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Topic: Dandoy Bio Boost vs Falco Tempo Long
Posted By: rocketman222
Subject: Dandoy Bio Boost vs Falco Tempo Long
Date Posted: 12/14/2017 at 8:39pm
Would like to know if any of you have experience with Dandoy bio boost and how it compares to Falco Tempo Long, mostly along the following lines, this is only for ESN/Euro/Japanese rubbers.

  • Which one has a stronger effect in terms of increased speed/spin?
  • Which one softens the rubber more?
  • Effect longevity, how long does the boost effect last.
I have experience with using FTL, but know nothing about dandoy bioboost.

p.s. I have seen similar topic threads being derailed by questions about if its legal or not to use a booster etc, so please keep this thread to the point in case you feel like going off-topic.


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 12/15/2017 at 11:38pm
Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

Would like to know if any of you have experience with Dandoy bio boost and how it compares to Falco Tempo Long, mostly along the following lines, this is only for ESN/Euro/Japanese rubbers.

  • Which one has a stronger effect in terms of increased speed/spin?
  • Which one softens the rubber more?
  • Effect longevity, how long does the boost effect last.
I have experience with using FTL, but know nothing about dandoy bioboost.

p.s. I have seen similar topic threads being derailed by questions about if its legal or not to use a booster etc, so please keep this thread to the point in case you feel like going off-topic.

Firstly, they (Dandoy and Falco) are in 2 opposite polar of booster kinds. Dandoy is thin and running, Falco is thick and slow.

Dandoy is stronger and faster in all of aspects
Falco softens the rubber significantly
Effect of Falco lasts very long, due to the softening effect is nearly forever.





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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 12/16/2017 at 12:57am
Chop4ever I totally forgot, I should have directly asked you this. I can't think of many people more knowledgeable than you on this topic.

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Posted By: cherng
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 12:36am
Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.




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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 10:12am
Originally posted by cherng cherng wrote:

Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.


you must be a very dedicated to boost every 4 days.


Posted By: sunny
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 12:36pm
Falco Tempo affect stays for 8-12 weeks


Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 6:00pm
I boost all my Chinese rubbers with Falco Long and surely the rubber becomes livelier and softer and it easily stays like this for at least 3 months. Never tried another booster. Too lazy to apply every week or so

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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 10:29pm
Falco softens the rubber a *ton*, and is slower than the lidu I’ve tried (clear, not the yellow version, which is supposed to be even faster). It may be slowing down a little after a few days, but a lot of people find they still get a good effect from Lidu for up to 3 weeks - unlike Eg seamoon. Have you considered sticking to Lidu but boosting less often?


Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 11:01pm
Andro Rasant (dunno about Rasanter) smells just like Dandoy Bio Booster.



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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by cherng cherng wrote:

Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.



Falco softens the sponge and gives 2-4grs adding to the total weight. For who likes the "feeling" of rubber and isn't effected by weight variety, Falco is for them.
However, none of pro uses it.
Kailin has longer effect. The harder sponge is, the longer lasting time. 


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I boost all my Chinese rubbers with Falco Long and surely the rubber becomes livelier and softer and it easily stays like this for at least 3 months. Never tried another booster. Too lazy to apply every week or so

why don't u try Dandoy to see if you have to re-apply it everyweek?
Dandoy, Dianchi, Kailin, Lidu, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, TRF,..all last longer than 3 weeks.


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Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 3:50am
I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

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Posted By: Hudoi
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 5:01am
?Подскажите, где купить chop4ever ?


Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 6:01am
Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 6:29am
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed
Do you boost an exact number of layers or many layers until the rubber dome?


Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 8:01am
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 10:44am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?


Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 11:36am
Falco long is great for softening the sponge permanently.


Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 11:52am
Though falco works great on ESN, it does not have as much of an effect on Chinese sponge, also Chop4ever is the master chemist. I would blindly follow his advice.

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Posted By: taczkid
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 12:56pm
anyone knows where I can purchase Stiga Extreme? please PM me


Posted By: Hudoi
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 3:23pm
?


Posted By: Hudoi
Date Posted: 02/13/2018 at 3:24pm
?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?


Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 5:30am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?

Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 5:39am
Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 5:40am
Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

anyone knows where I can purchase Stiga Extreme? please PM me

Buy Nittaku Speed Axel if you can't find the Stiga Extreme, they are the same.



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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 7:58am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.


Lol!  What about the Phoenix Reviver?  :P


Posted By: mttgfg
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 11:07am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



Hi , i could send him a test sample of your stuff chop, and he pays only the shipping cost etc. If he wants to try reviver phoenix.


Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 11:10am
Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Do you boost an exact number of layers or many layers until the rubber dome?

Untill dome

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Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 11:16am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?

Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


Logically this make sense. From what I have tried the softer TG3(I guess H3 as well) is slower than the ones I boost, although they become more or less equally soft

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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by mttgfg mttgfg wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



Hi , i could send him a test sample of your stuff chop, and he pays only the shipping cost etc. If he wants to try reviver phoenix.
I would like to try it as well.  Please PM me for the arrangement.  Thanks.  


Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by mttgfg mttgfg wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



Hi , i could send him a test sample of your stuff chop, and he pays only the shipping cost etc. If he wants to try reviver phoenix.

Thank you my friend!



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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:



Logically this make sense. From what I have tried the softer TG3(I guess H3 as well) is slower than the ones I boost, although they become more or less equally soft


The problem originally doesn't come from the hardness of Chinese rubbers, it comes from the quality control and the way they mark specific hardness on the sponge. Myself (and I remember Haggisv used to state the same issue) had many funny exp of the same "D40" on 3 "prov H3" but actually played all differently. Even it has the same "hardness" but one fast one slow, doesn't matter boosting or not.

However, noone has considered the side effect of Falco booster. yet it soften and a little bit enhance the speed, it also loosen the glue between topsheet and sponge, causes bubbles quickly! If bubble is not your concern, then have u noticed the topsheet will be less tacky but slipery by boosting with Falco? 

back to the topic, my oppinion is to buy softer H3 and use Dandoy: no side effect, faster and lighter, the reboost time might be shorter but your H3 is still good and fresh.




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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 8:39pm
Chop4ever, I did notice the topsheet getting slippery, do you know why this happens with Falco?

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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

Chop4ever, I did notice the topsheet getting slippery, do you know why this happens with Falco?

I can only guess that caused by a small amount of paraffin has penetrated over glue layer to the pips, then gone to the topsheet surface.
To cure that effect, you shouldn't put it back and wait, it won't recover. Glue that rubber to the feeding bat (for multiball), after 100 hours playing it will be back to the original tackiness. I guess the ball has carried out oil from the topsheet.




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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 02/14/2018 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


Any H3 41 that has been tuned with Falco, Dandoy, or Haifu (at least, probably others as well) and softened to 39 degrees will play faster, spinnier and more elastic than a stock H3 39 degree...


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/15/2018 at 7:03am
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


Any H3 41 that has been tuned with Falco, Dandoy, or Haifu (at least, probably others as well) and softened to 39 degrees will play faster, spinnier and more elastic than a stock H3 39 degree...

Agree!
However, Falco is the slowest one.



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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 1:07am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


Any H3 41 that has been tuned with Falco, Dandoy, or Haifu (at least, probably others as well) and softened to 39 degrees will play faster, spinnier and more elastic than a stock H3 39 degree...

Agree!
However, Falco is the slowest one.


I honestly can't tell the difference in speed between the Seamoon i bought from ttnpp and FTL.

-The FTL just lasts longer.
-The seamon can be used to tune the glue layer as well as being applied to sponge.

Is it possible the Seamoon from ttnpp is not real?

i've gotten lots of fakes and factory 2nds from ttnpp before.


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 4:58am
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:


I honestly can't tell the difference in speed between the Seamoon i bought from ttnpp and FTL.

-The FTL just lasts longer.
-The seamon can be used to tune the glue layer as well as being applied to sponge.

Is it possible the Seamoon from ttnpp is not real?

i've gotten lots of fakes and factory 2nds from ttnpp before.

I've bought Seamoon from Prott and ttnpp, they are both the same. I assume both of them are genuine or all fake.

Both Falco and Seamoon are quite similar. They're thick and slow absorbed to the sponge. They're not quite fast in comparision to Dianchi or Kailin.
Both of them can be used dirrectly to sponge.
 
However I could tell the difference.
Seamoon is a little bit faster. When apply to glue layer, Seamoon still keep the glue strong while Falco loosen it. Seamoon slightly soften the sponge while Falco weaken the sponge significantly.
The most important is, Seamoon won't make H3 topsheet to be slippery after 1-2 times boosting, while Falco effects at the first time.


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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 9:52am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


I've bought Seamoon from Prott and ttnpp, they are both the same. I assume both of them are genuine or all fake.

Both Falco and Seamoon are quite similar. They're thick and slow absorbed to the sponge. They're not quite fast in comparision to Dianchi or Kailin.
Both of them can be used dirrectly to sponge.


Ok.

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However I could tell the difference.
Seamoon is a little bit faster. When apply to glue layer, Seamoon still keep the glue strong while Falco loosen it. Seamoon slightly soften the sponge while Falco weaken the sponge significantly.
The most important is, Seamoon won't make H3 topsheet to be slippery after 1-2 times boosting, while Falco effects at the first time.

Falco Tempo Long definitely softens the sponge more. 

But the slippery effect - I haven't seen FTL make H3 Neo (or TG2/3 Neo) slippery when reboosting those rubbers.  I can't speak to regular (non Neo) H3 or TG2/3 since I haven't used them in years.

Perhaps the Neo topsheet was designed to be more booster compatible?


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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 02/17/2018 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


I've bought Seamoon from Prott and ttnpp, they are both the same. I assume both of them are genuine or all fake.

Both Falco and Seamoon are quite similar. They're thick and slow absorbed to the sponge. They're not quite fast in comparision to Dianchi or Kailin.
Both of them can be used dirrectly to sponge.


Ok.

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However I could tell the difference.
Seamoon is a little bit faster. When apply to glue layer, Seamoon still keep the glue strong while Falco loosen it. Seamoon slightly soften the sponge while Falco weaken the sponge significantly.
The most important is, Seamoon won't make H3 topsheet to be slippery after 1-2 times boosting, while Falco effects at the first time.


Falco Tempo Long definitely softens the sponge more. 

But the slippery effect - I haven't seen FTL make H3 Neo (or TG2/3 Neo) slippery when reboosting those rubbers.  I can't speak to regular (non Neo) H3 or TG2/3 since I haven't used them in years.

Perhaps the Neo topsheet was designed to be more booster compatible?

Right the time after reboosting is no problem, or you have applied too little to let it penetrate to the topsheet. Wait for a couple weeks or use more than one brush.

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Posted By: malin87
Date Posted: 02/20/2018 at 2:58am
using both boosters for a long periof of time, dandoy is better than falco. I was dissapointed many time from falco's speed. The only thing is that dandoy lasts less, maybe 15-18 days in max speed... In addition, my tenergy's are damaged more often with dandoy booster, maybe after 2-3 times reboosting the rubber scratches in the middle..

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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 12/05/2018 at 11:37pm
people with experience with Dandoy Bio Boost- i got a bottle just for fun.  Tried it on used sheets (2to 3 months) of Stiga Airoc M and Gewo NanoFlex FT48. Applied 5 layers over old WBG.  It does not curl the rubber.  is it supposed to?


Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 12/06/2018 at 5:05pm
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The problem with direct application to the sponge is that it can cause delamination of sponge and topsheet (the bubbles people reference) if you are not careful.

Much safer to apply to the Neo tuning/glue layer or on a couple layers of WBG. Of course you have to use a bit more this way, and depending on your WBG, it may take much longer for the effect to ramp up (24-48 hours longer).


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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 12/06/2018 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

One Note:

The problem with direct application to the sponge is that it can cause delamination of sponge and topsheet (the bubbles people reference) if you are not careful.

Much safer to apply to the Neo tuning/glue layer or on a couple layers of WBG. Of course you have to use a bit more this way, and depending on your WBG, it may take much longer for the effect to ramp up (24-48 hours longer).
thanks.  Actually the Gewo curled somewhat after more than 12 hours.  I guess maybe the Bio Booster does not work on Jap Sponges or more specifically the Airoc.


Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 5:48am
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

people with experience with Dandoy Bio Boost- i got a bottle just for fun.  Tried it on used sheets (2to 3 months) of Stiga Airoc M and Gewo NanoFlex FT48. Applied 5 layers over old WBG.  It does not curl the rubber.  is it supposed to?

Give 3 more brushes to the old Airoc.


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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 8:06am
From my experience, if you get a reasonable curl using FLT, then the rubber gets quite fast...
This is after 2 layers. I put in a 3rd layer after this and it curled into a narrow pipe...




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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 9:54am
Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

people with experience with Dandoy Bio Boost- i got a bottle just for fun.  Tried it on used sheets (2to 3 months) of Stiga Airoc M and Gewo NanoFlex FT48. Applied 5 layers over old WBG.  It does not curl the rubber.  is it supposed to?

Give 3 more brushes to the old Airoc.
will give it a shot.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 10:01am
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

From my experience, if you get a reasonable curl using FLT, then the rubber gets quite fast...
This is after 2 layers. I put in a 3rd layer after this and it curled into a narrow pipe...


FLT does give that effect but the Bio Booster effect I have had on the Gewo is more like a dome with 1 inch height.  Will see how it plays tonight.


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

From my experience, if you get a reasonable curl using FLT, then the rubber gets quite fast...
This is after 2 layers. I put in a 3rd layer after this and it curled into a narrow pipe...





Where do you buy bio booster? Is there a booster with no smell?


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 2:03pm
I bought mine from Dandoy (their own brand),  it pretty well dries on the spot and supposed to be safe but I have not had a chance to see how much difference did it make (in playing characteristics)




Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

From my experience, if you get a reasonable curl using FLT, then the rubber gets quite fast...
This is after 2 layers. I put in a 3rd layer after this and it curled into a narrow pipe...



Fake H3, the stamp is easy to make up.
The rubber won't last long, what a waste of money.



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Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

I bought mine from Dandoy (their own brand),  it pretty well dries on the spot and supposed to be safe but I have not had a chance to see how much difference did it make (in playing characteristics)



The comparison needs to be equal: same amount of FTL to Bio booster. As it is too thin, you have to apply 3x times.


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Posted By: HarmonicTT
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 7:20pm
Falco isn't that good. All it does is soften the hell out of it...
Haifu or dianchi is the top two.
I believe a university did a research on it not too long ago and all it was low oder fluid fuel just forget for which lol
Falco is so so but above mentioned are good if not seamoon which is another good one.



The last statement is absolutely wrong. One is thick and one is thinner. You're going to overkill the sponge and bubble up the top sheet big time if you even try 3x thick layered of falco


Posted By: HarmonicTT
Date Posted: 12/07/2018 at 7:23pm
Most of you guys on this forum should have enough power and technique to use a h3 neo + provincial + or national without boosting on a faster composite blade or a solid 5/7 ply all wood blade... my loops are deadlier than from people who boost. My loop drives and counter drives dip low as hell. Currently using it on my yoshimura limited edition zlc blade and it's beautiful combi. Which also proves no such rubber or blade combo are only meant for one or the other.



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