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Topic: Do you press your rubber agains the blade?
Posted By: hunkeelin
Subject: Do you press your rubber agains the blade?
Date Posted: 04/15/2019 at 4:57pm
So when gluing the rubber there are two things that can be done

after you put the initial glue on rubber and blade

1. You set it on the blade and lightly roll it. For for a 10 secs then apply medium strength on the roll. This technique will not result in rubber expanding. 

2. You set it on the blade and heavily roll it. Resulting in the rubber expanding.


End result. When you take the rubber off to reglue. If you use method #2 you will see the rubber is "not big enough" for the blade, You will have push it hard against the blade to purposely expand the rubber on the regluing process so the rubber will cover the blade entirely. 

What's the pros and cons? what's the thought? what's the right way to glue it? 


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Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 04/15/2019 at 5:05pm
I press the rubber to the blade and then put it underneath a big book. When I cut the rubber however I leave a rim of about 2 mm or more to allow for shrinkage.

Thus the right thing to do is to set it on the blade and lightly roll it (ie always do opposite of what I say and you can't be wrong).


Posted By: Lula
Date Posted: 04/15/2019 at 6:13pm
why Do you need to take it off? I only regler when i have new rubbers so this is not a problem for me. 


Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 04/15/2019 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by Lula Lula wrote:

why Do you need to take it off? I only regler when i have new rubbers so this is not a problem for me. 
I reglue my rubber every few months. How often do you change your rubber? 


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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/15/2019 at 11:24pm
Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

1. You set it on the blade and lightly roll it. For for a 10 secs then apply medium strength on the roll. This technique will not result in rubber expanding.

That's how I do it. As you say, method 2 can product tension in the rubber, and this tension may not be even over the surface, so it can affect the consistancy of the rubber over the bat surface (as well as the regluing issue you describe).


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Posted By: Lula
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 1:26am
i change the rubber when it looks and feel worn. Practice somewhat much so proably change after some months. I think i proably should change earlier But it cost so much money. But i Do not understand why you reglue your rubber after some months?


Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 2:08am
Originally posted by Lula Lula wrote:

i change the rubber when it looks and feel worn. Practice somewhat much so proably change after some months. I think i proably should change earlier But it cost so much money. But i Do not understand why you reglue your rubber after some months?

I live in Vietnam. None of the clubs here have air conditioning. During the super hot humid months, I have a problem with the rubber coming detached from the blade. Sometimes I need to reattach the rubbers as often as once a week sometimes. I've tried several different glues. Can you recommend a glue that can withstand this type of environment. I'm actually quite annoyed with this problem recently. 


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Posted By: YoAss
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 2:29am
Perhaps a non-waterbased glue would withstand extremely humid environments better.  The traditional rubber cement type glues have been banned, though; still, if my rubbers came off every week I'd take a wide look around.


Posted By: Simas
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 6:21am
Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

I live in Vietnam. None of the clubs here have air conditioning. During the super hot humid months, I have a problem with the rubber coming detached from the blade. Sometimes I need to reattach the rubbers as often as once a week sometimes. I've tried several different glues. Can you recommend a glue that can withstand this type of environment. I'm actually quite annoyed with this problem recently. 

Wow, for me it's even hard to imagine.. there are special glue sheets for gluing rubbers. Maybe they would work in such a situation better?


I personally glue my rubber only when I change it to a new one. So that's at minimum every 3 or 4 months... and I use more like a second option of rolling over the rubber harder... Smile


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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 6:37am
Originally posted by Lula Lula wrote:

why Do you need to take it off? I only regler when i have new rubbers so this is not a problem for me. 
See how a question like that can make the discussion go completely off topic? Wink


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Posted By: 1dennistt
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

1. You set it on the blade and lightly roll it. For for a 10 secs then apply medium strength on the roll. This technique will not result in rubber expanding. 

2. You set it on the blade and heavily roll it. Resulting in the rubber expanding.


End result. When you take the rubber off to reglue. If you use method #2 you will see the rubber is "not big enough" for the blade.

What's the pros and cons? what's the thought? what's the right way to glue it? 

I've done it both ways, and #2 was always a pain if I had to take it off and reglue (using Donic Bluefire M2 mostly).  So now I use method #1, unless the rubber if heavily domed from the factory.  If it is heavily domed, you have little choice except to use pressure and then put something heavy on the blade to make sure it doesn't detach and peel off.


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Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 04/16/2019 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Originally posted by Lula Lula wrote:

i change the rubber when it looks and feel worn. Practice somewhat much so proably change after some months. I think i proably should change earlier But it cost so much money. But i Do not understand why you reglue your rubber after some months?

I live in Vietnam. None of the clubs here have air conditioning. During the super hot humid months, I have a problem with the rubber coming detached from the blade. Sometimes I need to reattach the rubbers as often as once a week sometimes. I've tried several different glues. Can you recommend a glue that can withstand this type of environment. I'm actually quite annoyed with this problem recently. 

Goodness, I'd be drenched in sweat in 10 minutes. I can't believe there's no A/C. 



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