Xiom Omega VII Pro and Euro Rubbers
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Topic: Xiom Omega VII Pro and Euro Rubbers
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Xiom Omega VII Pro and Euro Rubbers
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:05am
Forgive the pics because I only used a cellphone to take them.
Omega VII Pro
The Omega 7 Pro is the newest addition to the Omega Series rubbers. Xiom decided not to name the series as Omega 6 but skipped one number and made it Omega 7. They only released the Omega Pro and Euro versions. I am hoping they will release the Tour and Asis versions also this year.
Anyways, the Omega 7 Pro or let us call it O7P particularly softer compared to the Omega V Pro (O5P). My O7P was softer when it was first glued with a Xiom waterbased glue but after 2 days the rubber hardened a little bit. I thought the rubber was too soft at first but it is only a tad softer compared to the O5P. The topsheet of the O7P has this softness that I have not experienced with other Xiom rubbers in the past. The topsheet is a semi tacky and soft topsheet. When I pressed my finger against the topsheet, my finger sank into the topsheet easily. I would compare the sponge as almost the same hardness wit hthe Omega 5 Pro but the topsheet hardness makes it really different when it comes to overall hardness (topsheet + sponge hardness combined). The topsheet layer seems thinner but have longer pimples extending inwards. The O7P has bigger pores compared to that of the O7 Euro version. I cut the rubber to my Xiom Feel Ax blade which is a 150x157mm blade and was surprised the rubber weighs only at 45 grams in my digital scale. The Omega 5 Pro which I also used for testing was about 48-49 grams cut in the same Xiom Feel Ax blade so the O7P is a light ESN rubber and Xiom says that they intended the new rubbers to be light, fast and grippy.
For comparison, I will be comparing it to the Omega V Pro and MX-P. I always thought nothing could be as spinny or speedy as the MX-P in the past 4-5 years that it was released. Speedwise, I would put the Omega 7 Pro as a faster rubber than Omega 5 Pro or MX-P. Let me explain why. I have placed the Omega 7 Pro in my Xiom Feel AX and at that time of testing I lacked the Omega 5 Pro (it prompted me to buy the Omega 5 Pro as a forehand rubber because I like it a lot) so I used a friend's Primorac Carbon blade with Omega 5 Pro in it. I know they are attached to different blades with different speeds with the Primorac Carbon being a faster blade because the Feel AX is like a slower and softer Viscaria. I was surprised that the Feell AX with the the O7P came out as a faster racket set up. With the Primorac Carbon and Omega V Pro, I can still control the ball easily despite the primorac Carbon being a fast and stiff blade but with the Feel AX and Omega 7 Pro, I had to do some adjustments to my swings. I usually do full swings in my loops because I came from using CHinese rubbers in the forehand. I was not satisfied wit hthe comparison, so I bought an Omega V pro and used it in my forehand with the O7P as my backhand rubber just for the sake of speed comparison (the O5P is still the one I am using right now as a FH rubber and the O7P is my bh rubber). I can feel the difference in speed by a few notches. After 2 days of using the O7P as a fh and bh rubber, I was able to control it and this is where I saw its main selling point and my second point of the review - the Xiom Omega 7 Pro is a very easy rubber to use. In fact, it is one of the easiest high speed rubbers to that I have ever used up to date. Yes, it is quite strange that it took me 1 day to adjust to its speed, but other speedy rubbers took me a month or even never to adjust because they are very hard to use and are not suited to my full swings. The O7P is a very forgiving rubber. I do not know if it is the combination of the sponge and topsheet combo that enables me to control the ball easily. This is what I noticed about the Omega 7 Pro, on situations where you are not in a position to do a proper stroke or your contact with the ball seem to be lacking because maybe you have suddenly been given a well placed return or drive, the Omega 7 Pro returns the ball easier compared to high end speedy rubber. Whether it is a sloppy forehand topspin or a sudden slap with the ball because you were not able to spin it properly, the chances of missing is a bit lower even if you compare it to the Omega V Pro or MX-P. The MX-P in particular is a vicious rubber wherein it is very fast but people with lesser skills will have a hard time using it or controlling the rubber as well the Omega V Pro because these 2 rubbers are best suited to those who have well developed strokes and not some half cooked stroke or skill to bring out the best in them. Although, I would choose the Omega V pro as my fh rubber it is because it is not an inferior rubber but it is more suited to my chinese rubber stroke. For the backhand, the Omega 7 Pro is really good in terms of flicks, backhand kills, loops and blocks. It can rival the Tenergy 64 as backhand rubber because it is pretty balanced in terms of control and speed for attacking, blocking and spin.
Spinwise, I had a hard time deciding which one has more spin among the 3 so I would rather categories the spin of 3 rubbers. The Omega V pro is spinnier compared to the MX-P or Omega 7 Pro on thin contact brushes. I would attribute this to the medium hard sponge and topsheet which let you spin the ball with a thin brush contact. The MX-P comes second and the O7 Pro is the least. If you contact the ball in a thick and sponge -engaging stroke, the Omega 7 Pro is spinnier compared to the MX-P and Omega V Pro but if maybe a player with a higher level of skill, the Omega v Pro would be spinnier but I cannot fully conclude. The way you can spin the ball with the Omega 7 Pro is more on deep sponge contact but it is easier to produce spin with the O7Pro comapred with the Omega 5 Pro. Let's just sat, for potential spin, it is probably the Omega 5 Pro that is spinnier but it needs a higher set of skills and the topsheet of the O5Pro is more spin sensitive while the MX-P and Omega 7 Pro are not the spin sensitive.
Away from the table, the Omega 7 Pro is more powerful compared to the MX-P and Omega V Pro. The Omega V pro feels like it is good only up to mid distance and loses some power at far distance. The MX-P is comfortable at far distance but the seem to have lesser power by a small margin to the Omega 7 Pro.
I personally prefer the Omega V pro as my forehand rubberr because I can control it and use it like a Chinese rubber the same way I can control the MX-S easily before. I kept the Omega 7 Pro as a backhand rubber and this is out of preference. I am sure a lot of player would use the Omega 7 Pro as a forehand rubber because it is simply an amazing rubber.
Omega VII Euro
At 43 grams cut to a 150x157mm blade, the O7 Euro is even lighter than the Omega 7 Pro version. I will compare this directly with the Omega V Euro version since the O5E is the E7's predecessor. The Omega Euro 7 is slightly softer than the Omega V equivalent. This is after 1-2 days of gluing it to the blade. It feels really soft when I first glued it so I let a day pass to have the hardness checked and it it hardens a little bit after a day passes. The topsheet like that of the Omega 7 Pro is also softer than the O5E. The Omega 5 Euro topsheet feels tackier at first touch compared both to that of the O7P and O7E. The sponge of the O5E feels denser than the O7E and feels heavier. Between the O7P and Omega 7 Euro sponges, the O7E has smaller pores in the sponge.
I have both used the Euro 5 and Euro 7 and the difference is huge on the playstyle and spin output. The Omega 5 Euro seems to be more vicious in terms of a topspin game while the Omega 7 Eruo seems to be a very tamed version. The Omega 7 Euro is not as spin sensitive compared to the Omega V Euro. A friend of mine who is fond of the Omega 7 Euro cannot play with the 5 Euro because it is a very spin sensitive rubber and he feels it is too hard for him. Another friend of mine who I gave the Omega V Euro loves the O5E because he can actually attack with amazing spin and speed with the Omega V euro. So the Omega V euro seems to be not for every playing style. One friend who smashes a lot in the forehand does not like it much but another friend who spins a lot loves it. The Omega 7 Euro seem to attack very well minus the spin sensitivity and also a little bit less spin than the Omega 7 Pro and Omega 5 Euro but like the OMega 7 Pro it is easier to handle even with just intermediate level players. the spin is still great if you compare it to vega pros and and vega euros so spin is not really a problem but it is just a level or 2 lower than the Omega 7 Pro. Intermediate players can play with this rubber at max version and will not find it hard to control or generate spin. The soft topsheet enables them to hit the ball with depth into the topsheet and sponge making them spin the ball a little bit easier. The Omega 7E has a lower throw compared to the Omega 7P and Omega 5P and E versions. I will not call it a mediocre rubber in terms of performance because it is really good especially as a backhand rubber but advanced level players would surely want the Omega 7 Pro instead because the Omega 7 Pro is a rubber in complete package that has playing characteristics on a better level than that of the Omega 7 Euro except maybe with control. The O7E is good up to middle distance only, far from the table it loses almost half of its power so I definitely recommend this to close to the table attackers and blockers.
People have asked me how is the Omega 7 Pro's catapult and I can say it is very bouncy. It is faster than the MX-P by a small margin so you will have no problem about catapult. Will the Omega 7 Pro be a good replacement for Adidas P7? Yes, definitely it is. It has some characteristics similar to playing the P7 but with the O7P being faster and spinnier.
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Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:13am
OMG. Here we go again. Can you please tell us whats the weight?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:31am
i only weighed the rubbers already cut to 150x157mm blades.. Pro is 45 grams and Euro is 43 grams. They are light!
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Posted By: melaal
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 6:23am
I like XIOM Waiting your review
Thanks
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Posted By: 808ponger
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 6:50am
Any idea when they’ll be released generally?
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Posted By: polbotinka
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 9:47am
Xiom Omega V Euro is still one of the best BH rubbers out there, but I'm afraid they softened VII which I don't like.
I didn't like Omega V Pro much overall it was OK rubber but I liked Tour more.
Can't wait to see what Omega VII Pro/Euro plays like.
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 9:59am
According to Xiom website (http://www.xiom.co.kr/product/product_detail.aspx?catCode=30&prdCode=1001496) Omega VII Pro is only 45º, softer compared to OV Pro or Vega Pro. Xiom allways messing with their own names.
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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:05pm
polbotinka wrote:
Xiom Omega V Euro is still one of the best BH rubbers out there, but I'm afraid they softened VII which I don't like.
I didn't like Omega V Pro much overall it was OK rubber but I liked Tour more.
Can't wait to see what Omega VII Pro/Euro plays like. |
+1 for OmegaV Euro for bh only. I love it
I hope the Omega VII's don't play like Rasanter or Bluestorm
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Posted By: MydasDiablo
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:23pm
After reading the German reviews using google translate: http://www.tt-spin.de/xiom-omega-vii-euro/" rel="nofollow - http://www.tt-spin.de/xiom-omega-vii-euro/ http://www.tt-spin.de/xiom-omega-vii-pro/" rel="nofollow - http://www.tt-spin.de/xiom-omega-vii-pro/ I was excited about the VII Euro as a super lightweight rubber (given the hardness) with great speed/spin to control ratio. My distributor in the UK then told me Xiom aren't releasing the Euro here until March '18 . I think the Pro is coming earlier and I know some distributors in Asia have already got stock in the pipeline.
Looking forward to your review and hoping one of the forum sellers in Asia will chip in at some point with a plug to buy the rubbers from them.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 5:52pm
It's very encouraging to see Xiom seeking superior performance in lighter weight rubbers. Over the last few years, so many premium rubbers have reached and exceeded 70 grams per sheet. Hopefully, if the Omega VII series meets with success, other manufacturers will begin to follow suit.
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 6:21pm
Rich L wrote:
It's very encouraging to see Xiom seeking superior performance in lighter weight rubbers. Over the last few years, so many premium rubbers have reached and exceeded 70 grams per sheet. Hopefully, if the Omega VII series meets with success, other manufacturers will begin to follow suit. |
That is not how it works. Xiom is not seeking anything. This is just ESN's latest tech. The menu that ESN offers Xiom is reasonably narrow focused.
Rasanters are light as well.
From reports, XV7E is quite softer in feel than XV5E. XV7P may not be spinny enough to suit everyone.
However, I am looking forward to trying them. I love the current gen. Even Aurus Prime is a step up in grip from MX-P.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 6:56pm
I stand corrected, but whatever is behind the move to lighter weight performance rubbers, I'm all for it. I'm still waiting for a P7 successor to come along that has that same elasticity and catapult effect, yet match P7's 64g weight.
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Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 12/21/2017 at 7:27pm
Rich L wrote:
but whatever is behind the move to lighter weight performance rubbers | Moving to thinner topsheet and thicker sponge! The sponge is less dense compared to the topsheet hence the lighter weight.
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Posted By: vic#74
Date Posted: 12/22/2017 at 12:46am
Matt Pimple wrote:
Moving to thinner topsheet and thicker sponge! The sponge is less dense compared to the topsheet hence the lighter weight. | ...and showing the signs of topsheet wearing much faster..
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Posted By: MydasDiablo
Date Posted: 12/22/2017 at 1:08am
The German chap who does the reviews on TT-Spin reckons Gewo Hype KR Pro 47.5 is the closest thing to P7 he has tried. Read his review here: http://www.tt-spin.de/gewo-hype-kr-pro-47-5/" rel="nofollow - http://www.tt-spin.de/gewo-hype-kr-pro-47-5/
68g uncut, 46g cut for Max, not as light as P7 but not as heavy as Evos or Omegas.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 12/22/2017 at 1:21am
I have tried the hype kr gewo but it is not close to p7. The OP7 feels softer than p7 but it is very spinny.
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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 12/22/2017 at 2:08am
slevin wrote:
Rich L wrote:
It's very encouraging to see Xiom seeking superior performance in lighter weight rubbers. Over the last few years, so many premium rubbers have reached and exceeded 70 grams per sheet. Hopefully, if the Omega VII series meets with success, other manufacturers will begin to follow suit. |
That is not how it works. Xiom is not seeking anything. This is just ESN's latest tech. The menu that ESN offers Xiom is reasonably narrow focused.
Rasanters are light as well.
From reports, XV7E is quite softer in feel than XV5E. XV7P may not be spinny enough to suit everyone.
However, I am looking forward to trying them. I love the current gen. Even Aurus Prime is a step up in grip from MX-P. |
Not really. I had an uncut Rasanter R50 max at 73g. That is heavier than an uncut Tenergy 2.1 05/80 by about 3 to 4g
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Posted By: MydasDiablo
Date Posted: 12/22/2017 at 2:21am
You are not comparing like for like on sponge hardness or thickness (2.1mm vs 2.3mm), so that's not a fair comparison. It's clear that across the board the new gen ESN thin topsheet rubbers are lighter than Evos and Omegas etc, but then so are Tenergies so you won't gain much by going from Tenergy to them if you are trying to save weight.
Is it the obscene amount of booster they add to the Evos and the like that causes them to be so heavy? FX-P and EL-P are ridiculously heavy given their sponge hardness.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 12/27/2017 at 7:25am
Hey Yogi,
Any impressions on the Omega VII rubbers yet?
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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 12/27/2017 at 9:16am
slevin wrote:
Rich L wrote:
It's very encouraging to see Xiom seeking superior performance in lighter weight rubbers. Over the last few years, so many premium rubbers have reached and exceeded 70 grams per sheet. Hopefully, if the Omega VII series meets with success, other manufacturers will begin to follow suit. |
That is not how it works. Xiom is not seeking anything. This is just ESN's latest tech. The menu that ESN offers Xiom is reasonably narrow focused.
Rasanters are light as well.
From reports, XV7E is quite softer in feel than XV5E. XV7P may not be spinny enough to suit everyone.
However, I am looking forward to trying them. I love the current gen. Even Aurus Prime is a step up in grip from MX-P. |
I definitely see your point, but AFAIK Xiom is the only brand that chose to use this new topsheet design to reduce the rubber weight. As such it seems fair to expect that the omega VII will have been optimized for the 2.1 max sponge, unlike the other ESN rubbers from the same generation. Ofc the question is whether their weight and performance actually outclasses the other thin topsheet ESN at 2.1 thickness. Time will tell!
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Posted By: melaal
Date Posted: 12/31/2017 at 3:41am
Hey Yogi,Any impressions on the Omega VII rubbers yet?
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 01/01/2018 at 11:46am
Omega Yogi on any hey impressions the yet VII, rubbers?
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Posted By: h0n1g
Date Posted: 01/01/2018 at 12:01pm
GeneralSpecific wrote:
Omega Yogi on any hey impressions the yet VII, rubbers?
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You might wanna try that again.
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/01/2018 at 12:45pm
h0n1g wrote:
GeneralSpecific wrote:
Omega Yogi on any hey impressions the yet VII, rubbers?
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You might wanna try that again. |
Give us a break - we're all recovering from our New Year eve's hangover!
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 01/01/2018 at 1:11pm
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/02/2018 at 6:41am
updated with Omega 7 Pro review. I will post the Euro review tomorrow. Sorry been very busy with the New year and my tennis elbow has been hurting since a week ago that I even have a hard time typing.
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Posted By: nv42
Date Posted: 01/02/2018 at 3:54pm
From my experience, pretty sure the mx-p is spinnier than the O5P on full swings and thin brush topsheet brush kinda loops (though it is a bit harder to pull it off with mx-p), the O5P might feel spinnier on med swings. Either way, any comparisons of the o7p with rasanter 47 or aurus prime.?
However, iv noticed that ppl with full arm Chinese swings feel more comfortable playing with rubbers like the mx-s, O5P etc and can get better results with them than with bouncy stuff like mx-p.
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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 01/02/2018 at 9:31pm
Sounds interesting to me. I'm thinking the pro for the and the euro for bh maybe?
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/02/2018 at 11:12pm
I think that O7P is 45 deg, not 47.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 01/03/2018 at 5:56am
Great review. How is the catapult effect on the O7P? Do we have a potential P7 replacement here?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/03/2018 at 8:09am
yes, it can replace the P7. The catapult is more than you expect and it is very bouncy.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/03/2018 at 8:10am
if I compare it to the Rasanter R47, the Omega 7 is spinnier with a bit softer feel and with almost teh same speed and catapult.
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Posted By: carbon136
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 7:32am
Could you compare the O7P to Tenergy? (To the one that is the closest to O7P). Thanks!
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 11:12am
Feels different entirely from t05. The o7 pro is definitely faster and softer but tenergy is still spinnier.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 11:13am
Omega v pro is a good substitute for tenergy 05
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Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 11:56am
Yogi, can you make a comparison between O7P with ITC Ultra 45 and 48? (spin, speed, throw angle)
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Posted By: carbon136
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 12:11pm
yogi_bear wrote:
Omega v pro is a good substitute for tenergy 05 |
Sorry, I disagree with that. In my opinion, OVP is noticeably softer, slower and less spinny, therefore not a substitute.
Is there any Tenergy rubber (T80, T64, or even FXs) that is comparable to O7P? Thanks.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 1:02pm
For anyone who is interested, American Table Tennis has O7P listed for sale on their website.
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Posted By: nv42
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 1:48pm
carbon136 wrote:
yogi_bear wrote:
Omega v pro is a good substitute for tenergy 05 |
Sorry, I disagree with that. In my opinion, OVP is noticeably softer, slower and less spinny, therefore not a substitute.
Is there any Tenergy rubber (T80, T64, or even FXs) that is comparable to O7P? Thanks. |
+1 on what you've said. Even I can't really link OVP to being similar to t05, the OVT probably plays closer to t05.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 3:47pm
shinshiro wrote:
Yogi, can you make a comparison between O7P with ITC Ultra 45 and 48? (spin, speed, throw angle) | Speed wise 48 n o7p are on te same level but o7p seems spinnier by a small margin. Both o7p and 48 have mediumto high throw. 45 is just a toned down version of the 48.
Let me paraphrase my term on "substitute" rather it should be alternative. It is the "closest" i can compare to since i have not tried the tour version. Let us not talk about spin. Still mo rubber that can rival t05's spin.
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Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 01/04/2018 at 9:54pm
yogi_bear wrote:
shinshiro wrote:
Yogi, can you make a comparison between O7P with ITC Ultra 45 and 48? (spin, speed, throw angle) | Speed wise 48 n o7p are on te same level but o7p seems spinnier by a small margin. Both o7p and 48 have mediumto high throw. 45 is just a toned down version of the 48.
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Between O7P, 48 and 45, how would you rank them on short game? I mean, wich one has less catapult on very gentle shots?
Do you know some rubber that has similar playing caracteristics to ultra 45? It will be easier to get a better idea of how it plays.
You said O7P is easy to control for a fast rubber. One of the marketing about Ultra is also the good control if offers despite the high speed. Do you also think ultra 48 has good control? Does it have more control than O7P?
Sorry for the loads of questions. I know that you will do a more in deph review of Ultra in the future, but I can't contain myself haha
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/05/2018 at 5:22am
Same control but the o7p is just a level above because of the extra spin.forget the ultra 45, the 48 can do it better.
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Posted By: Flobert
Date Posted: 01/05/2018 at 8:28am
How does the O7P perform compare to the MX-P?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/05/2018 at 1:08pm
The mxp can produce spin even with thin contact. The o7p needs to sink the ball in order for you to spin. Both are very spinny but the o7p is easier to use or control.
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Posted By: Flobert
Date Posted: 01/05/2018 at 1:35pm
yogi_bear wrote:
The mxp can produce spin even with thin contact. The o7p needs to sink the ball in order for you to spin. Both are very spinny but the o7p is easier to use or control. |
How does it look with arc? O7P higher than MX-P?
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 01/06/2018 at 4:04pm
Just received my sheet of Omega VII Pro in black with 2.0 mm sponge. At 170mm x 170mm, it has a total uncut weight of 63 grams. I took a nice closeup view of the edge showing the pips and top sheet pretty clearly. If someone can tell me how to upload the image, I'll be happy to post it.
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Posted By: melaal
Date Posted: 01/07/2018 at 2:44pm
Can please compare it with rozena rubber ?
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 01/07/2018 at 4:02pm
On my Hyabusa blades, the 70% rule seems to apply, 44g cut.
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Posted By: Danthespearton
Date Posted: 01/08/2018 at 9:55pm
Are any of the Omega 7 rubbers good for a modern defensive game? I'm talking about Joo Sae Hyuk/Yuto Muramatsu/Ma Te style.
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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 01/09/2018 at 2:24pm
Danthespearton, modern defense usually uses typical offensive inverted rubbers on the forehand: so, afaik, no special requirements for the off inverted side - except maybe weight depending on blade size. Eg JSH uses tenergy on forehand.
Do you have something else in mind?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/09/2018 at 5:30pm
The omega vii pro seem to bouncy for chopping
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Posted By: Danthespearton
Date Posted: 01/09/2018 at 7:04pm
ohwell wrote:
Danthespearton, modern defense usually uses typical offensive inverted rubbers on the forehand: so, afaik, no special requirements for the off inverted side - except maybe weight depending on blade size. Eg JSH uses tenergy on forehand.
Do you have something else in mind? |
Well, yes, that is true; however, some are still more suitable than others. For example, Bryce HighSpeed versus Tenergy; you see my point? Also, it's not that I have the EJ bug, I'm just asking out of curiosity, since no one has touched on that area. Also, if you want to know what I'm currently using, I'm using Mark V GPS.
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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 01/09/2018 at 9:44pm
yogi_bear wrote:
The omega vii pro seem to bouncy for chopping |
For modern defense I’m assuming the fh rubber would be used for spinny attack not chopping..
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Posted By: ohwell
Date Posted: 01/09/2018 at 9:50pm
Danthespearton wrote:
ohwell wrote:
Danthespearton, modern defense usually uses typical offensive inverted rubbers on the forehand: so, afaik, no special requirements for the off inverted side - except maybe weight depending on blade size. Eg JSH uses tenergy on forehand.
Do you have something else in mind? |
Well, yes, that is true; however, some are still more suitable than others. For example, Bryce HighSpeed versus Tenergy; you see my point? Also, it's not that I have the EJ bug, I'm just asking out of curiosity, since no one has touched on that area. Also, if you want to know what I'm currently using, I'm using Mark V GPS. |
Is there anything the Bryce highspeed is good for? ;)
More seriously, afaik if it’s good for spinny, modern offense, it’s likely suitable for the modern defense Fh, right? On paper, there might be one major advantage of the omega vii for modern defense (vs the other countless spinny offensive rubbers): the reduced weight - esp if using an oversized blade..
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Posted By: Danthespearton
Date Posted: 01/10/2018 at 2:47am
ohwell wrote:
Danthespearton wrote:
ohwell wrote:
Danthespearton, modern defense usually uses typical offensive inverted rubbers on the forehand: so, afaik, no special requirements for the off inverted side - except maybe weight depending on blade size. Eg JSH uses tenergy on forehand.
Do you have something else in mind? |
Well, yes, that is true; however, some are still more suitable than others. For example, Bryce HighSpeed versus Tenergy; you see my point? Also, it's not that I have the EJ bug, I'm just asking out of curiosity, since no one has touched on that area. Also, if you want to know what I'm currently using, I'm using Mark V GPS. |
Is there anything the Bryce highspeed is good for? ;)
More seriously, afaik if it’s good for spinny, modern offense, it’s likely suitable for the modern defense Fh, right? On paper, there might be one major advantage of the omega vii for modern defense (vs the other countless spinny offensive rubbers): the reduced weight - esp if using an oversized blade.. |
What I meant by modern defense was not just spinny attacking, but attacking (not necessarily just super spinny FH's; I drive the slightest bit more than looping) and chopping, similar to Joo Sae Hyuk's style back in the early 2000's, and other defenders like Yuto Muramatsu and Ma Te.
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Posted By: ckhirnigs113
Date Posted: 01/11/2018 at 4:51pm
I'm also interested if any modern defenders give these new Xiom offerings a try. I've used Xiom Vega Japan for 4-5 years now for modern defence. It works great for everything including chopping, looping, pushing, smashing etc...
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Posted By: MydasDiablo
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 2:56am
How would you compare Omega VII Euro to T05-FX if looking for a rubber that is more forgiving than the harder T05, MX-P etc but still has sufficient speed and spin to finish points against higher level players?
The main factors being, spin sensitivity on passive returns of serve, speed, control and spin.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 6:13am
Euro vii has lesser spin but a great rubber overall. I would go with vii pro instead.
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Posted By: Dream1700
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 12:48pm
both are now available at http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/xiom-omega-vii-pro" rel="nofollow - tabletennis11 but the price bites $58 right now
*edit* out of stock :(
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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 2:02pm
Dream1700 wrote:
both are now available at http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/xiom-omega-vii-pro" rel="nofollow - tabletennis11 but the price bites $58 right now
*edit* out of stock :( |
Wow, why would anyone get this, you can get Tenergy at this price from ping-pong.pl
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Posted By: Dream1700
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 2:40pm
new item hype, shortage, good initial reviews for Omega VII -> $58 on the other hand, omega europe V is on sale right now for $37.
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Posted By: Dream1700
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 4:04pm
Dream1700 wrote:
both are now available at http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/xiom-omega-vii-pro" rel="nofollow - tabletennis11 but the price bites $58 right now
*edit* out of stock :( |
$51 (omega vii) at megaspin.net
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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 01/26/2018 at 5:26pm
rocketman222 wrote:
Dream1700 wrote:
both are now available at http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/xiom-omega-vii-pro" rel="nofollow - tabletennis11 but the price bites $58 right now
*edit* out of stock :( |
Wow, why would anyone get this, you can get Tenergy at this price from ping-pong.pl |
it is out of stock so someone must have bought them, unless TT11 never had them in stock, but you are right a bit hard to swallow at $58
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Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/27/2018 at 1:43am
If someone is interested: I have a 99,9% new black Omega VII Pro, played for less than 20 minutes (too fast for me), actual measures: 15,6 x 15,1 cm (big enough for nearly every "normal" blade). I can sell it for 36€ shipped (with priority and sending-ID). Of course I can send some pictures first.
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Posted By: vajica
Date Posted: 02/04/2018 at 5:45pm
Magic_M wrote:
If someone is interested: I have a 99,9% new black Omega VII Pro, played for less than 20 minutes (too fast for me), actual measures: 15,6 x 15,1 cm (big enough for nearly every "normal" blade). I can sell it for 36€ shipped (with priority and sending-ID). Of course I can send some pictures first. |
max?
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Posted By: Saitama
Date Posted: 02/05/2018 at 6:16am
is it faster than mxp or mantra h?
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Posted By: elefant1975
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 3:27am
$43,43 now http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/xiom-omega-vii-euro
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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 02/19/2018 at 6:06pm
I wonder how the pro is compared to fastarc G1? BTW the pro is 25% off at tt11 this week.
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Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 02/20/2018 at 1:37pm
Had my first session with the O7E --->
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Posted By: wanchope
Date Posted: 02/20/2018 at 3:24pm
I was debating whether to get the o7p or the o7e for my fh. And end up buying the pro. Hopefully it's not something I can't control. I'm currently using fastarc G1.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 02/21/2018 at 6:48am
wanchope wrote:
I was debating whether to get the o7p or the o7e for my fh. And end up buying the pro. Hopefully it's not something I can't control. I'm currently using fastarc G1. | If you can handle the G-1, you'll be fine with the O7P.
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/01/2018 at 12:15pm
Link on comparison between Omega 7 Pro, Rhyzer 48 and Bluestorm Z1 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81719&PID=1016614&title=joola-rhyzer-48-review#1016614" rel="nofollow - here .
To me, this rubber is not spinnier than MX-P on FH stroke (harder hit). It could be spinnier on BH stroke (but not for an advanced player). Still an improvement over Omega V Europe. Can't compare it to Omega V Tour as the O7Pro plays softer.
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Posted By: Rich L
Date Posted: 03/01/2018 at 4:44pm
slevin wrote:
Link on comparison between Omega 7 Pro, Rhyzer 48 and Bluestorm Z1 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81719&PID=1016614&title=joola-rhyzer-48-review#1016614" rel="nofollow - here .
To me, this rubber is not spinnier than MX-P on FH stroke (harder hit). It could be spinnier on BH stroke (but not for an advanced player). Still an improvement over Omega V Europe. Can't compare it to Omega V Tour as the O7Pro plays softer. | If weight is meaningful, the Omega VII rubbers offer a distinct advantage over MX-P. A sheet of Omega VII Pro is about 10g lighter than a sheet of MX-P of the same thickness.
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Posted By: iakovka
Date Posted: 03/02/2018 at 1:55am
slevin wrote:
Link on comparison between Omega 7 Pro, Rhyzer 48 and Bluestorm Z1 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81719&PID=1016614&title=joola-rhyzer-48-review#1016614" rel="nofollow - here .
To me, this rubber is not spinnier than MX-P on FH stroke (harder hit). It could be spinnier on BH stroke (but not for an advanced player). Still an improvement over Omega V Europe. Can't compare it to Omega V Tour as the O7Pro plays softer. |
Just got a new sheet of O7Pro. Will complete your comparison vs. Omega V Tour :).
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Posted By: Basquests
Date Posted: 03/24/2018 at 3:58am
iakovka wrote:
slevin wrote:
Link on comparison between Omega 7 Pro, Rhyzer 48 and Bluestorm Z1 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=81719&PID=1016614&title=joola-rhyzer-48-review#1016614" rel="nofollow - here .
To me, this rubber is not spinnier than MX-P on FH stroke (harder hit). It could be spinnier on BH stroke (but not for an advanced player). Still an improvement over Omega V Europe. Can't compare it to Omega V Tour as the O7Pro plays softer. |
Just got a new sheet of O7Pro. Will complete your comparison vs. Omega V Tour :). |
I can't EJ in 5 or 6 months if you don't complete these comparisons!
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Posted By: Chewy
Date Posted: 03/25/2018 at 5:22am
Emailed Xiom, at Xiom.tt regarding the advertised rubber hardness. For Omega VII models.
Advertised Hardness on ESN Scale: 1) Xiom OV7 Tour - 55.0 Degrees 2) Xiom OV7 Asia - 52.5 Degrees 3) Xiom OV7 Pro - 47.5 Degrees 4) Xiom OV7 Euro - 42.5 Degrees
Hope this helps, just for reference. * *Rubbers might be harder/softer than advertised.
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Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 03/28/2018 at 5:24am
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Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 05/20/2018 at 10:19am
Omega 7 euro the verdict: After intensive training session, O7E is an outstanding backhand rubber: it excells in banana flick. Lifting underspin serves is so easy that you find yourself tempted to accelerate more and more and the balls still land on the table. It is better than anything out there even than a 05 boosted! It is easy even if you are still learning the flick technique, you will learn it 2 x faster compared to any other rubber. For the block it is just so controlable and spinny that you can just win by boocking. For underspin and serves it is so good. I never thought i would find a better ransanter , tenergy , aurus prime , z1 or C1 on the backhand side. And it is lighter than all of the above.
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Posted By: carbon136
Date Posted: 05/21/2018 at 4:31pm
Can anyone compare O7E to T05FX? Their speed, spin, hardness, throw angle, spin sensitivity. Thanks!
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Posted By: AntSj00
Date Posted: 08/16/2018 at 3:52am
Mickael wrote:
Omega 7 euro the verdict: After intensive training session, O7E is an outstanding backhand rubber: it excells in banana flick. Lifting underspin serves is so easy that you find yourself tempted to accelerate more and more and the balls still land on the table. It is better than anything out there even than a 05 boosted! It is easy even if you are still learning the flick technique, you will learn it 2 x faster compared to any other rubber.
For the block it is just so controlable and spinny that you can just win by boocking. For underspin and serves it is so good. I never thought i would find a better ransanter , tenergy , aurus prime , z1 or C1 on the backhand side. And it is lighter than all of the above. |
Can You compare between OVP vs O7P vs O7E ?
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Posted By: jobaumi
Date Posted: 08/16/2018 at 4:39am
Chewy wrote:
Emailed Xiom, at Xiom.tt regarding the advertised rubber hardness. For Omega VII models.
Advertised Hardness on ESN Scale: 1) Xiom OV7 Tour - 55.0 Degrees 2) Xiom OV7 Asia - 52.5 Degrees 3) Xiom OV7 Pro - 47.5 Degrees 4) Xiom OV7 Euro - 42.5 Degrees
Hope this helps, just for reference. * *Rubbers might be harder/softer than advertised.
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Posted By: jobaumi
Date Posted: 08/16/2018 at 4:41am
Realy? I thought Asia is the hardest. Omega v asia is harder then omega v tour.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/16/2018 at 5:07am
Omega vii tour is the hardest but due to the topsheet, all rubbers in the vii series feel.softer than they are supposed to be.
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/29/2018 at 7:51am
what store has good price for this rubbers?
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Posted By: tabletennis11
Date Posted: 08/29/2018 at 11:53pm
piligrim wrote:
what store has good price for this rubbers? |
If you're getting at least 2 sheets of Omega VII (or 1 sheet plus other products putting you over 100 Euros for the automatic discount and free shipping at 80 Euros), I don't think any other store can beat our price.
We're also running a promotion where if you buy an Xiom Feel ZX3 blade and one of any Xiom rubber, we'll give you a sheet of Omega VII Pro for free.
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/30/2018 at 4:15am
$55 its too expensive. I would rather to add $5 and get Tenergy 05
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Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 08/30/2018 at 5:38am
I regret buying myself an O7Pro. Totally wrong choice for a topspin attacker like me. Smash and blocks are good though.
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Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 08/30/2018 at 6:14am
At presports is cheaper and they have Euro, Pro and Asia, at 46.48US
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 08/30/2018 at 8:34am
Tibi is your man.
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 08/30/2018 at 8:48am
forgot about him. thanks Andy
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Posted By: carbon136
Date Posted: 09/09/2018 at 10:48am
Can anyone compare Omega 7 Euro's hardness with T05FX or Bluefire M3 or Acuda S3?
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Posted By: Basquests
Date Posted: 09/09/2018 at 1:47pm
Chewy wrote:
Emailed Xiom, at Xiom.tt regarding the advertised rubber hardness. For Omega VII models.
Advertised Hardness on ESN Scale: 1) Xiom OV7 Tour - 55.0 Degrees 2) Xiom OV7 Asia - 52.5 Degrees 3) Xiom OV7 Pro - 47.5 Degrees 4) Xiom OV7 Euro - 42.5 Degrees
Hope this helps, just for reference. * *Rubbers might be harder/softer than advertised.
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How does this compare to stuff like MX-P, which is advertised at 47.5 degrees on the ESN scale.
Also, something like Omega 5 tour which is my BH is 48~ degrees.
So how on Earth is their new tour gonna be a whole 7 degrees harder!
Those values seem crazy high.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/10/2018 at 12:38am
The tour has 55 degrees but it feels.softer.than 55 because of the softer topsheet.
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Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 09/19/2018 at 7:30am
Hi friends, O7P with pips structure of t80 (I find it in google images in china site) , with thin top sheet above pips like all tenergy rubbers, sounds me like ... t80 . If 47.5 euro degree is like 36 japan degree . So ... rubber for balance . It's wonderful although I prefer 45 degree euro hardness and it's soo a pity that there is not t80 with 45 degree sponge or from other brands .... but with thin top sheet above pips. May be like O7P with 45 degree sponge hardness uou. Good luck friends.
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Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 10/07/2018 at 1:09am
Hi friends, bought o7pro 2.0mm and compare with tenergy 80. o7pro isn't like t80. o7pro pips structure is like donic z2, andro v47 and and play like them. good luck
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Posted By: skevros
Date Posted: 05/13/2019 at 7:37pm
what are the differences between Omega V Euro DF and Omega VII Euro ?
speed... spin... control... hardness...
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 05/14/2019 at 4:07am
skevros wrote:
what are the differences between Omega V Euro DF and Omega VII Euro ?
speed... spin... control... hardness... |
They are very different.
Speed - VII Euro Spin - Equal Control - V Euro Hardness - V Euro is harder
They also feel quite different. VII Euro has much more pop and speedglue feeling than V Euro. V Euro of course has great feeling too but VII Euro feels more more dynamic. Of course that comes with less control, especially for the short game and such.
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Posted By: skevros
Date Posted: 05/14/2019 at 7:17am
interesting....
Omega VII E, how speed at which rubber can be compared ?
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 05/14/2019 at 6:35pm
skevros wrote:
interesting....
Omega VII E, how speed at which rubber can be compared ? |
It's probably the fastest 42.5 degree sponge rubber currently available. It's speed feels comparable to Tenergy 05 but feels much softer. It is faster than 05fx.
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Posted By: skevros
Date Posted: 05/15/2019 at 8:48am
i am using Hexer Grip 2,1 mm on forehand, it seems a little slow to me....
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