viewfull=1#post370332" rel="nofollow - Pot meets the kettle ? Just go back there.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 9:40am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?23600-Why-are-there-restrictions-for-pips-out-rubbers&p=370332&viewfull=1#post370332" rel="nofollow - Pot meets the kettle ? Just go back there.


I missed your valid post, but then I saw your stupid arguments with mods and cry baby attitudes.

Your arguments every where with ever one just looks like a small child trying to seek attention.
I thought after few years, you would have matured some what.
Back then I really thought you were a teenage kid, today you still seem like one.


Any ways, I'm not here to stir nonsense, so find someone else to argue with.

If you want to talk about Lin, meet me in Taipei and we can see go see him in person.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 12:00pm
Still barking up the wrong tree. I couldn't care less about your friendship with Lin, but get to know http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=85892&PID=1067617&title=2019-china-open-may-28june-2#1067617" rel="nofollow - who jackwong23 is if you haven't already. He's been a chronic liar and flamer with http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75826&PID=936723&title=2016-australian-open-jun-812#936723" rel="nofollow - multiple sock puppet accounts .

The way you jumped the gun at me for what you think as badmouthing LYJ without being in the loop is just immature in my eyes as well, for crying out loud.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?23600-Why-are-there-restrictions-for-pips-out-rubbers&p=370332&viewfull=1#post370332" rel="nofollow - Pot meets the kettle ? Just go back there.


I missed your valid post, but then I saw your stupid arguments with mods and cry baby attitudes.

Your arguments every where with ever one just looks like a small child trying to seek attention.
I thought after few years, you would have matured some what.
Back then I really thought you were a teenage kid, today you still seem like one.


Any ways, I'm not here to stir nonsense, so find someone else to argue with.

If you want to talk about Lin, meet me in Taipei and we can see go see him in person.

Zeio is a 60 year old fart but behaves like an  immature teenager. LOL


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them.
Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?23600-Why-are-there-restrictions-for-pips-out-rubbers&p=370332&viewfull=1#post370332" rel="nofollow - Pot meets the kettle ? Just go back there.


I missed your valid post, but then I saw your stupid arguments with mods and cry baby attitudes.

Your arguments every where with ever one just looks like a small child trying to seek attention.
I thought after few years, you would have matured some what.
Back then I really thought you were a teenage kid, today you still seem like one.


Any ways, I'm not here to stir nonsense, so find someone else to argue with.

If you want to talk about Lin, meet me in Taipei and we can see go see him in person.

Zeio is a 60 year old fart but behaves like an  immature teenager. LOL
yes, you are one to speak of this.  Don't make me laugh.


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT.

You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126440&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126440" rel="nofollow - facts .

Back in May, you claimed Hayata was " http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1126309&title=2022-t-league-individual-tournament-8-1314#1126309" rel="nofollow - vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan ". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.


hayata will never get the tittles ishikawa won, so overrated ugly style

You don't have any clue, mate. 
Kasumi has won 9 singles titles in a 15 years long career.
Hayata has already won 6 career singles titles in a relatively short 5 years career. 

If it weren't  for the Covid pandemic in the last 2, 3 years which restricted participation,  she would have surpassed Kasumi by now. 

She is also 8 years younger than Kasumi and playing at a higher level than Kasumi right now. Not to mention Hayata's much superior winning % against the Chinese players in the last few years. 




I've witnessed Hayata training a few times in person (obviously the rest of the Japanese womens were there too).
From a coaches angle, Hayata really does train with all her heart. Clearly shows a lot of effort when the camera isn't focusing.

Irrespective of Hayata's results, her training effort has my respect.

No clue. What it matter is records in worlds and OG. Protour is kids playground. See niwa performance in big tournaments being destroyed 10  0 to dima.


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 6:27pm
Is this a thread dedicated to Qiu Dang ?



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Nittaku Goriki 94gr, dignics 09 max, super do knuckle, 1,4mm


Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 07/01/2022 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Is this a thread dedicated to Qiu Dang ?
No, it's a pissing contest.


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Stiga ALL 2000 '76; DHS H3 Neo 2.1, Dr. Neubauer ABS2 2.3

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 07/04/2022 at 2:20am
Since when has this thread been dedicated to Qiu Dang? It started out about his equipment, did not receive the first reply for almost 1 year and was abandoned for almost 5 years.

Either way, in http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91776&PID=1128263&title=wtt-contender-zagreb-2022-lima-2022-6-1319#1128263" rel="nofollow - his latest interview , he states that he uses TB ALC custom, D09C on FH and D05 on BH.

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/04/2022 at 4:06am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Since when has this thread been dedicated to Qiu Dang? It started out about his equipment, did not receive the first reply for almost 1 year and was abandoned for almost 5 years.

Either way, in http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91776&PID=1128263&title=wtt-contender-zagreb-2022-lima-2022-6-1319#1128263" rel="nofollow - his latest interview , he states that he uses TB ALC custom, D09C on FH and D05 on BH.

The title of this thread is: QIU DANG........If I read well.


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Nittaku Goriki 94gr, dignics 09 max, super do knuckle, 1,4mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 07/04/2022 at 4:24am
Is the following a thread dedicated to Ryoichi Yoshiyama? It's just a thread asking about his equipment. Same as this one.
http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/topic91918_page1.html#1127629" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/topic91918_page1.html#1127629

It takes much more than just a name in the title of a thread to be dedicated to a player. Check out the following.
FZD
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/249555647/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227239hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/249555647/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227239hNsizJ
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/269037716/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227869hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/269037716/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227869hNsizJ
XX
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/250558499/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227759hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/250558499/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227759hNsizJ
ZJK
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/265702956/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227869hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/265702956/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227869hNsizJ
WCQ
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/243736007/?_dtcc=1&_i=69229529hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/243736007/?_dtcc=1&_i=69229529hNsizJ
WMY
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/251194761/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227919hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/251194761/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227919hNsizJ
SYS
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/264911795/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227679hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/264911795/?_dtcc=1&_i=69227679hNsizJ
Next generation
https://www.douban.com/group/topic/269934153/?_dtcc=1&_i=69229499hNsizJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/269934153/?_dtcc=1&_i=69229499hNsizJ

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/04/2022 at 5:15am



If the name of a thread is "qiu Dang", then it has to be dedicated to Qiu Dang otherwise it is called "trolling". That seems obvious , at least to me.....That means evrything in the thread must be related to Qiu Dang :matches, equipment, selections, injuries, style of play, improvment....but certainly not to Ishikawa or WCT results in his career.

But it seems you are a person who always wants to be right and have the last word, wathever the conversation and, as I don't have a lot of time to waste (because I have to work), let's say you are right.



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Nittaku Goriki 94gr, dignics 09 max, super do knuckle, 1,4mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 07/04/2022 at 5:27am
That made me chuckle. Check out my thread about Pitchford. It was more than just about Pitchford.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/his-name-is-liam-pitchford_topic83368.html" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/his-name-is-liam-pitchford_topic83368.html

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g



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