Hmm I think from some shadowing it's definitely weaker than the BH chiquita but it could be a very valuable sudden variation to the FH receive haha... I was thinking of hooking around the side almost exclusively like a hook loop to increase the amount of sidespin and make it really curl out. 

I know a guy that does this stroke. It was deadly to be honest, I didn't even realized what he did in the first few times. Basically, when I push short to his FH side, he hang his elbow high and then wrap around the ball very fast with his wrist and forearm while his bat pointing somewhat downward, it all happened very fast, I couldn't see very clearly. The ball was fast and it landed on the wide forehand, very hard to return because it's something you never saw or expected. And he was not even a good player, this stroke is his best weapon :D

It's not like what Calderano or Niwa does because it's much more explosive and aggressive.

Top players are adding new strokes (especially on-the-table strokes) to their arsenal and I won't be too surprised to see a pro player doing this someday. 

Ok haha I'm gonna learn it now! 

Think it's pretty much close to impossible to use the Swedish grip for receiving serves haha...long serves would be killer. I don't think it's necessary to drop the bat that much, my idea was more like hooking around the ball like a FH hook loop...from the top looking down the bat goes from 4-5oclock to 10oclock... 

Going for pure speed and placement is hard because it requires a very precise control of the racket angle. That's why even pros make quite a lot of mistakes doing the FH flick and they generally don't do it directly off the serve (the serves are usually too spinny to control). Even Ma Long doesn't outright flick serves that often... It's a different story for pips though as with pips the pure flick can be quite a stable shot.

Making it a sidespin chiquita will go a long way towards making it a lot more  consistent and useable.... Also you could use a push preparatory movement so opponents won't know what's coming until it's too late. From the same position you can do a sideswipe which curls towards the opponent's BH, a FH chiquita or hook flip which curls towards the opponent's FH, or simply push the ball short, long, etc... 

What are you guys talking about? i am swedish and have been playing almost my whole life, and been coaching almost the half of it. What is the swedish grip? haha :) 

I think it's not exactly the same like a banana flip which can do almost 270 deg bat rotation, realistically we can only achieve 180 deg on the FH. I dont think you need to drop the wrist much at all...just hook around the side of the ball upwards! It's more like a variation of the sidespin push except because you brush it upwards it's going to have topspin and it's gonna be faster...

We Do not call the serve grip anything really. Never heard anyone call it swedish either. 

But We call banana flip ”tjeckflipp” which translate czechflip. Proably because of korbel. 

But the few that I did had quite some quality in it...

Will continue trying it out!

Koki used it at around 18 sec in the video and a few other times (3:50 is another one). He didn't apply a lot of force though so it was just mostly spinny and soft (probably because the opponent already retreated from the table)...

Tbh I think it's possible to hit it harder than what Koki is using it for (a soft FH sidespin flip)...

With the 3 fingers (thumb, index, middle) pendulum serve grip, a shakehand player can do the equivalent. It's not necessarily a winning shot, just a rally starter like the bh chiquita: to limbo with the pushers!

Frankly I was picturing some sort of modified reverse pendulum serve for this shot. Elbow high, blade brushes the outside of the ball. I think it might work.

FdT