Violin on a budget
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Topic: Violin on a budget
Posted By: arg0
Subject: Violin on a budget
Date Posted: 09/05/2017 at 7:35pm
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I'm planning to build an inexpensive blade with used rubbers and would appreciate suggestions for a blade that has similar playing characteristics to a Violin but costs less than, say, $35. In short, the blade should be a 5-ply all wood blade, ST grip, centre-balanced, ALL+/OFF- speed, flexible (about 5.5mm thick), with a medium/hard feeling (no limba). Balance of the blade is important: it should not be head-heavy. Thanks. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 12:59am
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Interesting puzzle! AFAIK Yinhe Earth E-4 is a violin clone. Some land on aliexpress around $45. Other 5 ply blades blades with flex and hard outer plies that come to mind would be Yinhe E-1 (closer to 20$ on aliexpress). For a little more, Xiom Fuga and Xiom Diva. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 3:57am
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Thanks. I was aware of the E-4, this is why I set the budget to $35 to exclude it... Joking aside, afaik is not available in ST, unfortunately. And I suppose neither is E-1. I have no experience with Fuga and Diva, but I played with Jazz a few years ago. Jazz is stiffer, bouncier and faster than Violin. Will have to look the other two up. Other suggestions, even from lesser known brands, are appreciated. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 10:05am
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IMHO haven't found any violin clone that plays the same as the original. It's the best feeling never ever tried on a blade, but nowadays it's kinda outdated if you play all-out offensive game with this slower ball. You need a lot of raw power and strength to surpass your opponent defense and youre restricted to play just close to the table. However there are a few that could match Acoustic quite well. MaybePG3 could satisfy you, but it's not the same at all. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 10:24am
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Yup the one and only e-4 ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 11:53am
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http://bit.ly/TSPEuroFeeling" rel="nofollow - TSP Euro Feeling OFF- , 5-ply blade, ash outer ply. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 3:10pm
1. I know and wonder why Nittaku has not released a Violin Carbon yet, as they did with Acoustic. Speaking about a Violin substitute for the new ball, ITC XF has a somewhat similar feeling, though being a composite blade, but it's too head-heavy for my taste. 2. I tried and didn't like the feeling of Acoustic. 3. What do you mean? If the construction is different, that's unimportant, as long as the overall feeling is somewhat comparable. Update: "I know and wonder why..." in point 1 above should read "I know [it is kinda outdated] and wonder why..." ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
jonyer1980 wrote:Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 3:13pm
Is it really similar to Violin? It's from the early generations of Yinhe blades, so I always assumed that it would be very stiff because of the glueing. Would be happy th know if this is not the case, though FL only handle is still a showstopper for me. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 4:15pm
Interesting blade, thanks. I'll search the forum for reviews. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 7:48pm
| Hmm, this might be interesting: https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=adidas-avenger-5 |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/06/2017 at 9:29pm
it is not too stiff but it has some flex when loopping. the speed is very good and most of all the feel is awesome. i used to own one before. this is the closest to a violin. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 09/07/2017 at 12:56am
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Yes, I agree tp yogi_bear. I also don`t know any blade which is closer to Violin. E-4 is nor far away to Violin, although I clearly prefer the original, but for this price (< 50 USD) you can`t get a better Violin-clone. Unfortunately it is only available with FL handle - a No Go for some ST lovers.
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Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 09/07/2017 at 7:40pm
| Get a used vio!in blade. Save it money. It is cheaper than buying cloned in search of the magic one. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 5:05am
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Not looking for a Violin clone for my main setup: I already have 3 Violins and will stick with them. I need an affordable setup that I can hand out to kids, throw in a suitcase, forget in a basement, etc. Even E-4 is over my planned budget for this. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 5:14am
I suppose I could change the handle, but that would be too much work. I suppose I could live with FL for the intended purpose. Let's move to the next level: any blade for under $25 that comes at least close to Violin? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 5:49am
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Would any Neottec blade fit? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 6:32am
Yep. I understand you. This E-4 is rather expensive for an Yinhe just wood blade. I thought eventually to buy it, but without trying and for this money I don't think so. ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: adishorul
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 7:35am
| Maybe a handmade blade would be enough for your purpose. |
Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 9:53am
What about Yinhe Earth e-1? 20ish on aliexpress. Flexible, but with Koto outer. Koto isn't as hard as ash, but it's still on the hard end of TT the blade woods spectrum - and considerably harder than limba. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/08/2017 at 11:59am
Could fit. Moreover there is a German reseller that has the ST version. At a higher price, though. Will see if I can find it with ST handle on Aliexpress. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 4:47am
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Do you mean galaxysport.de? E4 is 94€. ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: MindTrip
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 6:18am
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When I first started playing with a Violin, my first impression was this plays similar to a butterfly Grubba All+. (Yes I keep notes after each session when trying new equipment) Actually the Violin is a bit more tame than the Grubba with the same Tenergy rubbers. The Grubba is in the $50 range iirc and gets a little closer to the amount you're looking for. Good luck in your journey. ------------- Apolonia ZLC Donic Z3 Andro R42 |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 9:50am
Yes, and their price for E-4 is crazy and they also have it only in FL. I meant that they sell E-1 with ST grip, but that's also overpriced. I'll look for ST on Aliexpress or buy FL. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 9:59am
Apparently, there are two Grubba All+ blades, which one do you mean? http://shop.butterflyonline.com/andrzej-grubba-blade http://shop.butterflyonline.com/andrzej-grubba Thanks ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 10:28am
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Sanwei pro v5 is suppose to be similar just a little faster ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 6:19pm
Hmmm. The second link is with the model I see a lot around here Superb blade. Does it all The first link must be a new model. I see it for a first time ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: MindTrip
Date Posted: 09/09/2017 at 8:04pm
The first link is the newly cosmetically redesigned model. I have the one in the second link. ------------- Apolonia ZLC Donic Z3 Andro R42 |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/10/2017 at 3:10am
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I see. Actually, I also once made a blade for a friend with the one in the second link. But I never played with it. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |