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Topic: LIEBHERR Men��s World Cup - Paris
Posted By: bogeyhunter9
Subject: LIEBHERR Men��s World Cup - Paris
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 2:12pm
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Anyone have this VDO? Want to see how terrible Timo was......fast exit after 2 matches!!!p - Paris, France ------------- Rating : 2000 Hallmark Aurora + TSP Curl P1-R 0.5 mm/Globe 999 blue. Dr.N Firewall Plus+Globe 999 Red+Destroyer OX/Saviga V OX. Speed glue long pips.. |
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Posted By: surler
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 2:25pm
| I'm looking forward to these matches too. Please some friends from Paris have them shared with us. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 2:37pm
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yeah, i wanna see those boll games, too!! but, unfortunately, i don't think they were televised. i think the tv matches are from the quarters on. let's hope that's not the case!! |
Posted By: sluskas
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 3:04pm
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yes put the links here, because eurosport will only send the final out :S ------------- Donic Defplay Senso FH:Donic Slice 40 1.5mm BH:Donic Slice 40 1.2mm str�dl |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/27/2006 at 3:09pm
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Posted By: Boll_rules
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 12:00am
 Timo Boll the title holder lost in the 1st round. He has one match left to keep his pride and dignity.
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Posted By: Patmandidily
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 12:42am
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Timo's group was pretty tough. Really, any of the top-10 European guys could beat one another and in their group, a lot of the matches would be very unpredictable (minus the more predictable matches from Chen Weixing). Part of it was that him and Samsonov have played in a million European finals too, so that match was a coinflip. Final prediction - Ma Lin beats Wang Liqin 4-2, maybe 4-1 if it's a good day ------------- Blade - Bastian Steger Flared (Butterfly) Rubber - Sriver 2.1 FH 802-40 2.2 BH __________________ |
Posted By: fatcomet
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 1:25am
| in that case, ill pick chen over samsonov for 3rd |
Posted By: paullau512
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 2:21am
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Yeah Kreanga played very well ! ------------- Stiga Allround Classic Haifu Shark II Max both sides |
Posted By: pjeremy69
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 11:46am
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 12:27pm
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thank you so much for that. that was beautifully done!!
i hope you do this for a living, cuz you obviously have some talent!! |
Posted By: phrixion
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 2:50pm
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Thanks pjeremy69. C'est tres bien! Love the montage clip and nice camera work. Will you upload your videos to megauploads or anything?
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Posted By: crs2
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 3:06pm
| Thanks pjeremy69! Do you have the matches? |
Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 4:53pm
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Thats Nice Thanks alot . waiting for the matches. |
Posted By: Pegasus
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 5:45pm
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thanks pjeremy69
can u send the full matches to megaupload or a direct link they have a nice quality ------------- BLADE:KLH special_yasaka carbon 3d_Kreanga carbon RUBBER:sriver markv desto catapult sriver is the best |
Posted By: pingpongfreak
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 6:10pm
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I like the view of your videos, you can see all the spins the pro's put on their balls. Thanks for the clips. Full matches would be greatly appreciated. :) ------------- I LOVE PING PONG |
Posted By: vivleien
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 6:11pm
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I've uploaded photos and little clips I've taken during the first day. The videos quality isn't very good, since I've used my digital camera...
Nothing is sorted, just the names given by the camera. It's here: http://tennisdetable.net.free.fr/worldcup2006/ |
Posted By: 3ageeb
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 11:10pm
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Can somebody tell me if he found any video for sayed lashin from egypt by luck ?? plzzzzzzzz ------------- http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saleh121007largeak1.jpg">  Ahmed Saleh-Best Player in Egypt
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Posted By: Boll_rules
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 11:28pm
| Timo Boll killed El-Sayed Lashin 11-1, 11-2, 11-2, 11-3. The dethroned title holder left with dignity. |
Posted By: samdeliman
Date Posted: 10/28/2006 at 11:53pm
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which website shows the scores of matches played? thanks. ------------- love dat sport |
Posted By: samdeliman
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 12:01am
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ok i found it. thanks anyway. ------------- love dat sport |
Posted By: dinchu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 1:21am
| can someone find a match of liu song champion of latin america? |
Posted By: paullau512
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 2:44am
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Today the semi-finals :
Wang Liqin vs Ma Lin Samsononv Vladimir vs Wang Hao And the third place match and the Final ------------- Stiga Allround Classic Haifu Shark II Max both sides |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 3:47am
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Hopefully..someone can record them! Let's all hope on a Wang Liqin - Samsonov final like I said in the beginning! 
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Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:35am
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ma lin beated liqin what a surprise
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Posted By: sukraat
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:40am
| ya man and goddamnit in straight games i smell something fishy like the 2004 olympic semi finals of wang liqin vs wang hao. |
Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:48am
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HUH ,,, Kreanga beated Timo boll 4/2 and Samsonov too . hahaha He is very bad AND Wang liqin krushed HENZELL William 11/4 11/6 11/5 11/7.
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Boll_rules wrote:
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 7:02am
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Wang Hao won his match against Samsonov! MA LIN vs WANG HAO in the final!!1  Also looking forward to the bronze medal match of Wang Liqin vs. Samsonov! |
Posted By: TT_Freak
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 7:20am
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I guess Wang Liqin is finally slowing down, either that or Ma Lin is playing the tournament of his life. ------------- Violin F1 Actor 10g at 3 and 9 10g at 12 20g at the end of handle |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 8:00am
in my mind, most of the games between the chinese team members are "fishy" as you put it. i think as far as the chinese team is concerned, the world cup "belongs" to ma lin, so i'll be shocked if the score in the final later is anything other than 4-0 or 4-1, ma lin, inspite of the fact that wang hao has looked very good of late. cctv5 is gonna show that and the 3rd place match live starting at 9 am, eastern... anyway, somebody from outside of china has got to beat him here and boll was the only one who could, but he didn't even get out of his group! |
Posted By: sukraat
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 9:04am
| takaaki u are absolutely correct as u see in the japan open liqin crushed wang hao in straight games which showed how good he is right now and how much difference is their between ma lin and wang hao and also liqin beat ma lin in the japan open recently so how the hell this loss take place as far as boll is concerned he has problems playing kreangas backhand and samsanov so his loss is justified anyway i support wang hao not ma lin i am sick and tired seeing him win the world cup titles. |
Posted By: alfie
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 9:38am
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got a feeling Samsonov is going to take WL down ------------- Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+ BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:11am
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SF
Wang Li Qin vs Ma Lin http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UX1DEVO9 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UX1DEVO9 |
Posted By: aanvaller
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:19am
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Thanks!!! ------------- blade: BTY Korbel Magichand fh: DHS Hurricane 3 bh: Yasaka Mark V gps |
Posted By: thi pham
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:47am
| takaaki and sukraat , both of u r may be rite cuase, is Boll lost will drop him down to # 3 in world ranking and if Ma lin Win only win he will be in #2 and Wang liqin still # 1 no matter he win or lose and looking at world ranking now , it is Chinnese rule, is it rite?????? if you said it fishy , i have to agree with you too. and thanks for sharing your opions |
Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:54am
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SF
Wang Hao vs Samsonov http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AG9JYBG5 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AG9JYBG5 |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:02am
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[QUOTE=stanleyhu]SF
Great Video. Cant Believe Wang Lost, But thanks alot. ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:03am
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Whens the final? ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: alfie
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:04am
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Ma Lin just won the final 4-3 ------------- Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+ BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
Posted By: opinari
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:06am
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I admit it does seem fishy, but in the interview with Wang after the match, he sounds pretty honest about the loss. He blames bad serve/receive technique, but expressly says he's happy that it's an all Chinese final.
If you wanted to dump the match, why would you dump it 4-0? And would you advertise the fact that you're happy for the rest of the team? Maybe the simplest explanation is true? He lost the match. |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:07am
Really good for him. Who was it against again! ? Haha. I really need to find a site to stay updated about new tournaments and events cause I had no clue this was going on! ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:09am
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nevermind ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:42am
| THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH STANLEYHU!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: wfwfitz
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:48am
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Thanks Stanley and pjeremy69. ------------- Wfwfitz Xiom Axelo Xiom Sigma Pro Red and Black Butterfly Amultart Tenergy 05 Black and Red 64 |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:58am
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Great videos. stanleyhu, thanks!!! ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:59am
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mostly people that post trash about the chinese are the barzileans like jornalista, why' there are many japanese descents in brazil and they hate chinese most penholders in brzil play jap ,well they are extremely wise to know the secrets of the chinese ,like dump theories maybe jornalista must have a sattelite dish in his yard to know wlq dumped to wang hao or he can stand wlq losing?
takaki you call fishy when japan use second hand chinese to play for japan like kanizawa ,yoshida,iseki to play teams, who is fishy? |
Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 12:34pm
Thank u very much . 
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Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 12:43pm
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wow the vladi vs wang hao game... it kinda really sucked, hopefully the ma vs wlq will be better
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... cant wait to see the finalsPosted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 1:49pm
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QF
Samsonov vs Chen Wei Xing http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HPKE15CD - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HPKE15CD from bokett |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 2:31pm
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Posted By: calvinding
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:46pm
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Could someone please post the final game between Ma Lin and Wang Hao? Thanks. ------------- CDing Blade: BTY TBS FH: Skyline III BH: Sriver EL |
Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:49pm
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QF
Wang Li Qin vs Chuan Chih Yuan http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RJL4WKVO - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RJL4WKVO from bokett |
Posted By: Li0001
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 6:54pm
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Thanks a lot, Stanley. You're really great. ------------- lee |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 7:03pm
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I would like to see it too. ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 7:44pm
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QF
Wang Hao vs Schlager http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YYVKU2X0 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YYVKU2X0 from bokett |
Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 10:14pm
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QF
Ma Lin vs Kreanga http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KLQWQ8JU - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KLQWQ8JU from bokett |
Posted By: pingpong1
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:30pm
| really looking to see timo boll's game.......... |
Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:42pm
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Thank you very much Stanley! ------------- Violin FL Tenergy 05 2.1 Black Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red |
Posted By: divinity911
Date Posted: 10/29/2006 at 11:52pm
| I really doubt Wang lost to Ma on purpose. Ma has won it so many times where as Wang needs to win the World Cup to get 2 of the 3 triple crown titles. If they were letting each other win as you said, Wang should've lost to Ma at the World Championships and Ma should lose to Wang in World Cup, that way they both only need the gold medal to seal their place in history. |
Posted By: dinchu
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 12:40am
| is it possible to get any match of Liu Song? |
Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 12:48am
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Hear, hear! |
Posted By: thisishui
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 1:19am
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unbelievable.....wang lost badly he was suppose to take it home, guess he has no luck in the world cups the world championship is a much bigger and tougher event.....he will take that when the world championship comes ;p theres always next year for the world cup....haha they hold this event every year unlike the world champion and olympic.....wlq is still young! only 27! hes gonna play till hes 40 like waldner! |
Posted By: -ljl-
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 2:16am
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boll ? where? ------------- Blade:Yasaka Gatien Extra |
Posted By: langtumuadong
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 2:55am
| Boll? he was out very soon, and I think if he'd gone thru' his group, he'd be defeated by Chinese stars, all Wang Hao, Ma Lin and Wang Liqin in good form. simply they are ruling pingpong world |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 3:47am
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i don't know about that because Wang Liqin was not in his best form. ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: Balint
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 4:02am
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Kreanga just went back to his old blade, He was not really succesfull with the ulc... ------------- Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit FH: DHS SKYLINE 3 2.2mm BH: DHS SKYLINE 3 2.2mm Glue SZIKO PREMIUM SPEED ;-) |
Posted By: divinity911
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 4:07am
| I don't know about Wang playing until he is 40. We are talking about the Chinese Table Tennis team here, where world champions are expected to retire by 30. Wang is definitely in superb physical shape, but there are simply too many up and coming guys. Window of opportunity closing for Ma and Wang. |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 6:15am
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Maybe WLQ looses interest in whatever is not world championship or Olympics. Because he has the exact skills needed to beat Ma Lin. That said, when Ma Lin is "in the zone", nobody can stop him. Wang Hao lost because he couldn't change tactic at the end, which is exactly what Ma Lin did in serving short on Wang Hao FH. Ma Lin is undoubtly the best player at the mmnt but what a brat ! His behaviour at the table is getting worse and worse. He doesn't even bother to notice when he has a lucky ball ! ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: K-NA
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 7:28am
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hi, is it possible to have the final with wang hao and ma lin please?? |
Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 10:00am
stanleyhu thank you veru much this is Very nice .
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Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 10:46am
too bad the quality isn't that great ha? 
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Posted By: stanleyhu
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 11:14am
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Ma Lin vs Wang Hao http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HZ1SMIZL - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HZ1SMIZL |
Posted By: realysun
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 11:42am
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Thank you very much~~~ 'stanleyhu'~~~ |
Posted By: josephjuan
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 12:10pm
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Thanks for your video, Stanley.
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Posted By: calvinding
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 2:31pm
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Thanks Stanley!! ------------- CDing Blade: BTY TBS FH: Skyline III BH: Sriver EL |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 9:49pm
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Thank you very much stanley.! A great final. ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: Boll_rules
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 11:35pm
| Boll is still the best! |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 11:47pm
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wang hao's backhand is faster than before but ma lin blocked them all pretty well. have you guys seen wang hao return any of ma lin's rpb? ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: DHSriver
Date Posted: 10/30/2006 at 11:48pm
| It's great. Thanks for the video, Stanley. |
Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 12:35am
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Yes i noticed this too, wangs backhand is significantly more powerfull, it was already great but now its even better... i think ma barely used his RPB that game, in fact i only recall him using it twice and no wang didnt return them, but ma only uses his rpb for opening attacks, he never really uses it in rallies |
Posted By: MildSeven
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 1:56am
| schlagers new hair sucks |
Posted By: non3
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:45am
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I agree with the hair comment ------------- 2x Babolat Pure Storm Tour Gosen Micro Sheep 16 @ 58lbs |
Posted By: Boll_rules
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 4:27am
| Does anyone have Samsonov vs Wang Liqin |
Posted By: mrsultan
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 4:37am
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Firstly Can someone put Samsonov vs Wang Liqin match and is there any match of Joo available can someone put it up tat if possible? Secondly regrading all you pplz comments that Wang lost on purpose although for some reason i want to believe this but the fact of matter is that in Table Tennis one can easily have a bad day when he is not sighting the ball to well and as pointed out by Wang a weak recieve can seal 4-0 thrashing at this level. And besides Wang Liqin style of play in my opinion though comprehensive but risky and when it pays off its specacular but when it does not it looks quite ordinary Yes i am taking about his counter LOOPING.
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Posted By: crs2
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 5:55am
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Schlager needs more than a haircut, he needs confidence. I felt bad for Liqin but come on, did you see how well Ma Lin played? Dou you know if an official DVD of this world cup will be available? |
Posted By: vivleien
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 6:25am
The French Table Tennis Federation will produce a double DVD (8 hours) and will sell it in France. You may be able to order it on the internet when it will come out. Regarding Wang Liqin performance, I really think there was no arrangement between players. I was there and you could see Wang Liqin was not missing shots on purpose. Ma Lin used topspin serves very well and Wang Liqin didn't find effective returns (when he was actually able to read the spin!). Ma Lin prevent Wang Liqin from playing forehands, and Wang Liqin missed backhands he normally doesn't. It wasn't much interesting to see but it was just because of Ma Lin's good tactic and Wang Liqin's bad form. During the final, I really thinked Wang Hao would win. He was faster, more powerful and with better placement. But Ma Lin, at the end, managed to have Wang Hao playing in his forehand and counter loop it in style. But IMO Wang Hao was the best player of the tournament. |
Posted By: bogeyhunter9
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 9:38am
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Wrong. He's not the chamption. not enough? Didn't even get out of group play. ------------- Rating : 2000 Hallmark Aurora + TSP Curl P1-R 0.5 mm/Globe 999 blue. Dr.N Firewall Plus+Globe 999 Red+Destroyer OX/Saviga V OX. Speed glue long pips.. |
Posted By: mafia
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 10:13am
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I just watched the match between Wang Hao against Schlager & Samsonov, Wang Hao skill is improved, higher accuracy on his shot, comfident level improved, mid/long distance rally also improved. ------------- Maze ST FH/BH : Palio Era 42.5 Max |
Posted By: P�r$son
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 10:17am
Absolutly ! Timo Boll is NOT quite as good as Ma Lin or Wang Liqin. Sure, he could beat Ma in World Cup last year, Sure, he could beat Wang in the World Cup last year. Face to Face, he always has good chances. But the big difference between Boll and Wang/Ma is that Boll is not able to beat any kind of player (kreanga, samsonov). The Chinese are just so perfect, they have no problems with "special" europeans as Samsonov (excellent blocking....) Boll might be good against the chinese, but he always has problems with any kind of europeans ! ------------- BUTTERFLY Korbel SK7 straight Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05 Best Setup ever ! |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 2:35pm
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Wang Liqin looked like he gave the game away to ma lin. He didn't look like he was complaining too much about his mistakes during his match against ma lin. i think he does not care who wins, just as long as one of the chinese players win the final. he played more serious against chuan than ma. i guess is their chinese way of dealing things. someone has to win the final right? i have to admit that ma lin's forehand became faster just as wang hao's rpb got better. if you watch wang liqin's game against chuan, you will notice that he has been improving his backhand and is trying to become more balance from both wings. ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:02pm
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Thats true, But I really can't see someone who has played Ma so much just suddenly giving this match away. I'm sure he would like a chinese to win but Wang is chinese, why wouldn't he want it haha. And also I thought pro's still had coaches...Wang didn't....I'm not sure if Ma did or not but I'm positive Wang didn't? ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:20pm
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When two players of the same country or team have to play against eachother there usually isn't a coach. Not in the match of wang liqin - Ma Lin, not in the match of Wang Hao - Ma Lin. |
Posted By: NaDeR
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:37pm
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its seems that you dont have the 1st stage . right ????? |
Posted By: crs2
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:41pm
| No one gave matches to anyone, not Liqin to Ma, not Boll to Kreanga, this is not pro boxing! Ma Lin won the cup 3 times already, seems perfectly normal that he won it again. |
Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 3:49pm
| the reason wang wasnt complaining about errors was because he was playing a country mate and he wishes to be courteous, two countrymates also tend not to "cho" too often either |
Posted By: darcycudmorepei
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 4:35pm
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Ahhh ok..>I guess it makes sence.. if I'm playing against someone from my province I don't use a coach either ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 4:39pm
what else can he say, opinari?? "i'm so pissed that coach liu ordered me to dump that game just so ma can get to no. 2 in the world and win a record 4th world cup!! and i really hope wang hao disobeys orders and beats the crap out that little bugger cuz he sure doesn't deserve it!!" dumping matches is illegal, so wang (or any other player) isn't gonna say anything which would tip the officials off to what he did. nothing but negative consequences would come to him if he did... 4-0... maybe he (or they) didn't want to extend ma for too long and risk an injury. for those of you who watched the final you might have noticed ma occasionally reaching for his back after being stretched out in a rally. he may have a back problem... or maybe wang was saying, "well, since i gotta lose anyway, why make it last any longer than what it has to??" yes, i know, it's just speculation on my part, but i don't think it's a total impossibility. at any rate, it doesn't matter if you lose 4-0 or 4-3, it's still a loss. another consideration would be that if wang liqin won that match and then samsonov pulled off a miracle and beat wang hao, then he might be so pumped up he might upset wang liqin in the final, which is exactly what he did in the world cup 5 years ago. wang liqin actually was actually undefeated in ittf "ranking" events for 1 whole damn year until that loss to samsonov! and i think the 3rd place match confirmed that possibility, cuz wang just barely beat samsonov, 4-3. samsonov basically lost the match due to some untimely errors in the 3rd game when he had set point, i believe. anyway, it was quite fortuitous for the chinese team that samsonov took out boll and then lost to the 2 wangs. wlq will probably stay at no. 1 for the rest of the year and ma will probably move up to no. 2. and wang hao will move closer to boll. the chinese top-4 will not be playing in anymore pro tour events until the finals in december. boll, on the other hand, will play 2 events before then. if he can win, he may be able to get himself back into the no. 2 spot. a friend of mine had an interesting quip about boll after the loss. he said that boll has been so obsessed with learning how to beat the chinese (especially wlq) that he's forgotten how to beat the europeans! last month, in the champions league, he lost to his doubles partner, christian suess!! and now he loses to 2 guys he generally beats, kreanga and samsonov. although samsonov beats him sometimes, he shouldn't have lost to kreanga. someone above said that wang hao was the best player at the tournament and i totally agree. he would have won had he not, well, you know what i'm gonna say... |
Posted By: surler
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 5:27pm
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It is funny to hear that someone is thinking that the chinese team cares about the ranking so that some player will purposely lose to another to 'promote' the latter's ranking. the ranking is not important to them at all. if the ranking is really important, they wouldn't miss so many ittf tour every year. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 5:33pm
| how has missing "so many tournaments" hurt their ranking?? |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/31/2006 at 5:34pm
| besides, if you don't care about the ranking (or the money, or the titles, for that matter), then why play at all?? |