Zeio: What do Japanese coaches recommend?
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Topic: Zeio: What do Japanese coaches recommend?
Posted By: shaun729
Subject: Zeio: What do Japanese coaches recommend?
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 3:33am
| Hi Zeio and everybody else, have you ever seen an article stating what Japanese coaches recommend for beginners and intermediate players? I wonder if they still get kids to start out with Sriver or Mark V or if they would start them out with Rozena now. It would also be good to find out if they still recommend a thin 5 ply flexi blade like a Primorac to learn to loop with. It would be great if Table Tennis Kingdom did an article on this. I emailed a top German coach and he said to use thinner Tenergy but Rozana wasn't around yet. |
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 12:43pm
coaches recomend any 1.8mm soft rubbet like mark v sriver any soft rubber not speedglue effect will help |
shaun729 wrote:Posted By: henningf
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 6:59pm
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I don’t know about japanese coaches, but Rozena to beginners? I usually recommend a full setup to a beginner that costs less than one Rozena rubber. (729 rubbers and blade about $40) for beginners it’s mostly about movement and getting the strokes right. Don’t get me wrong, Rozena is a good rubber, but a bit much for a beginner in my eyes. Learning to loop is about being in the right plase, rotating your hip and using your arm «just right». This is a bit simplified, but get the fundamental technique right, then you can start to think about the equipment. 
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Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 10:15pm
| I was surprised that the German coach said Tenergy. |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 11:41pm
| I'm curious about Japan now because Butterfly don't have anything between the X-Star and the Korbel in Japan. |
Posted By: Basquests
Date Posted: 09/23/2017 at 1:02am
The cynic in me wants to see his Butterfly sponsorship contract :D |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 09/23/2017 at 1:29am
| He was a Butterfly Coach but you think he would have said Sriver or something in between. |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 09/24/2017 at 2:49am
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The ones below get mentioned a lot. For blade: Swat, Korbel, Allround Evolution. Vega Euro @ 2.0mm, Mark V @ 1.8mm, Original Extra @ medium or thick. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 09/24/2017 at 8:52am
| Thanks everybody, zeio it's funny how Mark V is in the top ten but not Sriver. |
Posted By: HuLimei
Date Posted: 09/24/2017 at 9:59am
| I noticed they recommend their young players to Cho at the top of their lungs before and after every point. |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 09/24/2017 at 5:00pm
It may have to do with Yasaka's marketing. They still spend money on advertising Mark V. In http://www.saispo.com/saispo/files/takkyubinvol.48.pdf" rel="nofollow - one issue of the newsletter published by Niigata Prefecture TTA, the Yasaka ad reads the following:
(Return to the Origin The Original of the Non-Glue Era - High Elasticity and High Friction Rubber Return to MARK V) When you flip through their catalog, Mark V is still shown first, before Rakza 7 and other newer models. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: shaun729
Date Posted: 09/24/2017 at 6:24pm
| It seems to me that Butterfly Japan have given up on the beginner & intermediate market because they have nothing between the X-Star and the Korbel. They only seem to be interested in the upmarket players. |