New Equipment 2017
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Topic: New Equipment 2017
Posted By: AndySmith
Subject: New Equipment 2017
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 5:19am
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Here we go again. Another new equipment thread to mark the passing of time as we creep closer towards our eventual death. Happy new year! Rubber Andro Rasanter V42 Andro Rasanter V47 Andro Rasanter R37 Andro Rasanter R42 Andro Rasanter R47 Andro Rasanter R50 Butterfly Rozena Cornilleau Drive Intense Cornilleau Pilot Pulse Cornilleau Start'UP Evo DHS Gold Arc 5 (ESN!) DHS Gold Arc 8 (ESN!) Donic Blue Storm Z1 Donic Blue Storm Z2 Donic Blue Storm Z3 Gewo Hype KR Pro 47.5 (pink sponge) Gewo Proton Neo 475 ITC Powercell P5 Joola Axxess Joola CWX (lp) Joola Golden Tango Joola Rhyzer 48 Joola Rhyzer 43 Mizuno GF R Mizuno Q3 Nexy Karis H Nittaku Factive (ESN) Sanwei A+ Semi-sticky Sanwei T88-Taiji Plus Sanwei T88-Taiji 2017 Sanwei Target Europe 40+ Turbo Tibhar Aurus Prime Tibhar Aurus Select Tibhar Speedy Soft XD (sp) TSP Spinpips Blue TSP Spinpips Red TSP Ventus Basic Xiom Omega VII Euro Xiom Omega VII Pro Xiom Vega Intro (ESN) Yasaka Valmo Yasaka Rigan Yinhe (Galaxy) Big Dipper 2 Blades Arbalest Horsa Arbalest Stock (looks a lot like a Keyshot Light copy) Arbalest Thor 6.0 Butterfly SK7 Classic Butterfly SK Carbon Cornilleau Hugo Calderano Foco Off+, 5-ply, 85g Cornilleau Hugo Calderano Foco Off-, 5-ply, 85g Cornilleau Simon Gauzy Quest OFF (5 ply) Cornilleau Simon Gauzy Quest ALL+ (5 ply) Darker Liberta Willow DHS Hurricane 301 DHS Power G5 (PG-5) Donic Balsa Carbo Fleeze Donic Balsa Carbofibre Donic Dyjas Ultra Power ( http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/dstore/Hoelzer/37349/DONIC-Dyjas-Ultra-Power.html?sid=1" rel="nofollow - http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/dstore/Hoelzer/37349/DONIC-Dyjas-Ultra-Power.html?sid=1 ) Gewo Alexander Waluch (Made in Germany) Gewo Königsklasse Off 5 (Made in Germany) Gewo Königsklasse Karbon Seiben (Made in Germany) Joola Nobilis Pro C Joola Solja Off- Joola Solja Off+ Joola Zelebro Pro C Juic Perseus 5ply, OFF- Juic Cabriolet I-NP (5w+2carbon), OFF Juic Cabriolet F (5w+2c), OFF+ Mizuno Fortius FT5 Mizuno Fortius FT Light Mizuno Fortius FT Ver.D Nexy Cakra Nexy Arche Nittaku Ataras Nittaku Bloodwood Nittaku Ma Long 7 Nittaku Negia D Nittaku Revofusion MF C Nittaku Revofusion MF J Nittaku S-series S-7 Nittaku S-series S-CZ Nittaku S-series S-5 Nittaku Septear Carbon Nittaku WG-5 Nittaku WG-Carbon Nittaku Winglight Sanwei Fextra Sanwei Dynamo Sanwei A9 Soulspin Roots 8 Zylon Carbon Soulspin Roots 9 Zylon Carbon Speed Soulspin Roots 7 Defensive Control 7 Stiga Arctic Wood Tibhar Cedric Nuytinck Tibhar Kinetic Speed TSP Complite W TSP Euro Power Off TSP Euro Feeling Off- TSP Euro Classic All+ TSP Gaia II TSP Japiel II TSP Multu II Victas Firefall HC Victas Koki Niwa Victas Yuto Muramatsu Xiom Feel AX Xiom Feel HX Xiom Feel HX Pro Xiom Feel S7 Xiom Feel SX Xiom Feel ZXI Xiom Feel ZXII Xiom Feel ZXIII Xiom Musa Euro Xiom Musa Asia Xiom Zeta Allround Yasaka Alnade Yasaka Sweden Guardian Yinhe M 102 Yinhe M 202Yinhe M 901 Yinhe PLC Yinhe Balsa 10 Yinhe Balsa 9 Yinhe Def 9
Yinhe Def 10 Yinhe Def 11 ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
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Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 10:03am
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Andy, is there a physically smaller version of the Victas offensive blade? ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 1:07pm
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http://imgur.com/a/G0FfA ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 5:14pm
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If needing a goat, cry for a bull. Those speedy rubbers are wrecking the game. 
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 11:12am
Any link to these Victas Blades?? ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
AndySmith wrote:Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 11:36am
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I couldn't find anything on the Victas blades, but I did find that the Yasaka Alnade seems to be a Viscaria clone (koto ALC from the catalogue). I also found out that they managed to sign Liang Jingkun. Generally, it would be great to give links along with the new items names. http://www.yasakajp.com/wp-content/uploads/yasaka2017.pdf" rel="nofollow - Yasaka 2017 catalogue |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 1:02pm
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Victas blades are on Yu's blog: http://world-tt.com/blog/yu/" rel="nofollow - http://world-tt.com/blog/yu/ |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 2:01pm
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The Victas Koki Niwa comes with 2 layers of fleece carbon, on top of 2 layers of aramid carbon, making it (the 1st ever?) 5+2+2 blade. The price tag is also nothing short of shocking, for a Made-in-China model. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 4:42pm
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Far from the first, most attacking blades by Victas have this composition, and so do the Xiom Quad blades (V1, Zetro). The Koki Niwa blade seems to be a thicker, faster version of the Quartet AFC he's been using since his move to Victas. It's 5.7mm up from 5.5mm. |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 01/09/2017 at 6:51pm
 ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 01/13/2017 at 3:41am
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Firefall HC. Those ridiculus BEE-HIVE weaving pattern interest me. Maybe it is shorted for Hive Carbon ??? ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 01/13/2017 at 11:56am
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Sponge of Hammond Power ? https://www.facebook.com/100x100PingPong/photos/pb.673690612646317.-2207520000.1481860536./1530330320315671/?type=3 ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: MAR_PL
Date Posted: 01/16/2017 at 4:23pm
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+ Rubber TSP Ventus Basic + Blades TSP Complite W TSP Gaia II TSP Japiel II TSP Multu II Nittaku S-series S-7 http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-7 Nittaku S-series S-CZ http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-cz Nittaku S-series S-5 http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-5 |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 1:38am
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Blade: Nittaku Septear Carbon ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 4:56am
Wow. That just turned me on ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 5:37am
Sadly, no cpen version of septear carbon yet  ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 5:54am
Hmmm. Thornton's have posted on facebook that they have Stiga Mantra in stock. The picture shows the topsheet and there is a resemblance to Karis (with the visible pips making lines).
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 6:00am
Sorry Mr K, I've only just seen this! Not that I know of, but it's all-wood so just take it to your mad scientist lab and chop bits off it.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 6:01am
Made in Germany...
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Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 7:57am
It's funny how the name "mantra" sound so lame when you're from india. ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 8:02am
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Nice but not made in Japan and not inexpensive. I would save my money for better blades with more soul. The blades were made by soulspin. The quality of the blades itself are acceptable but they do not have the knowhow and intuition of doing blades with good handle constructions. Just mass merchandise like most of them. I thought they were building blades for your own needs. I wanted to order some time ago a special blade. All they said was, we can't build it like you want- you have to take our meassurements-and all that stuff for over 100 - 200 euro ? That is to me not really serious. Just taking money for nothing special. I'd rather buy a classical butterfly blade which has a real foundation. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 10:13am
You are obsessed, but I'll humor you. Have you used the S-series?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 10:28am
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Mantra and karia are both made by daiki in japan. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 10:34am
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Interesting information Yogi. Armed with that information, I have learned they make rubber for lots of people. Stiga, some Tibhar, and many others. Apparently they can make thousands of different variations and they work with each individual company to come up with a rubber design. http://daikirubber.jp/ https://www.facebook.com/daikirubber/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE From Google translations of Japanese from their Facebook page, I think it says that Daiki makes Airoc, calibra, vari spin, Vario, Agrit, and Rize, and also that they have been working with "a company from Korea", which I assume is Nexy. Clearly, they can make a lot of different rubbers. One thing I take from this is that two rubbers made by this company may be very different from each other. So Mantra could well be quite different from Karis -- or it could be somewhat similar. For now I am happy with Karis, so will wait for other more EJ minded people to compare. |
Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 11:21am
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I have thought that something like this is happening many years now. And that's why when I was crazy EJ, I had been came through the same rubbers from different brands. But I got really suspicious when stiga brought out airoc, then I saw bluefire and lastly....I saw from photos the rubber of tsp which is made in japan, regalis, which is exactly the same like the stiga airocs. But I cannot judge from photos, I say about regalis only because of what I saw in photos. ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 11:41am
Bluefire, no - that's 100% ESN. But Airoc, Regalis, Alhelg (the original one, not the recent ones with the chinese sponges - not sure about those), Samba 19/27, ITC Powercell, Karis - yes. All variations on a theme.
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Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 11:54am
Heard that all these shrink harshly and smell pretty bad when the packages are opened...might be manufacturer-boosted. ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:06pm
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I never wanted to try a blade which is made by soulspin but nevertheless i tried some time ago a blade called andro ligna tour off+ with ST handle fron a buddy. Very bad for me that blade and also for my friend- he put it away because of the bad feeling and bad handling. He bought him a ALC ST blade which he is using. I saw many trying out those blades made by soulspin like andro Ligna and Donic world champion blades. For me I can see it at first sight if it is worth or not trying out a blade. Believe me I have tried many blades till now, may over 500 and more |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:10pm
We all bow down before your magical super senses. But I note that it's a no - you haven't tried these brand new blades. And I remember your truly crazy rant about SoulSpin because they refused to make you a special handle. I'm not sure that they are the problem.
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Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:17pm
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Yes andy, you are right! ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:31pm
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No my friend, they wanted to do a special blade for around 160 or 170 euro. I don't know exactly how much but I know they just wanted to do it with other dimensions, so what should I do with that blade which not fits me ? Therefore i said no. I dealed some time bevor with Butterfly doing a special blade for me and it happend easy as can be. Soulspin have limits when it comes to make special blade-butterfly doesn't. What a pitty that Butterfly has become very expensive in that area. |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:46pm
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Hi stratara, I thought you were a smart cookie. Why do you get on board to those brainless statements of Andy Smith ? I just told the truth of soulspin and my experiencies of doing a special blade. If you don't believe as an ordinary human being, I can't help you. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:53pm
| Mad as a bucket of frogs. Seek help. |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 1:43pm
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Actually, Butterfly Special Order has of the most limits together with Nittaku's. Asymmetric structures cannot be requested as commercial special order, and the blade dimension is limited to all commercial blades' dimensions, I believe? I don't know about Soulspin but for most customblade makers, e.g. Ross, Singody, TT Manufaktor, DAB blades, the dimension should not be a big problem. Hey Andy, does Butterfly still make Viscaria with chocolate chip on the forehand side and whipped cream on the other?
 I wonder if they have gotten some better packaging since then.------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 2:22pm
This guy's issue was that soulspin wouldn't make him a custom handle, not the head size. Soulspin's approach to blade building is that they have a lot of different handle options for a buyer to select from, shaped by a cnc machine. But they don't do truly custom handles down to the mm, because configuring the cnc machine is a time intensive process and would cost too much. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75226&KW=&PID=929013&title=similiar-to-boll-alc-st-handle#929013" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75226&KW=&PID=929013&title=similiar-to-boll-alc-st-handle#929013 That may sound perfectly sensible to you or I, but after tt-spirit's obsessive demands were declined by soulspin, he now takes every opportunity to knock them as a company, telling people that they won't be satisfied if they use them and that they have no future as a company. Imagine asking for something incredibly specific like that, and then getting so upset that you have to jump on them at every opportunity. I mean, in this very thread he's bashing blades for lack of "soul" that he's never tried.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 2:30pm
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To be honest, that is what it sounds like to me. I have become pretty picky about my handles, but tt-spirit has demands that would not be plausible for anyone except a small custom maker like maybe Mr. Levy in Romania. From what I have seen of Soulspin blades, they are awesome, and NOBODY gives you more flexibility. But even they have limits. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 2:39pm
Absolutely. What amazes me about tt-s is that he chooses to aggro one of the most flexible companies out there, with more handle options than almost anyone, with a progressive approach to sending test boxes out to potential customers. So they don't do custom handles to the mm - so what? Just move on to someone who does, if that's what you absolutely must have.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 7:02pm
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The blades made by Soulspin that I have seen from people who have purchased directly from them are amazing. I have first hand knowledge of their feel and build quality. They build blades for other companies (Donic for ex.) and I don't know if they are responsible for the design, and I have not tried their blades. I certainly lack the secret EJ power to judge just by looking. So Soulspin made a blade you don't like? Remember, Btfly came out with a Kreanga blade that wasn't even legal and that they took off the market a few months later! (It was a terrible blade for other reasons). They brought you the Boll Tricarbon, and a bunch of other losers. Of course Btfly also have created Viscaria and several other blades that would have to be on any objective list of greatest blades ever. Stiga has some of the other all-time greats too. Nobody could dispute that. They have also introduced blades that de-laminate. The problem with Soulspin is they have almost too many choices for handles, so without the test boxes how does one narrow it down? (Also, I am not sure they will send the test box to the US). From time to time I travel to that part of Germany, so I have figured the thing to do is just go there in person and get custom fitted, so to speak, as if it was a suit. I will definitely do that one of these days. By the way, Soulspin offers every blade they sell in three different head sizes! Who else does that? (Nobody). And they don't just allow you to choose handle shapes (including asymmetric handles, which is kind of their specialty) they also give you multiple choices for handle material, so you can adjust overall weight and weight balance. Heavy handles can be chosen reduce head heaviness by selecting a given handle cap made from denser wood. Again, who else lets you do that? (Absolutely nobody). Lack of expertise? The guy who started the company had decades of expertise working for several other blade companies. As for Btfly, I think they have discontinued making special custom blades for ordinary people, unless that has changed in the last couple of months. My results going that route were not happy, but I may not have been specific enough with what I requested from them. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 7:09pm
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Jasonh, I can't speak to any of those rubbers made by the Daiki factory except for Karis. I can compare Karis to some ESN rubbers like MX-P or EL-P. Karis has no smell of booster at all, and it doesn't play at all like a boosted rubber. It domes a little out of the package so I am not going to claim with absolute certainty that it does not have some additive to the sponge, but it it does, it doesn't have any of the usual booster smells. The most notable thing about Karis is the extremely short pips. The topsheet is not shiny, it is a quite dull color. Nicely grippy, though. From the photo Mantra looks like that too, but I don't notice the lines in Karis. Regarding the sponge of Karis, compared to what I have used for the last decade (T05 and MX-P) it has very small pores. Makes it a lot easier to glue down. Very very easy to cut, also. |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 8:45pm
Thanks for the comparison, would you regard Karis as a rubber focusing on spin and control? That's what I am looking for for my backhand rubber. My apologies for the harsh conclusion, some of those I have played or got some feedback from friends are Airoc, Regilis Blue and Flyatt Spin. One mentioned about the bad smell of Regilis Blue, and both Airoc and Regilis do shrink. Flyatt Spin, compared to its predecessors, has shorter pips, too. I haven't seen anyone using Karis yet but sounds pretty awesome. ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 9:25pm
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Definitely a control rubber. Spinny enough. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 11:51pm
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itc powercell mp is also from daiki and similar to karis hard sponge and mantra ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 01/18/2017 at 7:39am
OSP? |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 01/18/2017 at 8:28am
Aliexpress. Their blades are so fake that it´s impossible to get two identical shapes...
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Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 01/18/2017 at 9:25am
ttspirit I didnt say to Andysmith that he is right about your conversation. I said he is right for bluefire, that it is made in europe and not in japan.(if you check the previous posts you will see) You missunderstood my post. So...dont get mad with me  ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/18/2017 at 10:42am
Oops. I'm an idiot.  Yes. OSP and Soulspin. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 01/18/2017 at 7:22pm
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Donic Dyjas Ultra Power (based on Jakub's blade / 7 ply Clipper like) http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/dstore/Hoelzer/37349/DONIC-Dyjas-Ultra-Power.html" rel="nofollow - http://shop.sport-schreiner-tt.de/dstore/Hoelzer/37349/DONIC-Dyjas-Ultra-Power.html ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/19/2017 at 3:01am
Already on the list. |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/27/2017 at 7:47am
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Blades: Xiom Musa Euro Xiom Musa Asia Rubber: Xiom Musa III ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/27/2017 at 10:43am
Good find. Musa III has been out for a while in the asian market, as well as Musa III China. Also, from the xiom.co.jp site, new rubbers: Vega Intro Vega Def Omega II Love (??? A valentine's special perhaps...) Omega II x The blades are interesting: Musa Euro - 7 ply - koto outer - made in korea Musa Asia - 5 ply - limba outer - made in korea Xiom don't make it easy to google their stuff when they keep re-using rubber names for their blades... They also seem to have a Zeta Allround now to go with the Zeta Off and Off+ from last year. Another 5-ply limba, made in china most likely.
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Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 01/27/2017 at 12:25pm
WWWWWWHHHHHHHHAAAAAATTT??????? ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/28/2017 at 1:01pm
Yeah, it could well be a bit of crazy google translate madness there. But I like it regardless.
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 5:07am
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DHS is giving us Gold Arc 5 and 8. Made in Germany and developed with the help of WLQ and Ma Long. Package is very Chinese New Year with a Red and Gold theme. Both have BIOS logo on package but Tensor logo on GA8 only. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 7:11am
That's very surprising! A bold move if true. Any links? Not to worry - I've found them: http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.asp?id=12957 http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.asp?id=12956 Wow, eh? So, GA5 is cheaper (£20-ish), non-tensor, slight confusion on the sponge hardness (pic says 47.5, description says 42.5). GA8 is more expensive (£29-ish), tensor, 47.5 degrees. I guess both are non-tacky?
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 9:09am
Yes they are non-tacky Euro style rubber. GA5 has a choice of 42.5 and 47.5 in hardness. GA8 has 47.5 and 50. They said GA5 is meant for BH and GA8 for both sides. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 9:20am
Well, that's just mega. I've never been able to order from ttshop.cn. Do you know anywhere else with stock? I'll give them a bash.
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 11:26am
Probably only through a taobao agent for now. Hope TT11 will stock it soon. I have not used buychina before but they seems straight forward with clear pricing. http://www.buychina.com/products/544610579819 ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 12:42pm
Awesome. I did try taobao directly but it's hard to search, for obvious reasons. Many thanks for the help!
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 11:58am
| New stuff posted on tt-spin.de from the ispo event added. |
Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 5:59pm
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I am curios about the Joola short pips - much though I find their product and pricing ridiculous. |
Posted By: MAR_PL
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 5:09am
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+ rubber series Andro RASANTER V42, V47, R37, R42, R47, R50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJgQ0Bhxdk&feature=youtu.be |
Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 5:38am
 It's 10th anniversary limited edition of Xiom Omega II rubber. (Omega II was released in January 2007) It's a package, composed of 2 pieces of Omega II, and 2 pieces of rubber protection film.
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Posted By: stanxu
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 10:05am
| Butterfly should release a "Sriver Love" combo containing a Sriver L, a Sriver S and a Super Sriver and sell it for $500. |
Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 5:31pm
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Tibhar MX-K(Not Evolution MX-K) (Edited to avoid confusion) I am a member of the "Table Tennis club HG", largest Korean table tennis community. It is operated by TAK9.com, which is the Korean dealer of Tibhar, Stiga and also the owner of Nexy. The operator TAK9.com mentioned about MX-K(Not Evolution MX-K). Here is a dialogue and translation about it.  He mentioned occasionally unpredictable ball movement of MX-P on his article about Karis as below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (This is a small part of his article) Sometime later, ESN started to produce bubbled sponges as Butterfly did, and Genius of Tibhar became the first release. These bubbled sponge rubbers could work well with hard sponge rubbers, and ESN released many hard rubbers in order to compete with Tenergy. But, like the high-tension rubbers, those hard rubbers had stability problems, e.g., unexpected ball movement. When we adopt a hard topsheet to drive the ball, the rubber tries to hold on as long as possible (upward movement), but in the same time, a hard sponge tries to expel the ball quickly (returning movement). Those two different directions could confuse the final ball movement. So, players experience unexpected ball motion when we play with a hard topsheet + hard sponge rubbers. MX-P is a good example for this phenomenon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 7:09pm
ITC Powercell P5   |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 7:46pm
| Interesting. I wonder if MX-K will be made in Germany or Japan. I am guessing Japan. |
Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 8:07pm
 According to him, MX-K is ESN rubber, while Nexy Karis is Daiki rubber.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 10:01pm
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Interesting again, thanks. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 6:27am
Apologies, the first report on CWX had a typo - they're long pips. Which makes more sense with his name on them.
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Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 8:22am
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I guess there are small typos. Joola Nobilis PBO-c http://www.tischtennis.biz/joola-tischtennishoelzer/pbo-carbon/joola-nobilis-pbo-c.html Joola Zelebro PBO-c http://www.tischtennis.biz/joola-tischtennishoelzer/pbo-carbon/joola-zelebro-pbo-c.html
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Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 11:58am
No worries, I appreciate you started this topic. Equipment is my favourite  |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 1:53pm
So finally Joola decides to get their own ZLC! ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 4:05pm
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Their price is ridiculous. Even 100 EUR would be too much for them. If I recall properly, Solja was using a Zhang Jike ZLC / ALC in the latest WT. It was high time Joola made a move towards making more serious blades but they should practice modesty in terms of pricing They should think about putting together a portfolio of quality rubbers and blades first. I also recall that Pota used some kind of Joola, maybe Xplode on her BH but her FH was T05 during the WT that ended recently. It makes me laugh. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 02/12/2017 at 5:04pm
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Solja uses Rossi Force, not ZJK. But agree about the prices of these blades.. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 2:55am
 ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Saitama
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 3:24am
| where can I get this sk7? |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 4:27am
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Butterfly have a new spring sponge rubber on the way - Rosena. https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/06020.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/06020.html |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 6:17am
Butterfly with the ol' golden shovel, digging up old blades.
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Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 7:26am
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Rozena: According to Bty data, it's a softer (35d) and less spinny Tenergy with more "tolerance" to small errors. And $45 starting price,not 85 or 95. Looks like a successor for Roundell, there must be vast demand for such a rubber among intermediate amateur players. Sounds promising. |
Posted By: danjacob02
Date Posted: 02/16/2017 at 7:51am
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New Tibhar Stuff. Rubbers Tibhar Aurus Prime (47.5 deg)  Tibhar Aurus Select (42.5 deg)  Tibhar Speedy Soft XD (short pips I think) The concept is comparable with the novelties of andro ( Rasanter Belagerreihe ) and Donic (Bluestorm lining series). A thin upper rubber is glued with a thicker sponge (approx. 2.3mm). This is to compensate for the loss of spinning caused by the plastic ball. Blades Tibhar Cedric Nuytinck Tibhar Emmanuel Lebesson Tibhar Kinetic Speed  Source from http://www.tt-spin.de/ispo-story-2017-vorstellung-der-tischtennis-neuheiten-teil-2/ and http://www.tt-spin.de/tibhar-aurus-prime-und-aurus-select/
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/17/2017 at 6:16am
 ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 02/17/2017 at 10:21am
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What does SK represent for? ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/17/2017 at 2:08pm
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Blades: TSP Euro Power Off TSP Euro Feeling Off- TSP Euro Classic All+ Pips: TSP Spinpips Blue TSP Spinpips Red ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 02/17/2017 at 3:07pm
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TSP Euro Power! So TSP is digging out old stuff too.... ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: Chairman Meow
Date Posted: 02/19/2017 at 10:50am
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DHS Goldarc 5 DHS Goldarc 8 These are on the ITTF approved equipment list, and are for sale at the below links I have not seen them anywhere else. They are tensors, and are made in Germany http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=glodarc8" rel="nofollow - http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=glodarc8 http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=goldarc5" rel="nofollow - http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=goldarc5 ------------- -1 ply Cypress 11.5mm "The Castigator" -H3 Prov. Blue Sponge 2.2mm 41 deg. -H3 Prov. Orange Sponge 2.1mm 37 deg |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/19/2017 at 11:14am
Already on the list, discussed on page 2. |
Posted By: Chairman Meow
Date Posted: 02/19/2017 at 12:49pm
Whoops. ------------- -1 ply Cypress 11.5mm "The Castigator" -H3 Prov. Blue Sponge 2.2mm 41 deg. -H3 Prov. Orange Sponge 2.1mm 37 deg |
Posted By: Lee91
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 1:55am
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New Nittaku Products Ataras  Bloodwood  Ma Long 7  Negia D  Revofusion MF C   Revofusion MF J   WG 5  WG Carbon  Winglight  http://nittaku.com/topics/detail.php?id=875" rel="nofollow - http://nittaku.com/topics/detail.php?id=875
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Posted By: Bobpuls
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 8:35am
Or Buy from www.prott.vip http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=glodarc8 http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=goldarc5 ------------- Custom carbon/aramid off FH DHS H8 BH DHS TG 3-60 Custom carbon off++ FH DHS TG2 BS BH DHS TG3-60 National |
Posted By: MAR_PL
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 1:29pm
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Blade: DHS Hurricane 301 http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/marcin84dz/media/c31ca3c4-c899-43ad-9c47-d11a4713cd56_zpsvldzzrlo.png.html" rel="nofollow">  http://www.dhs-sports.com/a94abedb-3967-4770-99ca-d526051499fc/ba958edb-bc83-0a88-b93d-3925b378b169.shtml
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Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 9:31pm
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Is this a HL5 with koto outer??? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 10:35pm
 ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 10:38pm
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waz that, RM? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 10:41pm
301 will cost around $55 ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 10:47pm
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$$$$$$$ I guess eh? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 04/08/2017 at 10:59pm
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Only $55 from what I have seen so far. Priced like the Fang Bo blade ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/09/2017 at 3:35pm
Yeah, perhaps like the Fang Bo 2 with a koto outer. At that price the HL5's overall quality might be missing. Fang Bo 2 is still amazing bang for buck though, so it looks interesting!
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Posted By: Yeusofe
Date Posted: 04/12/2017 at 12:40am
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how yo buy this blade h301 |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 04/12/2017 at 9:02am
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Prott has them http://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=H301 ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 04/12/2017 at 10:43am
Might get this blade after exams :D worth a buy at $55 tbh! ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |