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Topic: Awesome but pricey MyPingPongBuddy Ball Picker
Posted By: stiltt
Subject: Awesome but pricey MyPingPongBuddy Ball Picker
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 3:06pm
http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=mppb-ball-picker" rel="nofollow - https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=mppb-ball-picker

I had one and forgot it at a student's house, I never asked it back since they gave me a table free of charge when they upgraded theirs to a 2k one and I did not want to reach as a cheapo when the kid's training time with me came to an end and I remembered about the ball picker.

I kind of miss it but at $45 + shipping, I see the item overpriced. I would buy it at $30 including shipping and the owner would still clear a more than decent profit at that price so I do not understand the rationale behind the pricing scheme.

I am a very average guy, not too smart but not stupid either; not rich but not poor either; not super educated but not vastly ignorant either (OK I might be if we count everything there is to know...). If I think that way about the item, I expect a lot of people to think the exact same in the TT community. 

What's your take?


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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 3:15pm
when I needed something like this I bought butterfly net at dollarama


Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=mppb-ball-picker" rel="nofollow - https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=mppb-ball-picker

I had one and forgot it at a student's house, I never asked it back since they gave me a table free of charge when they upgraded theirs to a 2k one and I did not want to reach as a cheapo when the kid's training time with me came to an end and I remembered about the ball picker.

I kind of miss it but at $45 + shipping, I see the item overpriced. I would buy it at $30 including shipping and the owner would still clear a more than decent profit at that price so I do not understand the rationale behind the pricing scheme.

I am a very average guy, not too smart but not stupid either; not rich but not poor either; not super educated but not vastly ignorant either (OK I might be if we count everything there is to know...). If I think that way about the item, I expect a lot of people to think the exact same in the TT community. 

What's your take?

I think we can try making this at home for much less by using a badminton racket TongueTongueTongue. This is definitely ridiculously high pricing for something like this. 


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Posted By: racquetsforsale
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 3:19pm
Man, at that price, might as well buy the dry/wet shop vac at costco for $36. Especially useful for retrieving balls in hard to reach places.

Way over priced as are many other items in this sport.


Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 3:27pm
I have seen DIY versions of this at various clubs.

The grate part on the bottom is simply some fishing line spaced properly. Attach to a frame like a cardboard box and a handle like an old broomstick/golf club shaft/paint roller extension.

Easily made for under $10 in parts

A swiffer broom handle that has a pivoting head would allow the thing to move around easier.



Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by racquetsforsale racquetsforsale wrote:

Man, at that price, might as well buy the dry/wet shop vac at costco for $36. Especially useful for retrieving balls in hard to reach places.

Way over priced as are many other items in this sport.
 LOL wow YOU are my pp buddy, picking up any smoking sense around topics and making it more of a low hanging fruit! 
I have a home depot shop vac and used it with the extender to reach balls behind the dryer but I did not go further than a ball as the end of the extender is smaller than 40mm so it's one at a time and it's got to be quick because the motor goes bezerk with no air coming in Dead. A bit brutal a method, I expect the sound of balls making their way in to be funny, vraoum-slurp-slurp-bang-bang! with a wide enough extender piece


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I have seen DIY versions of this at various clubs.

The grate part on the bottom is simply some fishing line spaced properly. Attach to a frame like a cardboard box and a handle like an old broomstick/golf club shaft/paint roller extension.

Easily made for under $10 in parts

A swiffer broom handle that has a pivoting head would allow the thing to move around easier.

I had a home made pong pal with a long and hard cardboard tube with 2 thick and wide rubber band. It worked well. I imagine the same hack can be done with the MPPB. As anubhav1984 mentioned, a badminton racket and solid rubber bands would do the exact same, that's how Joe started his endeavor before mass producing after all.
My ping pong buddy idea is kind of superior, especially the fact that the head of the device is flat while we stand, so it's worth promoting it but the price thing is such a barrier.
Now the idea of a swiffer broom handle that has a pivoting head definitely has my attention, thank you so much for that. We are maybe onto something even better. En route towards automation!


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Posted By: bes
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 6:54pm
I think ~$50 for a clever device that lasts many years under regular use and saves massive amount of time when picking up balls is fair.  We have 5 or 6 at the club and they are MUCH appreciated.  Without them multiball training quickly becomes tiresome.  A few MPPB's can pick up a couple gross of balls in a couple minutes.  I've used all sorts of different nets and tubes, and none work anywhere near as well.  I've seen some clever creations that look like they should work well, but designing them, rounding up the parts, then putting them together takes time, and time is valuable to me.  I like that you can easily get ball out from under the table.  I like the fact than they will pick up several balls at a time and do it while the balls are in the middle of the floor or against a barrier - no need to chase them to a wall so you can use a net. I know nets can pick up balls in the middle of the floor too, but it takes touch and a bit of practice.  Nets are much slower - at least in the hands of beginners.  Also, back in the day our nets used to get bent and broken all the time (again, by students and beginners.  Our MPPB are much tougher.

This thread reminds me of a recent (few months ago) event at the club.  A very enthusiastic player bought a very nice (not cheap!) robot, then found that picking up stray balls could be a PITA.  I suggested he get an MPPB - to save time and aggravation.  He "looked into it" and immediately started complaining about the ~$50 price.  This individual doesn't bat an eye when buying an over $1,500 robot, an over $400 blade, and a pair of $80 sheets of rubber - plus an identical backup blade "just in case".  But the thought of spending ~$50 for something that will save him a lot of time, energy, and aggravation is just crazy!  

In case there is any doubt, I think MPPB's are great and I'd hate to go back to running group or any multiball lessons without them.

bes


Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 03/13/2019 at 8:10pm
Nothing wrong with a normal little fishing net type one. $5.


Posted By: patrickhrdlicka
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 1:01am
We have three ball pickers at the club. The least expensive one, is my favorite:  https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=ipong-tele-pickup-net " rel="nofollow - https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=ipong-tele-pickup-net  ;

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 1:48am
Originally posted by bes bes wrote:

I think ~$50 for a clever device that lasts many years under regular use and saves massive amount of time when picking up balls is fair.  We have 5 or 6 at the club and they are MUCH appreciated.  Without them multiball training quickly becomes tiresome.  A few MPPB's can pick up a couple gross of balls in a couple minutes.  I've used all sorts of different nets and tubes, and none work anywhere near as well.  I've seen some clever creations that look like they should work well, but designing them, rounding up the parts, then putting them together takes time, and time is valuable to me.  I like that you can easily get ball out from under the table.  I like the fact than they will pick up several balls at a time and do it while the balls are in the middle of the floor or against a barrier - no need to chase them to a wall so you can use a net. I know nets can pick up balls in the middle of the floor too, but it takes touch and a bit of practice.  Nets are much slower - at least in the hands of beginners.  Also, back in the day our nets used to get bent and broken all the time (again, by students and beginners.  Our MPPB are much tougher.

This thread reminds me of a recent (few months ago) event at the club.  A very enthusiastic player bought a very nice (not cheap!) robot, then found that picking up stray balls could be a PITA.  I suggested he get an MPPB - to save time and aggravation.  He "looked into it" and immediately started complaining about the ~$50 price.  This individual doesn't bat an eye when buying an over $1,500 robot, an over $400 blade, and a pair of $80 sheets of rubber - plus an identical backup blade "just in case".  But the thought of spending ~$50 for something that will save him a lot of time, energy, and aggravation is just crazy!  

In case there is any doubt, I think MPPB's are great and I'd hate to go back to running group or any multiball lessons without them.

bes

LEt's just say that if this device hadn't been invented, I would never have bothered to train as much as I did.  I don't understand the griping about the price either - we over pay for rubbers as well.  Something that actually keeps us from breaking our backs, we complain.  Well just as you can buy cheaper rubbers, you can buy cheaper alternatives.


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Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 11:31am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I have seen DIY versions of this at various clubs.

The grate part on the bottom is simply some fishing line spaced properly. Attach to a frame like a cardboard box and a handle like an old broomstick/golf club shaft/paint roller extension.

Easily made for under $10 in parts

A swiffer broom handle that has a pivoting head would allow the thing to move around easier.

I had a home made pong pal with a long and hard cardboard tube with 2 thick and wide rubber band. It worked well. I imagine the same hack can be done with the MPPB. As anubhav1984 mentioned, a badminton racket and solid rubber bands would do the exact same, that's how Joe started his endeavor before mass producing after all.
My ping pong buddy idea is kind of superior, especially the fact that the head of the device is flat while we stand, so it's worth promoting it but the price thing is such a barrier.
Now the idea of a swiffer broom handle that has a pivoting head definitely has my attention, thank you so much for that. We are maybe onto something even better. En route towards automation!

Here's what I use for a DIY ball picker upper.

Take a plastic clothes hanger.  I tape the hook to a stick about 3 feet in length.  I then take a  https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Sports-Mesh-Equipment-Royal/dp/B0000BY911/ref=sr_1_13_sspa?keywords=net+bag&qid=1552576636&s=home-garden&sr=1-13-spons&psc=1" rel="nofollow - mesh bag  and wrap it around the clothes hanger.  You can use safety pins or duct tape.  It's similar to other DIY ones out there but the flat part of the hanger makes it easier to scoop balls from the floor.


Posted By: Slowhand
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by bes bes wrote:

I think ~$50 for a clever device that lasts many years under regular use and saves massive amount of time when picking up balls is fair.  We have 5 or 6 at the club and they are MUCH appreciated.
Absolutely. Fair price for a well-designed, durable, highly useful device. If you enjoy tinkering around with do it yourself projects then have fun trying to make something that works as well as this thing. Not as easy as it looks or the competition would already have done it.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 2:36pm
It's a great product, if I calculate all the bending over and cramping under the tables that I save, it pays for itself in no time. Even at $100 it would still be a good deal if we think that way. So why don't I buy it at $50+? Because without being an actuary, I believe pricing things correctly is a science. If the goal is to create profit and it costs me $10 to produce and sell one including all costs, do I prefer to sell 10 at $50 and make a $400 profit or 100 at $30 and take $2000 home? Only a retired person who does not care about the money will choose the former and that blurr things.

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Posted By: sunny
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 3:18pm
go to http://www.aliexpress.com" rel="nofollow - www.aliexpress.com and search for table tennis ball picker and you will get lots of them at cheap price plus free shipping



Posted By: racquetsforsale
Date Posted: 03/14/2019 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

It's a great product, if I calculate all the bending over and cramping under the tables that I save, it pays for itself in no time. Even at $100 it would still be a good deal if we think that way. So why don't I buy it at $50+? Because without being an actuary, I believe pricing things correctly is a science. If the goal is to create profit and it costs me $10 to produce and sell one including all costs, do I prefer to sell 10 at $50 and make a $400 profit or 100 at $30 and take $2000 home? Only a retired person who does not care about the money will choose the former and that blurr things.

"How we gonna turn a profit? Volume!" LOL



Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 04/18/2019 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by racquetsforsale racquetsforsale wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

It's a great product, if I calculate all the bending over and cramping under the tables that I save, it pays for itself in no time. Even at $100 it would still be a good deal if we think that way. So why don't I buy it at $50+? Because without being an actuary, I believe pricing things correctly is a science. If the goal is to create profit and it costs me $10 to produce and sell one including all costs, do I prefer to sell 10 at $50 and make a $400 profit or 100 at $30 and take $2000 home? Only a retired person who does not care about the money will choose the former and that blurr things.

"How we gonna turn a profit? Volume!" LOL

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Posted By: flyrod
Date Posted: 04/21/2019 at 2:23pm
look at Banggood.com they have 1 for $15.

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Posted By: GaryBuck
Date Posted: 04/22/2019 at 11:14am
A very useful product. It saves time, and saves back ache. Well worth the price, to me.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 04/22/2019 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by GaryBuck GaryBuck wrote:

A very useful product. It saves time, and saves back ache. Well worth the price, to me.
it really is, I think I am just an aging cheapo; I hope my question about the MYPPB price increases its sales! the proof it's really good is that I would not buy anything else even at 5 times less...Once you tried it it's impossible to go back, it is just too good! well done MYPPB!

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Posted By: wilkinru
Date Posted: 04/22/2019 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by flyrod flyrod wrote:

look at Banggood.com they have 1 for $15.


Please link then.


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Posted By: hleett
Date Posted: 04/22/2019 at 8:03pm
Can't play ball without it, especially after hitting 150 balls and they are all over the floor!!! 


Posted By: MPPB
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 11:56am
It has been almost 10 years since I came up with the bent badminton ping pong ball picker idea which I later named MyPingPongBuddy. I want to let everybody know that I havent made my first million yet and probably will never make it in this lifetime. But I have made a lot of pong players happy and satisfied despite having to pay $45 which seems to some a very high price for a ball picker on Amazon, Paddle Palace, MegaSpin and a few other dealers out there. Just remember they have to make a profit too or they will not be including MyPingPongBuddy on their list. Meanwhile, here I am at home making another MPPB by hand. Thank you guys for your support.

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Posted By: danseemiller
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 12:23pm
 Our South Bend club has 4 of them and they are well worth it.

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Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 7:54pm
Frankly MPPB is a great device. I joke to my coach that it spares us players from back pain and it should be considered hospital equipment!!

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Posted By: GaryBuck
Date Posted: 05/12/2019 at 12:47pm
I think I understand why some people might think this is over priced.

I suspect that people tend to think that once you buy this thing, it should last for many years with no maintenance. But by its nature, it is too fragile for that: the strings and the net need to bend and be flexible, to pick up and hold the balls, the handle needs to bend easily, to get under the table or other furniture, etc. So I find it needs to be treated with a bit of care, and needs to be restrung now and again. The net can easily get torn when it catches on something like a protruding screw under the table or in a difficult corner, and mine is sewn up in a couple of places.

Its flimsy, flexibility is what makes it work so well, and is also what makes it in need of care, and occasional maintenance.But it is the best thing I have seen for picking up balls.



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