Edit 2 a video with strokes on a table just post onto your searchbar and it should show up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBefuwYBng&feature=youtu.be

My coach told me my inconsistent backhand loop was due to the end of the whip start position being inconsistent and having different angles. If you do not start at a consistent repeatable position you will never be consistent. He wanted me to have a horizontal bat position at the end of the whip position for all topspin loops both against backspin and topspin. If you look at the top 10 players they pretty much all do this. Most learners do not do this at all. Check out Ma Long at 12 seconds and how closed his  bat is at the end of the whip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvAc6phK4bg

The other thing that is needed is the forward bowing down and coming up during the whip process. This helps the bat get horizontal and then more open as you come out of the bow.

See this in the above video at 12 seconds.

If you do not come out of the bow your shot will go into the net. The body movement helps with power and it makes the shot more effortless.

Post a video of your shot for the best feedback.

If you're able to upload a short video, I'm sure many people will be able to identify the main issues right away!

1) Don't straighten your arm or use the shoulder at all, keep the elbow bent and your arm close to you throughout the stroke

2) Release the wrist fully. You can happily end the stroke with your wrist fully bent to the right (with your racket heat pointing to the right of you

I wouldn't suggest shadow stroking until the errors have been corrected and you are sure you are shadowing the right thing, or he may reinforce bad habits.

Sounds to me like just making a conscious effort to keep your wrist in place would solve the issue, hard to tell by a text description though...

For topspin, you have to already be on top of the ball, covering it from above and brush the top part of the ball. You also have to keep that angle, otherwise, the ball will kick off the table.

Hope this helps.

From what I saw from the video above, I think you need to take a step back and work on the fundamentals before you try to do a backhand loop.

There are many people who are willing to help here, so if you're not too shy about the videos, I'm sure it'll help you improve.

That said, a coach will be the quickest!

 But anyways since I showed a lil visual of what happens since you guys are experienced I wanted to ask in your strokes can you guys snap your wrist while keeping the racket angle consistent? Beccause I feel like I understand the fundamentals like power from the ground, how to graze or hit, etc. But like when I hit the forward direction my wrist just naturally snaps forward and messes up my whole racket angle. 

That's a BH loop of incoming underspin shot.

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I can generally keep the racket angle about the same. I think most people do even when they snap their wrist. That said, I'm really bad at the backhand drive against underspin, so I'm still working on it. If anything, the racket angle generally opens a bit from a closed angle to help lift the backspin.

Against topspin or no spin, the racket angle stays closed and doesn't really change.

In the long run, I think it'll be more beneficial to take it slower and work on your counterhit first (which is why I asked for a video) because the strokes all build upon each other.

The correct way of using the wrist movement (on both FH and BH) is to focus more on the radial deviation/ulnar deviation plane, not the flexion/extension (see below). This allows you to have a consistent racket angle when hitting. 

Yeah I agree but my wrist naturally does flexion and extension so do you know how to control it?

Your stroke needs to be more diagonal. From a lower position closer to your body to a higher position further from your body. You also need to close your racket angle more before you swing forward. Having a closed racket angle is very important. That directional movement plus the closed racket angle will help you control the flexion and extension, and use more radial and ulnar deviation.

So their is the link just copy and paste it into your address bar and it should show up. And if you see my backhand stroke it should really emphasize the racket angle problem i'm talking about where my wrist just naturally closes its angle and it really creates inconsistency. 

You do not have forehand or backhand loops, as was said already.

Proper technique will take years to learn.

Get a coach. 

Bardock wrote: Yeah I agree but my wrist naturally does flexion and extension so do you know how to control it?

 

Rotate your wrist and forearm forward some more until you can see your palm some. That will give you a start on getting yourself ready to do a BH topspin. That will take away some of the "slap" in your motion. If you have been getting away with the BH you showed in your first vid in your match play, more power to you, you won't get a lot better trying to hit BH with any power using the stroke from your 1st vid.

People state legs being too wide =  can't move. Well only if you are doing a split, the lower, the wider the better. Hand movement is easy to fix, almost every wrong stroke comes from the legs not the hands.