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That shot though! (Boll Vs Liang)

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Topic: That shot though! (Boll Vs Liang)
Posted By: Simon_plays
Subject: That shot though! (Boll Vs Liang)
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 11:16am
I think this rally definitely deserves its own thread! Whoof!

(Point starting at 12:20. 6.00 is also amazing. And if you have 16 minutes the whole match is worth watching.)





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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 11:43am
Amazing match. It seems TB was injured at the end...I hope nothing serious.

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Posted By: danseemiller
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 3:29pm
The Chinese have perfected the art of hiding the ball on the serve with their body. Not a single serve of Lingkun's is visible at contact.
For sure they practice this.


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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 3:37pm
"The Chinese have Lingkun has perfected the art of hiding the ball on the serve with their his body. Not a single serve of Lingkun's is visible at contact.
For sure they practice this." Smile


Posted By: GabrielTopspin
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 5:32pm
everybody hide there service (look at per gerell, maharu yoshimura etc), except timo and vladi hide there service, timo and samsononever two gentleman of this sport,


Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 06/01/2018 at 9:33pm
THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS ... CNT general Motto, taken as general guidance. Outspoken display of the poor morality of the Ping Pang Athletes.   



https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_end_justifies_the_means

"exitus ācta probat" Latinisma
“the result justifies the deeds”.

Who said that all is fair in love
and war?
-- The earliest known origin
of the sentiment "all is fair
in love in war" is found in
poet John Lyly's novel
"Euphues: The Anatomy of
Wit," published in 1579.
The novel recounts the
romantic adventures of a
wealthy and attractive
young man, and includes
the quote "the rules of fair
play do not apply in love, in warfare and tabletennis .."



Posted By: danseemiller
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 4:40am
It's hard to respect anyone who hides their serve.



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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 6:29am
 


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 8:17am
Ridiculous shotmaking from Boll at 12:20.... I mean...you can't do better than two successful hand switches (the right arm FH was surprisingly powerful!), and follow it up with another incredibly away from the table BH sidespin loop, and finish the point with a FH fade chop. It's gonna appear in so many highlight reels! 

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Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 10:02am
Man, Timo is a God. Very nice points at 6:00 and 12:20. Thanks for posting it.


Posted By: chongqinghotpot
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 6:56pm
Not all Chinese players hide their serves. At least ML and ZJK serve as legally as possible.

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Posted By: danseemiller
Date Posted: 06/02/2018 at 7:33pm
Ma Long hides it with his head. ZJK when he does the reverse pendulum.

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Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/03/2018 at 12:27am
I agree with Danseemiller. Many Chinese players hide the serve with their head or shoulder.  Timo would have won if LJK served legally in this match.


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 06/03/2018 at 12:28am
Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

Ma Long hides it with his head. ZJK when he does the reverse pendulum.

Yes, Ma Long hides the ball with his head.


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 06/04/2018 at 1:28am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

Ma Long hides it with his head. ZJK when he does the reverse pendulum.

Yes, Ma Long hides the ball with his head.

And Timo delays the removal of his free arm nowadays too... 

No need to be such fanboys, professionals have to get every edge they can, the responsibility for calling serves should remain with the referees. 




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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 06/06/2018 at 1:41am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

I agree with Danseemiller. Many Chinese players hide the serve with their head or shoulder.  Timo would have won if LJK served legally in this match.


and waldner would won if he would quit booze. but in this universe boll lost


Posted By: danseemiller
Date Posted: 06/06/2018 at 8:35am
It is really hard to figure out how players like Samsonov, Boll, and Ovtcharov serve perfectly legal and 70 percent of the other top players do as well yet they don't make an issue out of it. Quite often the illegal server wins the match directly because of this. It doesn't seem fair. It definitely isn't fair.
As far as leaving it up to the umpires- well they are just scorekeepers. An umpires sole duty is to see that the match is played fairly under the rules and their ONE job they don't do.


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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 06/06/2018 at 9:15am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

Ma Long hides it with his head. ZJK when he does the reverse pendulum.


Yes, Ma Long hides the ball with his head.



how you can hide ball with head? his serves perfect. but there is many european players who serve totally illegal


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 06/06/2018 at 9:35am
Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

It is really hard to figure out how players like Samsonov, Boll, and Ovtcharov serve perfectly legal and 70 percent of the other top players do as well yet they don't make an issue out of it. Quite often the illegal server wins the match directly because of this. It doesn't seem fair. It definitely isn't fair.
As far as leaving it up to the umpires- well they are just scorekeepers. An umpires sole duty is to see that the match is played fairly under the rules and their ONE job they don't do.


If you can't beat them join em    no use whining about it... When you're a professional you need every edge you can!



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