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Topic: Incredible talent / unbelievable shots!!
Posted By: Jackcerry
Subject: Incredible talent / unbelievable shots!!
Date Posted: 05/02/2019 at 6:42pm
He plays with normal rubbers, no pips or anti






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Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 05/02/2019 at 7:22pm
Adam Bobrow has found his match

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Posted By: Jackcerry
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 7:27am
will be an epic match lol


Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 8:14am
0:17 is great. "this guy is too good!!! what do you want me to do??"

as for his style, most long pips pushblockers play something similar to this.


Posted By: heavyspin
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 9:07am
Making a "basement game" work on a respectable level, impressive and creative. One thing that accentuates his non-standard strokes is that he maintains his upper torso in an upright position - a very non athletic posture.  

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Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 9:11am
Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:

Making a "basement game" work on a respectable level, impressive and creative. One thing that accentuates his non-standard strokes is that he maintains his upper torso in an upright position - a very non athletic posture.  

This guy wouldnt survive against a 2000 player


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 9:31am
he must use ALL+ blade with something like Mark V or Sriver


Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 10:24am
How could he read the ball trajectory, bounce and spin so well while looking down from that high? Most long pips pushblockers also stay pretty low.. He's not a push blocker, though. More like a hitter/chopper.


Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 11:19am
Dead You watched it. You can't unwatch it. 

I think I've probably undone about half of the coaching I've ever had from that video.


Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 11:24am
Surprised I've never seen anyone do that serve at the end, definitely one to try out.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 12:13pm
no comment


Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 12:39pm
There's a guy in top 50 in England who plays a bit like this but just at a much stronger level. I can post a video for comparison.


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 1:39pm
That's the next level of weird, but he has incredible hands.  A match between this guy and Rich Dewitt could be epic.

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 2:00pm
Looks too photoshoppish.

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Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 2:07pm
Willing to bet his rubbers are approaching anti level of grip. Dead sponge too, most likely. 

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Posted By: patelaaaa
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 2:26pm
Looks like he 'boosted' himself 


Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

There's a guy in top 50 in England who plays a bit like this but just at a much stronger level. I can post a video for comparison.

Yes please.Smile


Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

There's a guy in top 50 in England who plays a bit like this but just at a much stronger level. I can post a video for comparison.

Yes please.Smile

http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8" rel="nofollow - http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8

The guy in red. 


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

There's a guy in top 50 in England who plays a bit like this but just at a much stronger level. I can post a video for comparison.


Yes please.Smile


http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8" rel="nofollow - http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8

The guy in red. 



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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

 

http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8" rel="nofollow - http://https://youtu.be/eHgzCjzela8

The guy in red.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgzCjzela8&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgzCjzela8&feature=youtu.be



Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 8:42pm
his style reminds me of the famous olivier mader a bit



and doing forehand shots only with his forearm reminds of olivier mader's friend..... Werner Schlager LOLLOLLOL




Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 8:56pm
[QUOTE=pingpungpeng]his style reminds me of the famous olivier mader a bit

I don't see anything close to Oliver.  Oliver is much, much better and the style isn't even close.


Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 9:55pm
I would say a lot of the comments on this post are missing the point. 
  Why we are not able to celebrate his style or his 'lack' in style. I see him enjoying himself whilst making his opponents miserable.......similar to players using long pips; especially.

I shall contribute US$20.00 towards a fund to allow the player to have a game with either Mr Oliver or Mr heavyspin....( how apt ) and have it posted here. 

Any takers ?


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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by penholderxxx penholderxxx wrote:

I would say a lot of the comments on this post are missing the point. 
  Why we are not able to celebrate his style or his 'lack' in style. I see him enjoying himself whilst making his opponents miserable.......similar to players using long pips; especially.

I shall contribute US$20.00 towards a fund to allow the player to have a game with either Mr Oliver or Mr heavyspin....( how apt ) and have it posted here. 

Any takers ?

maybe that's because he is using long pips as well Wink


Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/03/2019 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by penholderxxx penholderxxx wrote:

I would say a lot of the comments on this post are missing the point. 
  Why we are not able to celebrate his style or his 'lack' in style. I see him enjoying himself whilst making his opponents miserable.......similar to players using long pips; especially.

I shall contribute US$20.00 towards a fund to allow the player to have a game with either Mr Oliver or Mr heavyspin....( how apt ) and have it posted here. 
Any takers ?

I like playing players like Adam and Oliver.  Their unique style make them a challenge to play.  They do not make me miserable.


Posted By: andras
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 7:11am
Adam b.... And this guy use inverted rubber......


Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 9:34am
The original video is amazing. I like his style. People are comparing him to Adam Bobrow, but I think this guy is more fun to watch even if Adam Bobrow may be a better player. What level do you think that guy in the video is? I guess hes at least 1700 or 1800, probably a good bit higher. It's hard to tell from just a few clips. It reminds me a guy named Mark in Clearwater, FL, but this guy in the video attacks better. The guy in Florida uses long pimple on forehand, but they do however have similar technique and nonathletic stance. The guy in Florida usually hovers between like 1650 and 1850, but I think the guy in the video has better serves and attacks better. 

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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 11:53am
Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

The original video is amazing. I like his style. People are comparing him to Adam Bobrow, but I think this guy is more fun to watch even if Adam Bobrow may be a better player. What level do you think that guy in the video is? I guess hes at least 1700 or 1800, probably a good bit higher. It's hard to tell from just a few clips. It reminds me a guy named Mark in Clearwater, FL, but this guy in the video attacks better. The guy in Florida uses long pimple on forehand, but they do however have similar technique and nonathletic stance. The guy in Florida usually hovers between like 1650 and 1850, but I think the guy in the video has better serves and attacks better. 

I don't think the guy is a good as you think.  Remember this is a highlight video.  His opponents look okay, but he barely beat the first guy and lost to the second guy.  His unique style is fun to watch though.


Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Willing to bet his rubbers are approaching anti level of grip. Dead sponge too, most likely. 
My initial thoughts.....


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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by andras andras wrote:

Adam b.... And this guy use inverted rubber......

no way this guy is using inverted.
even if it's 40.000 year old inverted.

he uses long pips or antispin (in the bh).


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Willing to bet his rubbers are approaching anti level of grip. Dead sponge too, most likely. 
My initial thoughts.....

Agreex 100
Looks like basement  yard player not somebody who keeps his rubbers in good shape


Posted By: andras
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 4:00pm
Thys guy Is from Italy .....same post in Italy's forum....2 inverter Rubber Clapfor this Is awensome .....If use antispin...lp.....ecc...not Is incrediblelWink


Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/04/2019 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

The original video is amazing. I like his style. People are comparing him to Adam Bobrow, but I think this guy is more fun to watch even if Adam Bobrow may be a better player. What level do you think that guy in the video is? I guess hes at least 1700 or 1800, probably a good bit higher. It's hard to tell from just a few clips. It reminds me a guy named Mark in Clearwater, FL, but this guy in the video attacks better. The guy in Florida uses long pimple on forehand, but they do however have similar technique and nonathletic stance. The guy in Florida usually hovers between like 1650 and 1850, but I think the guy in the video has better serves and attacks better. 

I don't think the guy is a good as you think.  Remember this is a highlight video.  His opponents look okay, but he barely beat the first guy and lost to the second guy.  His unique style is fun to watch though.

So what do you estimate his level? Most of the opponents in the video are probably at least 1500. 


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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 12:49am

I don't think the guy is a good as you think.  Remember this is a highlight video.  His opponents look okay, but he barely beat the first guy and lost to the second guy.  His unique style is fun to watch though.
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So what do you estimate his level? Most of the opponents in the video are probably at least 1500. 
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It's so hard to tell watching a highlight video, but I'd put the second guy at about 1700, maybe less.  I didn't see anything in the way of good serves.  


Posted By: Simas
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 10:57am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

 

The guy in red. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgzCjzela8&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgzCjzela8&feature=youtu.be


that's obvious :D and indeed they do look similar. In their stance and lack of full arm movement...

but the Italian guy is buy far more weird. And by far more entertaining to watch then Bobrow! :)

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

[QUOTE=pgpg]Willing to bet his rubbers are approaching anti level of grip. Dead sponge too, most likely. 
My initial thoughts.....
Same here!

Anyways, it would be nice to get more videos of this guy!


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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 05/05/2019 at 11:56am
His footwork is impressive !!! Must teach it in every TT school...

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Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 2:37pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs

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Quote We have a fancy boy, he plays old fashion style as if he was born in the year 1918.
We suspect him watching archive videos a lot.
His name Davide Girardi, 1989 yob



Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 3:00pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

[QUOTE=pingpungpeng]his style reminds me of the famous olivier mader a bit

I don't see anything close to Oliver.  Oliver is much, much better and the style isn't even close.
I could see myself struggling against that guy.. It's hard to estimate his actual level.. His understanding and manipulation of spin is amazing while his game is completely unathletic.
I'm impressed with his no arm forehand attack.. It almost looks like a backhand stroke but is very fast.


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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 4:30pm
If I play team league, I would love to have this guy on my team.  Not only he can win games, but help his whole team win.  His opponent will sure have the bad night after playing him LOL.  His acceleration and control seem like he can play normal, but choose not to, most of the unorthodox player borrow spin and power from opponent, this guy doesn't.


Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

If I play team league, I would love to have this guy on my team.  Not only he can win games, but help his whole team win.  His opponent will sure have the bad night after playing him LOL.  His acceleration and control seem like he can play normal, but choose not to, most of the unorthodox player borrow spin and power from opponent, this guy doesn't.

Remember, you watched a highlight video.  I suspect that he missed more of those weird shots than he made.  Also the second guy that beat him didn't look real good.




Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs

I was recently emailed from my Italian friends



No wonder people don't take TT seriously.  In the beginning, they play TT like going to the office:  shirt, sweater plus long pants. LOL


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Posted By: pingpungpeng
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 8:31pm
if he played in the chinese super league the matches would never start because the opponent would think he is not ready.....
like fang bo, remember? when he would just stay standing for a couple seconds more and this would upset his opponents.


Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM08gjMFozs

I was recently emailed from my Italian friends



No wonder people don't take TT seriously.  In the beginning, they play TT like going to the office:  shirt, sweater plus long pants. LOL

Was that Forrest Gump? 


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Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

[QUOTE=pingpungpeng]his style reminds me of the famous olivier mader a bit

I don't see anything close to Oliver.  Oliver is much, much better and the style isn't even close.
I could see myself struggling against that guy.. It's hard to estimate his actual level.. His understanding and manipulation of spin is amazing while his game is completely unathletic.
I'm impressed with his no arm forehand attack.. It almost looks like a backhand stroke but is very fast.

I could see this guy giving a lot of people problems the first few times they played him. It seems like one of those styles that surprises people, but the more you play him you could figure out how to beat him.


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Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 9:32pm
' I could see this guy giving a lot of people problems the first few times they played him. It seems like one of those styles that surprises people, but the more you play him you could figure out how to beat him. ' - ericd937


I would think so. I think a good strategy to is attack him and not to allow him to play his game. Put him on the defense.
But of course, that is if you are able to do so.LOL


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Posted By: balldance
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 2:01am
I don't think it's that hard to play this guy. Of course we will be surprised with his unorthodox shots but he's likely to miss a lot as well. This is just a highlight video and he lost the second opponent who doesn't look too good.

The guy is amazing though. I guess he's one of those players that don't really care about winning or losing, they just chase the joy of playing table tennis and shocking people with their crazy shots. If you care about the result, you just can't play this style.




Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 10:15am
AMERICA GOT TALENTS, a lot.

Every nation got pingpang talents, all nations are producing talented individuals, without exception. Mostly, those talented guys play bizarre and yet effective style.   



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