Top Chinese Men vs Women
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Topic: Top Chinese Men vs Women
Posted By: mickd
Subject: Top Chinese Men vs Women
Date Posted: 04/29/2019 at 8:49am
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Saw this on my youtube feed just then. Quite interesting. The quality sucks, though. |
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Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 04/29/2019 at 1:06pm
| Wow! Everyone looks serious. No messing around. LGL must have offered a prize or said "anyone not giving 100% will get demoted to the B team". |
Posted By: Tt Gold
Date Posted: 04/29/2019 at 4:28pm
| liu shiwen actually won the whole thing without loosing a match I believe. |
Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 04/29/2019 at 5:18pm
Nah, not this one I believe, I think the one she won was in the previous years, this year I watched a clip where she lost to FZD. ------------- How many eyes have seen their dreams |
Tt Gold wrote:Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 04/29/2019 at 8:47pm
| So this was a pre-Budapest training camp in Austria (with Liu Jia, Gardos, Habesohn...). What was the playing system - how many points did the men spot the women? |
Posted By: Tt Gold
Date Posted: 04/30/2019 at 2:21am
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Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 04/30/2019 at 3:41am
Adam must have been talking of previous years, The arrangement was China/Austria Men team vs China/Austria women team , it was first to 11 points and the girls were given 2-4 points odds ahead of play, the male team won 41-40]
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Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 8:10am
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Smart of Austrians to invite the Chinese to train. And all but a few countries could learn a great deal by inviting just the Chinese women. ------------- Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g) Left hand, 2020-1: Stiga Allround WRB (67g)/Fastarc G-1 1.8mm/V11 > Extra max 158g Fitness Friendship Fun |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 8:47am
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China-Austria Men's Team 41 : 40 China-Austria Women's Team 9 men and 9 women took part, 1 game only, 81 matches in total. The men spotted 1-3 points depending on strength difference. 1-point handicap: DN beat Gardos WMY beat Habesohn CM vs Gardos 2-point handicap: CM beat FZD WMY beat LGY FZD vs LSW ML vs DN ML vs LSW ML vs CM LGY vs DN 3-point handicap: ML beat Liu Jia XX vs Liu Jia ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 3:57pm
CAN WE JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO APPRECIATE THIS Serena Williams had no chance against a top 200 male in her prime! ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 4:48pm
Not surprising at all. Table tennis is not tennis. The table is only 5' wide. Zhang Yining beat highly ranked men in exhibitions. When Gao Jun was still playing ITTF events with a WR in the 30s, she played about 2700 level in many usatt tournaments against men. It would be surprising if the CNT women didn't do well. The euro men are not used to the quick off the bounce playing style of the women's game. |
Posted By: Slowhand
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 4:49pm
FTFY. Agree, it's amazing. Not many sports where skill so often trumps differences in gender, age, size, strength.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 5:06pm
| IMO, the shown subset of results is almost meaningless as each pair of players only played 1 game. However, had each match was a full best of 5 or 7 and all 81 match results were listed, then it would have been a different matter. |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 7:02pm
They would probably have won even without the handicap lol.... ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 7:49pm
a good clue to these results is when harimoto was beating top players at 14 years old. I can't imagine a 14 year old tennis player beating the top folks. or a 14 year old nba player. or a 14 year old top soccer player. maybe that's why many people don't consider table tennis a sport
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Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/06/2019 at 2:26am
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Jennifer Capriati was ranked in the top 10 in tennis at 14 years old. Martina Hingis won Wimbledon doubles at 15, singles at 16. Tracy Austin won the US Open at 16. |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 05/06/2019 at 4:55am
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I think the burden will be on men's side. People expect them to win, while women have nothing to lose, so they can play more freely. ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 05/06/2019 at 11:34am
13 year old guo yue was beating top players too .I dont think harimoto is gonna be more dangerous he s too exposed and more players know how to outplay him |
Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/06/2019 at 11:56am
the point is, physical strength is not so important in table tennis as in other sports. that's why tomokazu harimoto can beat top players. same reason why women can beat men. it's been mentioned that in tennis top women don't stand a chance against top men.
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Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 05/06/2019 at 3:34pm
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In the 90s the top men on the Chinese national team could give the women 7 points in a game to 21. Now the spot is usually 3-4 in a game to 11. If the Chinese women's team were allowed to compete in the men's division it would be interesting to see how they would do. They would have no chance against the Chinese men but I think they would beat most of the men's teams. |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 05/07/2019 at 2:26pm
all women, incidentally
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Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/07/2019 at 9:33pm
Boris Becker was on the German first team at 14, won matches against adults at 15/16, won Wimbledon at 17. Michael Chang won a match in the US Open main draw when he was 15, won a pro tourney at 16, won the French Open at 17. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 7:11am
Nadal at the French was the last real prodigy, but seriously, these things don't happen in tennis as much. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 8:03am
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I was also thinking that Chinese women don't have much incentive to play men when their most dangerous opponents are Ito Mima and Hirano Miu. It is the rank 100 guy who can learn most from such (close?) matches. ------------- Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g) Left hand, 2020-1: Stiga Allround WRB (67g)/Fastarc G-1 1.8mm/V11 > Extra max 158g Fitness Friendship Fun |