Don't understand this rubber.

And why the hell it's so expensive?!

You aren't, but the fact that you chose to make this thread instead of "I don't like Donic Bluefire" speaks volumes 

Does anyone actually say that? I don't know, I typically don't read into these discussions too hard. My guess is no, most people use T05 because they like the ease of use and spin/speed production, and don't find it cost-prohibitive to use. You would think that if all the Tenergy defectors were truly happy with their new rubber they would be totally happy and wouldn't find the need to gripe anymore...makes you think. 

You would think that if all T05 users were secure in their decision making that they wouldn't feel the need to pop into "I don't like T05" threads to defend their obviously wobbly position.

Of course I don't really think that - just an example of how silly this kind of argument is.

then don't play with it 

there i said it too

I'm not a Tenergy devotee. 

These T05/alternative threads generally only go one way. T05 gets bashed purely because of its price, plain and simple, then that carries over to performance bashing which is quite frankly, ridiculous. Look at the recent "professional players should not use T05" thread. So what is the reason for this? Are the members of this forum really that altruistic that they want to save random people from the internet 25 bucks every few months? Why do they never preach about how much better Evolution MX-P, value and performance wise, compared to other rubbers? 

And finally T05 is too sensitive to spin. I don´t like it particularly when I receive serves with chiquita stroke.

What if I told you not everybody is so deluded to think that they lost a match because of their rubber?

"To each their own" - as someone wise once said....

It is the sport of preference and feel. I know OP talks about disliking this rubber for its feel/playing characteristics/etc so my first statement is purely about that...

But for all the players that dont/didnt like tenergy for its price but love it for its performance, it can actually save you money in certain situations:

here are my thoughts on this,

If you change rubbers (particularly tenergy alternatives) every 5-6 months for numerous reasons like drop in performance, durability, or simply you want to try the "next new T05 alternative", it might be cheaper to just get tenergy and stick with it a little longer (maybe 8-9 months) to get most out of it. Ofcourse the time numbers may be different for everyone so it depends on how often you play and how fast you wear out the rubber, but in general it should actually save you money.

That being said, after trying some tenergy alternatives and realizing i was changing them too often for numerous reasons I can proudly say Im going back to T05! ~gasp~ 

They do.  People do that about all sorts of rubber.  For me, tenergy was surpassed as an overall product ages ago and I do my best to mention that where appropriate.  But I don't expect that to hold true for everyone.

I think you hear more T bashing because it's at the extreme end of the market.  It's the most used by pros, it's the most expensive.  And some people (not the majority of forum members I should add, but lots out here in the real world) think that pro popularity and highest cost must equal best.

Personally I'm not about saving money - it's about best fit for an individual's game.  Assuming that Tenergy is the best for everyone is what I dislike.  I don't know anything about the thread you mentioned though.  Not sure how anyone who plays at an amateur level can have much of an opinion on what pros should use, just like I'm not sure how anyone can say that tenergy must be the best for them if Boll uses it, or whatever.

Well said and fair enough. I would think that it being the most used by pros might cue some people into the fact that it is a top notch rubber for high level players. That doesn't necessarily apply for the average forum poster, however maybe some of them missed that point. So, when a 1400 player says Tenergy 05 is "too spin sensitive and has no 'gears'", maybe a 1900 player reading this forum gets scared away from using it when in reality the 1900 could be well suited for it. Or, someone finds some reason to bash Tenergy because they paid up and slapped it on their racket and realized it didn't fix the problems with their game. But then they don't have so much regret/expectation when paying 40 for a rubber and thus have a less critical outlook.

Hence, this "pros should not use T05" thread being not only ridiculous but also an indictment on the poster's understanding of the game/equipment. So I guess we're in agreement for the most part 

Totally.

I think the best advice for anyone is always to try things before you buy, if possible.  Keep an open mind.  Think about your level, your needs, and your disposable income.  If tenergy survives that process, then it's the one for you.

I love lower-level players like myself who use tenergy because a slow, spinny loop wins boatloads of points for me.  Higher-level players beat me with anything they decide to use, so they can fill their boots.

However a 6 month ESN is garbage and 05 is still usable& have some grip.

No other ESN/Japanese rubber has the same kind of gears, control and ease access to spin, and not to mention durability as T05.

I m not sure of other tenergies, all my observations are about T05.

There I said it.

(I live in Canada, so yeah, that is tantamount to blasphemy!!!)

FdT

For all your unwanted T05's, Luckyloop and I are running a collection drive. 

Donations will go to the American Red Sponge Society. 

Wanna see a picture of that rubber.

I played with a 3 year old tenergy once that looked barely 1 year old. The guy was using mineral oil (i think) time to time to keep the topsheet from drying out. Still spinned very well.

I've had the same setup now for over 2 years and I plan on keeping it forever.  Tired of switching as it just seems like a waste of time.

My stateside friend sent me a pair black and red for my birthday last year. It's been a year and a half and the T05 is still on my favorite blade. Playing 3-4 times a week 2 hours per session that's durability for you. Love the spin generation on low to medium effort strokes, my BH offense improves immensely. Yep the best offensive rubber for me now that I fully understand what it offers. Best thing yet is . . . . I still have to open the second sheet. 

That's potentially really bad news.  I'm still using my first sheets of R42 and V42 on BH, but I don't need massive grip on that wing so I'm not as likely to feel topsheet wear.  I'll how our local R47 users are feeling when I see them next.

What a shame if true though.  I thought ESN had sorted out the durability last year.

IT's the booster wearing off as it shrinks.

I still regret taking off my initial sheets.  It actually plays better with age.

While they weren't as good as Tenergy 05, I still believe that the Hexer/Baracuda/Genius/Explode generation with natural rubber is the best thing ESN has for non-pros.

I agree with maintenance you can keep it going for ages,spinmax and occasional boost works for me,however I tried a new sheet on my second black balsa 3.0 blade and the speed difference is clear and more than I realised,the topspin are easier with the new sheet,I imagine the older sheet would be better for classic defence