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Topic: FH rubber for Firewall plus
Posted By: ericto
Subject: FH rubber for Firewall plus
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 8:24am
I just got the Dr Neubauer Firewall plus to try out lp.  I really like the blade.  Problem is, it seems hard to loop.  

I tried mxp max on fh, did not loop as I would liked.  Not knowing anything about balsa blades I then tried mxp 50 that was worse.  

Any suggestions for fh rubber that I can loop with?  Or can I use a different DR N. Blade that plays like firewall plus but loop better.



Dipping my toes into the dark side.


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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800



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Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 9:56am
Tried H3 neo unboosted - nope 



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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 05/18/2019 at 9:15pm
I just tried Xiom o7t, can spin more but every time I hit it harder it flew away.  Club member told it is the blade it is bouncy;  maybe that's what it is.  

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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 05/19/2019 at 3:04pm
U r right I have to loosen grip instead of tighten.  I talked to table tennis coach who tried out the blade.  He said I have to loosen grip and also modify my forehand loop technique.  Instead of lowering arm loop loop more from top half of motion.  It worked. I can now loop and smash with mxp now, can't wait to try it out.  

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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: RoyPips
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 12:58am
I have Firewall and it's very picky with FH rubbers. For me decent choice with old balls were Skyline 3 (close to Hurricane), which "masks" the balsa effect. I know one player with Rakza 7 soft. Overall, I think you should think of different blade - I think that Firewall leads to too many easy mistakes... Smile


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 05/20/2019 at 12:49pm
I want to try a blade with fast fh and slow bh but maintain long pip heavy disruptiveness like the firewall plus;  any suggestions?  Anyone tried the Other Dr N blades.

To simplify looking for 2 faced blade
1. Fast fh and able to loop
2.  Blade size as big as firewall plus
3. slow bh - disruptive with long pips as firewall plus
4.  Light or lighter blade 50-80 grams
5. Can be balsa, composite or non balsa

Is there such a beast?

Thanks


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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: RoyPips
Date Posted: 05/24/2019 at 1:10am
You might want to ask same question in the OOAK forum: http://ooakforum.com/index.php , all the pips experts are there... Thumbs Up

- Overall, 2 faced blades are not that popular with pips players.
- Many defensive blades have big heads.
- Slow BH side is not necessarily good for the pips.
- Forget composite blades.

I play with Joola Chen Weixing non-blasa blade, which has big head and it is decently fast for a defensive blade. It feels very different from Firewall, which is biggest difference. The blade weights 85 g and cost under 50 $. The are lots of similar blades.

Cheapest alternative is to borrow someone else's blade for testing and see what you like.


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 05/24/2019 at 5:43pm
Thanks RoyPips 

I been reading on ooak for past few hours, tons of LP info.




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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 05/24/2019 at 5:54pm
stay off of ooak ....haha

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OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip


Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 06/04/2019 at 3:13pm
for that balsa blade try vega asia df. it will match well.

my coach got a great 2faced blade from the forum. blades by Charlie. he makes custom blades at a fair price. nice quality good finish


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 5:02pm
I just wanted to add:  

I continued my search for a blade that I can loop with using long pips.

After many months and also browsing ooak forum.  I am now using:

Dr. Neubauer Matador,  FH joola Rhyzer 50 pro 2.0(boosted) , BH DTecs OX  - You can loop with this baby.
Although push blocking is not as good

Also Dr. Neubauer Matador Texa,  FH Tenergy 64,  BH DTecs OX  - 

The defensive blades I tried, none of them worked out for me.  
CO3, Senso, SPinlord ultra carbon def, gambler 3 ply, 5 ply, immune ox, alligator combi, jackpot, grand master ....

As for the Firewall Plus, the best FH rubbers I had on it was MXP and Tenergy 64fx

PS there are all IMHO

Thanks


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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 5:27pm
Try the drneubauer grand master it's great with h3 for looping


Posted By: ericto
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 5:54pm
Thanks for the suggestion

I do have a grand master, it is my slowest blade, the tortoise i tried to swat with it got away :) I bought the grand master from Mr.  Tsai, . I have one for sale 

Thanks 


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Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

Trying to get to 1800


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by ericto ericto wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion

I do have a grand master, it is my slowest blade, the tortoise i tried to swat with it got away :) I bought the grand master from Mr.  Tsai, . I have one for sale 

Thanks 

Sorry i got things mixed up I meant the magical touch with the kido hinoki outerplies. I know a very good player who is using that.


Posted By: nachalnik
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 9:53pm
I use Yasaka Shining Dragon. It’s a very light rubber with the Chinese sticky feel to it. Unbelievably spinny and very controllable. Another one is Andro Rasant. It has a different feel but works well. As for the blade, I stopped using balsa and switched to kiri with carbon. I love Andro Defcon but it’s discontinued now. Andro Fibercomp is a solid choice.


Posted By: achoomai
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 10:22pm
Chinese rubbers are working well with Firewall Blade as long as the size of the sheet is large enough.
Maybe you can try kokutaku 007 pro selected from Amazon.


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