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Replies: Posted By: HuLimei
Date Posted: 08/30/2017 at 11:43pm
This looks quite challenging to do.
STEP 1: Be a Fatass. STEP 2: ...
Posted By: man_iii
Date Posted: 08/31/2017 at 2:42am
TPB used as RPB Not sure if this will be stable with C-pen. Most likely the J-pen exclusive stroke. All due to that inch-high wall on the handle.
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 08/31/2017 at 4:13am
It was invented some 35 years ago by Mariano Lukov. He used this shot to beat the multiple All Japan Champion Kiyoshi Saito at the WC.
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Posted By: berndt_mann
Date Posted: 08/31/2017 at 5:48pm
HuLimei wrote:
This looks quite challenging to do.
STEP 1: Be a Fatass. STEP 2: ...
That fatass has one ridiculously dangerous looking traditional j-pen rpb, and his forehand isn't too shabby either. He has obviously gone at least as far as step 3 into turning a traditional j-pen backhand into a weapon of mass destruction.
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Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 08/31/2017 at 8:33pm
His TPB is able to lift underspin (1:18)
It is something like this
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Posted By: HuLimei
Date Posted: 09/01/2017 at 1:45am
berndt_mann wrote:
That fatass has one ridiculously dangerous looking traditional j-pen rpb, and his forehand isn't too shabby either. He has obviously gone at least as far as step 3 into turning a traditional j-pen backhand into a weapon of mass destruction.
Unfortunately I don't know the 2nd or 3rd step. Maybe you can ask the "professionals" hanging out here
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 09/01/2017 at 1:43pm
This is the guy who first employed the jpen backhand topspin at the highest level in the 80s. He still uses it with great success as you can see at 18s below:
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Posted By: Antuan
Date Posted: 09/01/2017 at 6:04pm
liulin04 wrote:
Unbelievable... ย These Japanese players sure are innovative
I really like Hirano Noboyuki's style ๐๐๐
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Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 09/01/2017 at 10:06pm
Would these really qualify as RPB ?
I would have thought they are all TPB but with ingenious innovation and refinement of the now famous banana.
Mr Loukov, as posted, uses the RPB Jpen but it nothing extra ordinary but I agree completely; it is a very powerful stroke.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 5:11am
penholderxxx wrote:
Would these really qualify as RPB ?
I would have thought they are all TPB but with ingenious innovation and refinement of the now famous banana.
Mr Loukov, as posted, uses the RPB Jpen but it nothing extra ordinary but I agree completely; it is a very powerful stroke.
penholderxxx
Loukov uses one rubber. It's not RPB but TPB loop.
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Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 6:42am
penholderxxx wrote:
Would these really qualify as RPB ?
I would have thought they are all TPB but with ingenious innovation and refinement of the now famous banana.
Mr Loukov, as posted, uses the RPB Jpen but it nothing extra ordinary but I agree completely; it is a very powerful stroke.
penholderxxx
'Loukov uses one rubber. It's not RPB but TPB loop.' - ChicoFicho
From his body posture and stroke mechanics at 0.18, it looks to me he was doing a RPB.....his body was rather erect/upright and I could see the red rubber when he closed the blade at the end of the stroke. Thats how I interpret the stroke.
The black side of the blade looks different
Also, nearing the end of the clip when he was serving, he was trying to return the ball again using the RPB at 2.57.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 6:48am
penholderxxx wrote:
penholderxxx wrote:
Would these really qualify as RPB ?
I would have thought they are all TPB but with ingenious innovation and refinement of the now famous banana.
Mr Loukov, as posted, uses the RPB Jpen but it nothing extra ordinary but I agree completely; it is a very powerful stroke.
penholderxxx
'Loukov uses one rubber. It's not RPB but TPB loop.' - ChicoFicho
From his body posture and stroke mechanics at 0.18, it looks to me he was doing a RPB.....his body was rather erect/upright and I could see the red rubber when he closed the blade at the end of the stroke. Thats how I interpret the stroke.
The black side of the blade looks different
Also, nearing the end of the clip when he was serving, he was trying to return the ball again using the RPB at 2.57.
Correct me if I am wrong.
penholderxxx
Good analysis but you are still wrong. He uses only one rubber.
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Posted By: cmugica
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 9:01am
penholderxxx wrote:
<div ="msg" style="width: 755.2px; : rgb251, 251, 253;"><table width="99%"><t><tr><td ="BBquote" style="width: 740.275px;">[IMG]From his body posture and stroke mechanics at 0.18, it looks to me he was doing a RPB.....his body was rather erect/upright and I could see the red rubber when he closed the blade at the end of the stroke. Thats how I interpret the stroke<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"> <div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">penholderxxx
Agreed. He is using RPB.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 4:05pm
cmugica wrote:
penholderxxx wrote:
<div ="msg" style="width: 755.2px; : rgb251, 251, 253;"><table width="99%"><t><tr><td ="BBquote" style="width: 740.275px;">[IMG]From his body posture and stroke mechanics at 0.18, it looks to me he was doing a RPB.....his body was rather erect/upright and I could see the red rubber when he closed the blade at the end of the stroke. Thats how I interpret the stroke<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"> <div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">penholderxxx
Agreed. He is using RPB.
He has only one rubber on his blade. It's not RPB and he has never hit a RPB.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 4:47pm
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Posted By: Chairman Meow
Date Posted: 09/02/2017 at 4:51pm
ChichoFicho wrote:
cmugica wrote:
penholderxxx wrote:
<div ="msg" style="width: 755.2px; : rgb251, 251, 253;"><table width="99%"><t><tr><td ="BBquote" style="width: 740.275px;">[IMG]From his body posture and stroke mechanics at 0.18, it looks to me he was doing a RPB.....his body was rather erect/upright and I could see the red rubber when he closed the blade at the end of the stroke. Thats how I interpret the stroke<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"> <div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">penholderxxx
Agreed. He is using RPB.
He has only one rubber on his blade. It's not RPB and he has never hit a RPB.
ChichoFicho is correct. If you watch at 0.25 speed, you can clearly see that he is hitting with the red side, and then rotating his wrist during the follow through.