Rubber with low thow angle for BH
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Topic: Rubber with low thow angle for BH
Posted By: plazm
Subject: Rubber with low thow angle for BH
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 4:30am
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I'm using a red sheet of Donic J.O. Waldner (2.0) on my backhand, and, My BH shots tend to go over too much.
I use it with Energywood blade, and I'm lookig for something with lower throw angle than Waldner. Any recommendations on BH rubbers (Jap/Euro type)? or should I just get a thinner sponge? I'm thinking about getting Mendo MP or Ekrips. How are those rubbers compared with Waldner? btw I don't use speed glue. |
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Posted By: silvalis
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 6:01am
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why don't you just adjust your bh? ------------- Potato Face |
Posted By: *JC*
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 6:08am
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easy fix
Aim down a bit more/close the bat. Your getting to much speed and not enough spin. This happens when you switch to faster gear than you can handle usually. Pretty common with people just moving to bryce. close the angle, increase handspeed and you will be set :) ------------- Thats not a knife THIS is a knife. Thats not a knife THATS a spoon. |
Posted By: Thaidog
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 6:14am
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You might want to try Ekrips if you've got a little spare $$$. I agree with JC about Bryce though... closing the angle will help.
------------- Timo ALC FL Tibhar Grip S MAx Tenergy 64 FX National 2.1mm He never boosts... of course he never had to... |
Posted By: agooding2
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 9:14am
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If you're used to short pips on your backhand, pretty much any inverted will tend to go long at first as it will come off your blade at a higher angle than you're used to as the incoming topspin grips the topsheet. The Energy wood may also have a higher throw angle than your Avalox 700. Have you tried the Waldner on your 700 yet? That might also help. Lowest throw angle inverted I've used is Spintech Dynasty. Get the regular version and thin sponge (like 1.8). Ekrips might work or Mendo MP in a thin sponge, but I remember Dynasty as lower angle and they all cost about the same. Later you may want to go back to Waldner or something similar as they'll be easier to use for backhand looping. -- Andrew |
Posted By: mrt4
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 9:14am
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I also agree. Also, mendo mp is a lot harder to control tha jo waldner.
\Robin ------------- Swedish male, playing since 1993. Blade: Timo boll w5 forehand: Tenergy 25fx 2,1 Backhand: Energy absorber 1,6 glue: waterbased!!!! |
Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 3:35pm
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Hi plasm, I use Rosnet air on both sides. It is faster than Juic 999 but Very controlable. It is LOW throw, will loop and keeps the smashes down. Another faster option for Low throw is Hammond Alpha pro. Low throw but less room for errors because of the speed. I can switch between Rosnet Air and Hammond without changing my stroke at all but my consistancy if higher with Rosnet. I have them on carbon/ary bats rated Off +. Also Rosnet on a G10 fiberglass rated Fast. Still have lots of control. I have tried Hammond X and cannot tell the difference from Alpha Pro. The Alpha Pro is cheaper. I dont speed glue. |
Posted By: VictorK
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 3:45pm
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I've always had a preference for "low throw" rubbers on my backhand. The three rubbers that meet that definition I've played with include: Ekrips, Mendo MP and Bryce. ------------- 99% practice 1% equipment 0% ratings |
Posted By: plazm
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 5:57pm
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Thanks all for the advice.
I think I should practice my BH more. I'm used to short pip too much and I cannot be consistent while using 2 kinds at the same time. Later when I have more money, I'll go for other rubbers. also, how is Mark V compared to JO Waldner? |
Posted By: alfie
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 6:09pm
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Personally I think mark v is great for everything except blocking in fact it's the worst rubber I have tried for blocking,never tried JO ------------- Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+ BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
plazm wrote:Posted By: PongPong
Date Posted: 09/12/2006 at 9:03pm
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Guys, he said he does not speed glue. Don't forget the rubbers mentioned need to be speed glued. Why don't you try Donic F1? I do not speed glue either. I used Tibhar Rapid D. Tech on both sides and I had the same problems with the high throw. The backhand can be adjusted as many mentioned. But my FH serve always popped up too high. I switched FH to Donic F1 and now it's much better. These two rubber do not need to be speed glued. |
Posted By: sukraat
Date Posted: 09/13/2006 at 2:19am
| jo waldner the donic version is good but the one made by nittaku sucks so go for donic jo waldner. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/13/2006 at 8:49am
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yasaka v stage has a low throw angle too and also dhs h2 ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: silence
Date Posted: 09/13/2006 at 10:05am
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Rubbers that I have found to have lower throw :
(rubber) (thickness I used) (notes) Mambo 1.9 low throw seems more pronounced on a slow blade or maybe softer. V-Stage 2.0 seems similar but faster I have heard that Bryce,Hammond and Ekrips all have low throw. The mambo had a more noticable low throw on a vsg-1000 than on a firehand. The vsg is a softer blade in my opinion, I originally thought it was because the vsg was slower but after further thought I decided that it was probably because of the firehand being harder. It would probably be really good on a Energy wood. |
Posted By: YATTP
Date Posted: 09/13/2006 at 12:08pm
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The throw angle won't change anything. You are playing pretty much a standard equipment which is certainly good enough for anybody and any kind of stroke.
Here is a nice little rule of thumb that applies pretty often: Look at the hight of the ball when it crosses the net. If you have too much arc (too high), you have to pull the stroke more forward. If the hight is ok but the ball is still too long then you don't have enough spin. You need to train to get a faster hand and better technique. The setups is fine. These are basic problems and only basic training will solve them. |