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Topic: If Koki Niwa who invented Block chop shot?
Posted By: lokicha
Subject: If Koki Niwa who invented Block chop shot?
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 1:02am
I have seen koki nowa using the chop block shot a lot!

but curious to know if it is koki niwa only who invented this or is it ma long( seen him playing the shots)

went through below piece of write up and video of koki niwa doing t



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Posted By: obesechopper
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 1:17am
Neither invented it! 

Popularized, perhaps you might argue... 


Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 2:49am
wow....that's just terrible journalism. Zero amount of research it seems....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYf9kSyy2Cw

I doubt Waldner invented the shot, but at least there is the evidence that shows the technique predated Koki Niwa by DECADES!!!

FdT


Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 5:32am
Hahahahaha. Ma Long and Koki Niwa?  Seriously?

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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 5:41am
I thought I invented it! Shocked


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 5:58am
Please stop making posts in which the sole purpose appears to be to direct traffic to another website.

So far every single post you have made does this.  Stop doing it.


Posted By: p1ngp0ng3r
Date Posted: 08/14/2017 at 11:38am
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Please stop making posts in which the sole purpose appears to be to direct traffic to another website.

So far every single post you have made does this.  Stop doing it.


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/15/2017 at 8:06am
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Please stop making posts in which the sole purpose appears to be to direct traffic to another website.

So far every single post you have made does this.  Stop doing it.

He has been doing this also in FB pages.


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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 08/15/2017 at 8:17am
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Please stop making posts in which the sole purpose appears to be to direct traffic to another website.

So far every single post you have made does this.  Stop doing it.

I'd recommend maybe editing the posts so that the links are gone?


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 08/15/2017 at 9:18am
Better if he or it just stops doing it and also this is a good suggestion.

Done!


Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 08/15/2017 at 10:13am
I think Chen Qi did it better than both ML or Koki.


Posted By: larrytt
Date Posted: 08/22/2017 at 10:07am
This morning I http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/2742" rel="nofollow - blogged about the History of Chop Blocks . 
-Larry Hodges


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Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 08/22/2017 at 10:48am
I'm waiting for the article that claims Koki Niwa invented the light bulb.

FdT.


Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 08/23/2017 at 10:55pm
Breaking news...




Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 08/23/2017 at 11:27pm
Isn't this a standard shot for hardbat guys....I would think it would go back to the early days of TT. Perhaps BerndtMann could shed some light on it.

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Posted By: larrytt
Date Posted: 08/23/2017 at 11:38pm
Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Isn't this a standard shot for hardbat guys....I would think it would go back to the early days of TT.

I wrote about this in my blog yesterday. 
http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/2742
-Larry Hodges


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Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 08/24/2017 at 7:03am
Originally posted by larrytt larrytt wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Isn't this a standard shot for hardbat guys....I would think it would go back to the early days of TT.

I wrote about this in my blog yesterday. 
http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/2742
-Larry Hodges
Thanks Larry but I think there is a youtube video with Marty Reisman (sp?) and someone from his era 40's (I am guessing at the decade here) or earlier demonstrating how they used to do it. So I am thinking it goes way before the the time you are mentioning in your article. 


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Posted By: larrytt
Date Posted: 08/24/2017 at 8:10am
Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by larrytt larrytt wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Isn't this a standard shot for hardbat guys....I would think it would go back to the early days of TT.

I wrote about this in my blog yesterday. 
http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/2742
-Larry Hodges
Thanks Larry but I think there is a youtube video with Marty Reisman (sp?) and someone from his era 40's (I am guessing at the decade here) or earlier demonstrating how they used to do it. So I am thinking it goes way before the the time you are mentioning in your article. 
I wrote, "During the hardbat era, this was quite common, as players often chop-blocked." The hardbat era started in the 1920s, long before Reisman became a top player in the late 1940s.
-Larry Hodges


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Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 08/26/2017 at 11:52am
Originally posted by larrytt larrytt wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by larrytt larrytt wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Isn't this a standard shot for hardbat guys....I would think it would go back to the early days of TT.

I wrote about this in my blog yesterday. 
http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/2742
-Larry Hodges
Thanks Larry but I think there is a youtube video with Marty Reisman (sp?) and someone from his era 40's (I am guessing at the decade here) or earlier demonstrating how they used to do it. So I am thinking it goes way before the the time you are mentioning in your article. 
I wrote, "During the hardbat era, this was quite common, as players often chop-blocked." The hardbat era started in the 1920s, long before Reisman became a top player in the late 1940s.
-Larry Hodges
Ok, guess I got confused with the all the names you mentioned in your article were from the 70's and 80's and later. 


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