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Topic: Low Odour-Contact Cement (solvent free)
Posted By: Pete73
Subject: Low Odour-Contact Cement (solvent free)
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 2:39am
I found this Low Odour-Contact Cement (LePage brand) at Home Depot. It is a water-based contact adhesive and it is safe to use, it is solvent free. You can use it indoors without worry to smell solvents while working with it. It’s very good to glue rubber on the blade. it provides a strong bond (without having latex) and it’s not damaging the sponge or the blade when removing (tested on Tenergy 05, EL-P, …).


Directions:

Apply a first thin coat (with the brush in the cap) on the blade and the sponge and let dry for 5 minutes (until the glue turns from milky white to transparent gloss). Add another coat and put your rubber on the blade when it’s becoming transparent (3 to 4 minutes). Time will depend how thick is the coat. Apply pressure on rubber. To remove the glue on the sponge, put hot water and/or use your fingers, and for the blade use your fingers and/or scraper blade lames. This glue is similar to other table tennis glues but at a much cheaper price considering the quantity of 237ml for $can11.47. It works very well.

Home Depot:

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lepage-low-odour-contact-cement-273ml/1000708661" rel="nofollow - https://www.homedepot.ca/product/lepage-low-odour-contact-cement-273ml/1000708661

Comparing with the Elmer’s Rubber Cement, this Low Odour–Contact Cement has a stronger bond and it is solvent free.

Walmart:

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/craftbond-rubber-cement/6000188853329" rel="nofollow - https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/craftbond-rubber-cement/6000188853329





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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 5:06am
Interesting!

Does it dry hard, or like a flexible layer? My only concern would be if it dries and forms a hard layer, which could affect the feel of the bat.


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Posted By: WingTT
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 12:28pm
Unfortunately it does not seem to be available outside Canada, in the USA. It's made with Polychloroprene or better known as neoprene, a synthetic rubber, so it should be flexible.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 12:32pm
this is very good info, thanks for sharing.

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Posted By: Pete73
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 5:25pm
To haggisv:
It’s a flexible layer when it dries. The glue will curl up on itself when applying pressure with the tip of your fingers on the blade or the sponge. The glue that has been removed has a soft/medium rubber texture.

To WingTT:
You are right, this brand name LePage is available only at Home Depot in Canada but it is available in USA and Worldwide under the brand name of Zelikovitz (like you mentioned it’s made with neoprene). It’s a water based contact cement like the LePage brand. It is sold mostly as a glue for leather.
You can have it at Walmart USA for $11.69USD (7.95 + 3.74 delivery) for 4 oz (118ml). It’s going to be shipped by the Zelikovitz Lethears company to your home. At this price, it’s still a much cheaper price for 4 oz comparing to table tennis brand glue.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/1882-Water-Based-Contact-Cement-ECO-Friendly-4-oz-118ml/519136339" rel="nofollow - https://www.walmart.com/ip/1882-Water-Based-Contact-Cement-ECO-Friendly-4-oz-118ml/519136339

Available worldwide directly from the Zelikovitz Lethears company at $7.95USD. Delivery charge will be calculated to your home at the shopping cart section (select the currency).

https://www.zelistore.com/products/1882-water-based-contact-cement" rel="nofollow - https://www.zelistore.com/products/1882-water-based-contact-cement




Here is a video describing how to use this water based contact cement.



Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 7:27pm
This looks like an interesting alternative.

However, in the US, Paddle Palace brand 4 oz tt glue is $14.95 and includes sponges, so this is only a little more expensive. (Free shipping on orders over $60, easily reached when buying a sheet of rubber)

Tearmender is cheaper, about $11 for 6 oz from amazon.


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/14/2019 at 8:56pm
lots of neoprene cements are sold in the US.  I wonder if they are basically the same thing?

With that said, good TT glues are cheap compared to rubber and are formulated to work well for the purpose intended.


Posted By: Pete73
Date Posted: 11/16/2019 at 12:07pm
To Baal:
“I wonder if they are basically the same thing?”
Yes they are the same thing.

Water-based contact cement-Lepage,   water-based contact cement-Zelikovitz,   water-based EZ PRO Glue-Paddle Palace   and more are produced by Henkel company (headquartered in Düsseldorf, Germany). It’s a multinational company and these glues are produced in USA.

https://www.henkel.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.henkel.com/

And no matter who is producing these glues, it’s doing the job perfectly to join a rubber to a blade without any damage and without any solvent. It is a simple base of water and neoprene (Polychloroprene Synthetic Rubber).




Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/16/2019 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Pete73 Pete73 wrote:

To Baal:
“I wonder if they are basically the same thing?”
Yes they are the same thing.

Water-based contact cement-Lepage,   water-based contact cement-Zelikovitz,   water-based EZ PRO Glue-Paddle Palace   and more are produced by Henkel company (headquartered in Düsseldorf, Germany). It’s a multinational company and these glues are produced in USA.

https://www.henkel.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.henkel.com/

And no matter who is producing these glues, it’s doing the job perfectly to join a rubber to a blade without any damage and without any solvent. It is a simple base of water and neoprene (Polychloroprene Synthetic Rubber).



Can you play tournament with a raquet glued with elmers?. I Mean  a tournament with players around 2200 amateur level


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/16/2019 at 4:01pm
Does it allow removal of the rubber without damaging the blade?


Posted By: Pete73
Date Posted: 11/18/2019 at 2:44am
To Baal:
Does it allow removal of the rubber without damaging the blade?
Yes, made my own tests and it’s not damaging, the bonding strength is not too strong.

Another water-based contact cement solvent free: Renia - Aquilim 315 from Rocky Mountain Leather Supply company in USA. It’s the same glue as the other ones (Polychloroprene (Neoprene) Synthetic Rubber) at low prices and free shipping within US.
2 Oz (60ml) - $5.99 USD
4 Oz (120ml) - $9.99 USD
8 Oz (240ml) - $14.99 USD

https://www.rmleathersupply.com/products/renia-aquilim-315-water-based-glue?variant=8112928620664" rel="nofollow - https://www.rmleathersupply.com/products/renia-aquilim-315-water-based-glue?variant=8112928620664

http://www.renia.com/tech_GB_E/450-GB_E.tech.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.renia.com/tech_GB_E/450-GB_E.tech.pdf




Posted By: WingTT
Date Posted: 11/18/2019 at 1:15pm
I found the Aquilim too but at springfieldleather. The prices are slighly lower but there are probably shipping charges. I'm also interested to see if the Renia silicone glue flat brush/spatula they sell there will work well enough so that we won't need to use disposable sponges anymore.

That low odor Weldwood Nonflammable stuff is made in China and comes in a quart at minimum. Might be the lowest price option if it actually works and is consistent.

I've used Tearmender in the past but I gotten bad batches.



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