DAWEI Equipment Suspended?
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Topic: DAWEI Equipment Suspended?
Posted By: midway2k
Subject: DAWEI Equipment Suspended?
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 1:37am
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Got this news from the USATT website, anybody know what's going on? so no more dawei for tournaments? http://www.usatt.org/news1/DAWEI_Equipment_Suspended.shtml - http://www.usatt.org/news1/DAWEI_Equipment_Suspended.shtml |
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Posted By: melarimsa
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 3:08am
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The ITTF Executive Committee wishes to inform you that all ITTF authorisations for DAWEI equipment have been suspended as of 1st October 2006 and all DAWEI racket coverings withdrawn from ITTF lists with immediate effect !!!
Wow... but why ? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 4:52am
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Can't see it on the ITTF website, so is it true? The only Dawei equipment the ITTF approves is their rubbers, so their blades and other stuff would not be affected. I love their rubbers and will continue using them regardless. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: *JC*
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 7:35am
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i would not be with out my dawei blade - so im lucky that ittf dont have to approve blades.
PS: im very lucky that i have a spare wavestone.... ------------- Thats not a knife THIS is a knife. Thats not a knife THATS a spoon. |
Posted By: GantZ
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 10:48am
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WOW? Explanation is in order. Seems more like a bad April fools joke to me, even though its not April. ------------- Equipment: Petr Korbel Sriver EL |
Posted By: moshimoshi52
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 11:22am
| http://www.daweisports.com - www.daweisports.com has also been down recently |
Posted By: kollins
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 12:49pm
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WHAT! I love my 388D. Eff that. good thing Im switching soon anyway, I guess. I wonder why? Typical USATT not giving a reason eiher. ------------- Shibutani ST Tackifire C Feint Soft |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 1:11pm
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I talked to them last night. Dawei claims that it goes back to a dispute in charges when they sponsored the worlds in '02. Kind of like the usatt/kspin deal I guess. I'm just surprised that the usatt felt driven to put it up there so fast and so prominent. Something tells me there's some motivations here. Usatt also told me they would be happy to approve the rubber if dawei paid the fees. Surprise, huh? ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: kollins
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 1:30pm
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Fees are Fees but I agree, it stinks of something politcal and beurocratic. ------------- Shibutani ST Tackifire C Feint Soft |
Posted By: ttman
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 3:38pm
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they will be usatt approved in a few days ------------- |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 6:48pm
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I don't get why this is not announced on the ITTF website, surely this affect everyone, not just the USA, so it should be announced formally by the ITTF? ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: ttplayer05
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 7:32pm
| yea, it affects everyone, just not in the USA |
Posted By: 7homuz
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 8:17pm
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you must be kidding... oh no! ------------- Blade:Darker 7P-2A Forehand: Donic Bluefire M2 MAX Backhand: Palio CK531A 0.6 |
Posted By: ttman
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 8:23pm
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shouldnt be off the list for long and wont effect usa customers because its going to be usatt approved in a few days meaning allowed for all usa touraments ------------- |
Posted By: Ikaros21
Date Posted: 10/25/2006 at 11:55pm
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what am I gonna do now.I have tournament this weekend ------------- I'm going up 1986 NooB Blade: Galaxy T4 FH: Globe 999 BH: Butterfly Cermet I'm not re-gluing anymore |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 12:14am
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go and play and don't think or say a thing about it. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 6:19pm
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I Emailed the ITTF regarding and got this reply: ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: fatcomet
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 9:39pm
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"Dear ITTF,
Due to your 'sound and correct decision,' I'm now changing to Dawei Inspirit rubbers. Thanks for watching out for us tt players. I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said FRESH and there were Dice in the mirror. Signed, Fatcomet  "
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 10:11pm
hah hah ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: samdeliman
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 10:25pm
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Ridiculous. Suspension on use of tt equipment should be based on adherence to rules and regulations. Monetary dispute between ittf and dawei should involve accountants and lawyers, NOT tt players around the world. shame on ittf. ------------- love dat sport |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/26/2006 at 11:21pm
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Well said! I (gently) pointed this out in my Email to the ITTF, but it seems they don't see it that way! Perhaps some more of us should Email them, and point out that they are supposed to represent the players! ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: gundam
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 12:10am
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Dear Adham Shara,
For the sake of the table tennis community, could ITTF please revise their stated rules on "How to achieve an authorization for Racket coverings" (http://www.ittf.com/equipment/Racket_cover_APPROVAL.pdf) to include a statement along the lines of "any unpaid monies will result to non approval". Regards ------------- 
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 12:50am
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I like it! I wonder if they can actually legally suspend rubbers if the outstanding money is not actually related to the payments for approval. I think both gundam and samdeliman's point are very valid, and perhaps if some more of us send Emails pointing this out to the ITTF, they may reconsider (doubt it though!). Remember if they don't hear any complaints, they think we're happy!
------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 2:00am
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How do you recognize a stupid character ? He's doing stupid things . Then he also believes he's smarter than the rest of the stupid human race who will not realize that he's doing stupid things. He keeps doing so until he's prevented from doing so by force or by law decision. We should ask our representatives at the ITTF not to reinstate the actual board at the next elections. These people have clearly demonstrate their stupidity. ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 2:37am
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Do we HAVE representatives at the ITTF? ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: Wheelie
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 4:10am
| The way I see it is that Dawei owes it to all its customers to pay the damn fees on time. Buterfly, Stiga, Donic, Andro, DHS, Friendship, etc. don't have this problem. I think all you Dawei users should email them and not the ITTF. |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 4:21am
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It's NOT a standard fee for rubber approval. This is a different charge related to some event that Dawei sponsored about 4 years ago, and Dawei claims that it's a mistake since it's not them that incurred the charge but another company... So it's got nothing to do with Dawei looking after it's customers... ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 10:48am
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Dawei has always paid the approval fees. During the '02 worlds a marketing company handled that event. They solicited dawei as a sponsor, and dawei paid the appropriate fees. Now this company no longer exists. ITTF has no better recourse, so they're going after dawei stationary and sporting goods.
A lot of this is in the spin of the terminology. ITTF calls them delinquent charges. Dawei calls them unjust charges. A court would call them disputed charges. Seems to me if they had a legitimate case they'd take it through the proper channels of court. However, in an international deal like this there may be no court. Unfortunately, that also means the current dawei company may also have no recourse. Personally, I've decided to believe dawei and went ahead and placed a $400 order with them. The guy I talk too seems like a very nice guy. I'm sure one way or the other it will get worked out. If I have to I'll get it usatt approved. I know that doesn't help you guys in other countries though. The rubbers they're making now are so good I consider it a legitimate risk to take. Inspirit is purely fantastic and I believe saviga will be even better. I'm not letting anybody order it until I've made sure they're full aware of the current situation. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: moshimoshi52
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 11:16am
| How much do ITTF equipment approval fees cost? |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 11:37am
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I can tell you usatt, but not ittf. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: moshimoshi52
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 12:54pm
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Then tell me! (^_^) I bet the ITTF is costlier....
But aside from just paying the fee, there has to be some actual testing/analysis of the equipment before it gets approved, right? Even if Dawei "used" to be ITTF approved, I would think that the USATT would do their own evaluation. That's got to take some time. |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 1:14pm
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Nah, they just accept ittf. They have a 25% discount on the individual rubber fee for ittf approvd rubbers. On a deal like this, they know why the rubber was suspended. Not because of any physical issues. Oh, there's a $250 fee up front for a brand. Then it's $25 per sheet on that brand. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: moshimoshi52
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 9:48pm
| That's not very expensive. Maybe I should start cooking up my own rubbers (^_^) |
Posted By: Wheelie
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 8:13am
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OK, thanks for clearing that up.
I just ordered 388D 
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Posted By: 7homuz
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 8:28pm
i don't care. i'm just going to use the inspirits for practice and non-tournament play until they approve it again. it sounds like such a great rubber. however i DID have to buy a cj8000 2-side loop for my rpb since i have tournament next week  ------------- Blade:Darker 7P-2A Forehand: Donic Bluefire M2 MAX Backhand: Palio CK531A 0.6 |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 1:26am
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So is anyone else going to Email the ITTF and express their views? If no one complains they'll think they made the right decision (as they do already!). ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: D4VOW
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 8:28am
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Do you honestly think the ITTF are going to take any notice of a couple of complaints by members from here when money is involved. A handful of complaints does'nt speak for much when you consider how many millions play the sport. ------------- Blade:Stiga Offensive Classic (FL-Master) FH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0) BH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0) |
Posted By: servio
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:16am
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well if we try they might (small chance) reconsider.
but if we don't try then there isn't even this small chance. ------------- who says tabletennis isnt a sport? http://www.tabletennisdayton.com/files/47wttc-superpoints.wmv |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 8:36pm
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Yes, well said! They certainly reponded to my Emails quite quickly... ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |