Indecision in strokes
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Topic: Indecision in strokes
Posted By: maurice101
Subject: Indecision in strokes
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 12:01am
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I had a lesson with an ex pro coach. I talked about how I can do good technique at training but it all falls apart in matches. He talked about how club players have a lot of indecision in their play while pros have very little. In training you have less indecision as you are usually doing a set routine. He stated that my lack of time to do the correct technique in matches is due to this factor. So he said as soon as I do a long or short push go in mental attack mode. Assume the ball is coming back as a long push (most likely at the low level which I play at) and set the mind up to attack and be ready to get the bat low and in the correct body position for a topspin attack on the backhand or good rotation on the forehand. So mentally you are setting your body to do the correct thing as soon as you push. Of course if the return is too fast or short you can still push. Since you are mentally ready to attack earlier with no indecision, your anticipation skills should go up and your attack win percentages should go up too. We did a training drill in that as soon as I pushed long I had to attack. So I was thinking that a lot of training is about doing routines that are match like that help reduce indecision in match play. Any comments on this topic and on how people reduce their indecision.
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Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 12:10am
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This is precisely the issue I have--everything falls apart in games which apparently is due to indecision. Now that I think of it, everything works out much better when I'm on the attack. Thanks for your post! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 7:50am
While I can't control for all the variables, my experience is that if you don't have the ability to use ball quality (spin, placement, speed) to limit the options of your opponent , then these things sound like revelations. When you have a certain quality of ball, you can vary things to reduce the quality of what your opponent can do to the ball. The more your training addresses real problems that cost you points in your matches, the faster you will improve (could still take time but it will be faster). General technical improvement is good, but has a much longer term focus. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
maurice101 wrote:Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 12:20pm
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Generally If
things are falling apart in match play scenario’s then I would suggest working
on irregular drills where you have less control and must adapt,recover and you
will be able to relax and get used to the feeling. Sometimes pressure can cause
a stifling feeling which will stop people in their tracks. Getting over that is
a normal progression of training and working on it. A good topspin
drill I’ve found is usually.. serve, the partner pushes long to either your
forehand or backhand and then you topspin half pace to their backhand while
they switch you around 1 backhand 2 forehands and so whatever they want… so you
have to change and move. They aren’t trying to beat you…. just get you a little
off balance, so you have to recover. A bit like a slow match play point. Things
to remember are try and play the shot correctly, recover for the next ball. Once you
get a bit stronger at it try and go a little faster but aim for 15 balls on the
table first. It used to be called whole table half table years ago when I was
training but probably has a fancy name now like pear twist or something. If the
issue is from serve and 3rd or 5th ball then again make
sure the topspin return in on and you are ready then play the point out at half
pace. Moving, recovering and relaxing. It’s a matter of feeling and making sure
you rotate, move and recover. Then slowly over the weeks get a little faster. I’m sure if
it that helps? Also if you
are just starting out on training or playing at a higher level go at a pace
where you make the balls more than not. I've seen a
lot of people who I am sparing partners for try and play way toooo fast. The body
has to learn before it can make things happen quickly. Repetition and well
spent table time is the key. It may take a few months to get it to a nice tempo
where you are going steady. Cheers GZ |
Posted By: maurice101
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 5:55pm
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Thanks next level for the put down in your comment. Why do you do this? Its a public forum for beginners to experts. My point in the post was that according to my coach, indecision plays a larger role in anticipation skills than most players realize. Of course I did know that being uncertain about a shot selection is bad but it goes deeper than this and that is the reason why I posted.
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/08/2019 at 11:23pm
My apologies for my tone but we have discussed these issues a lot in mutual circles. https://youtu.be/m_5nWKyRzKM" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/m_5nWKyRzKM ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 05/09/2019 at 1:12am
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That means you've not drilled it to the point it becomes reflex, provided you have a solid foundation. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |