how to push extremely spinny
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Topic: how to push extremely spinny
Posted By: blahness
Subject: how to push extremely spinny
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 7:17am
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Open topic to ask ppl what are their tips/tricks to pushing ridiculously spinny underspin that most ppl will dump into the net. ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 8:49am
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Are you talking about off service? If so.. I try to take the ball early on the forehand and close to the bounce with a shorter stroke and a slight dig/jab kind of movement with a very open racket angle with soft hands which develops quite a bit of chop and stays low to the net. Also taking the ball early takes time from my opponent and give me a bit of time myself to judge the return. Not sure you can out push someone totally in a match but you can defo make them give you a weaker return off a good push which give the chance to make a good attack or put your opponent off balance yourself. There are also the longer faster type pushes which use a slightly different contact. That help any? |
Posted By: Tt Gold
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 9:32am
| If you want to push with the backhand, then make good use of the wrist. On the forehand you can come into the table with your arm position similar to as if you push short. If you then pull your forearm backwards and use the elbow as the point of rotation you can do a heavy push with either backspin or sidebackspin. The motion is just like the forehand push that defenders do on a long ball. |
Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 10:14am
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Do you mean the heavy sort of backspin that comes back from LP's after you have looped to them ? ------------- The Older I get, The better I was. |
Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 10:30am
Can you clarify: are you talking about pushing against heavy backspin that opponent sent your way? Or do you want to know how to push heavy yourself? ------------- USATT: ~1810 Butterfly Defense Alpha ST - H3 Neo - Cloud&Fog OX |
blahness wrote:Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 10:38am
| short fast contact right after the bounce with the wrist. |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 10:53am
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have your racket almost parallel with the table and just lay it under. Doesn't take much push. The backspin will take itself back over if it's that heavy. Push stroke is very short and parallel to the table...no down motion. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 5:35pm
Sorry if it was jnclear, I meant pushing heavy against all sorts of spins  ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 08/21/2019 at 7:37pm
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My experience is that it's mainly about using the elbow as a pivot well, with the wrist action being in line with the forearm action, if the wrist action is not controlled then the spin reduces significantly (I use that to push with light spin). I've noticed that I push much better if I bring my head closer to the ball. Another thing is having the bat pointing upwards with the backswing. I also found out a useful technique of pushing sidebackspin by going a bit more sideways to the ball ie if the stroke is not perpendicular to the incoming flight path of the ball but at a slight angle, this seems to increase the dwell time, control and spin compared to if you did it straight. It's sort of like a sidechopblock that you can even use against incoming topspin loops with good enough feeling. ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: Simas
Date Posted: 08/22/2019 at 4:40am
yes, the contact point with the ball should be not at the back but at the bottom of the ball as much as possible.. ------------- Stiga Offensive Classic Legend DHS Hurricane Neo3 Donic Bluefire JP01 Turbo |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/22/2019 at 8:07am
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This needs touch and feel skills. It does not need too much arm movement but the timing, contact and feel of the ball. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 08/24/2019 at 9:15am
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at my level I find I do better when I just lay the ball back over dead than when I try to add more spin. Maybe it's because for me it's the variation ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 08/24/2019 at 1:00pm
Like this, I find If I push too slow the spin will send the ball long sometimes ------------- Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox |