Stronger Wood
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Topic: Stronger Wood
Posted By: rocketman222
Subject: Stronger Wood
Date Posted: 02/11/2018 at 9:43pm
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Butterfly will soon come out with super wood series priced starting 300$ for a 5-ply ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 4:46pm
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Very interesting. I wonder whether this super-wood qualifies as "natural wood" for Rule 2.4.2 "At least 85% of the blade by thickness shall be of natural wood". I suppose not, given how it's obtained. Quoting from the article:
On the other hand, you probably won't want to have thick layers of this stuff in your racket anyway, 80% reduction in thickness also means it has a 5x higher mass density. But I can see the marketing: "the first wood-reinforced all wood blade"; "the non-composite composite blade", "the composite blade with all-wood feeling", etc. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
wrote:Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 4:50pm
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BTW, I guess this stuff is so dense and has no pores, so that it cannot be glued with hide glue. If Nittaku picks this up for an Acoustic SuperWood or Violin SuperWood blade, they'll have to use epoxy on these, as well.  ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 6:28pm
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Sounds like the second veneer of Persson Powerplay. ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: passifid
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 6:39pm
| Might be interesting as a extremely hard outer ply for pips or ox |
Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 7:22pm
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"Very interesting. I wonder whether this super-wood qualifies as "natural wood" for Rule 2.4.2 "At least 85% of the blade by thickness shall be of natural wood". I suppose not, given how it's obtained. " It still wood. So I don't see why they would consider it something else. It would be interesting to see what the manufacturers do with this. If they pick it up at all. Could it mean a very large sweet spot? Would it be used as the center ply, or as the outer ones? FdT
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 7:32pm
It is no longer natural. At least, it is not found in nature that way. Super-wood is deeply different down to the molecular level. The heating/burning treatments that are normally applied to the current plies are physical treatments and generally preserve the wood structure. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 7:48pm
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"It is no longer natural. At least, it is not found in nature that way. Super-wood is deeply different down to the molecular level." Define "natural". "Next, the wood goes through a compression phase to collapse the walls between individual cells. Heat is added to encourage new chemical bonds while the wood continues to be compressed. Those processes are able to strip out certain polymers to allow the new wood to reform while also keeping other polymers essential to the wood's strength." Sorry I still see it as wood, essentially. It is processed, but it still made of the same molecules it was made before the process. The molecules have not been 100% replaced. Fdt
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 02/12/2018 at 8:31pm
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Kokutaku and Armstrong have been using compression on Jpens for a long time looks like they just need to add a couple steps. ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |