Rakza Z & Rakza Z Extra Hard
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Topic: Rakza Z & Rakza Z Extra Hard
Posted By: Ray
Subject: Rakza Z & Rakza Z Extra Hard
Date Posted: 12/18/2019 at 1:56am
Yasaka Rakza Z (47-52°) and Rakza Z Extra Hard (52-57°) rubbers are coming out in 2020! Both rubbers are made in Germany.  ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
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Posted By: Skynet
Date Posted: 12/18/2019 at 2:48am
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Do you intend to test them? Also do you know if there are several versions of each one (as in 47, 50 and 52° for the Z)? Just asking because 5° seems like a rather large variance in sponge hardness for a single rubber...or has Yasaka not yet finally decided on the final hardness degrees? |
Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 12/18/2019 at 10:53am
| There's no way they will state a range of hardness for a single rubber. |
Posted By: Hozuki
Date Posted: 12/18/2019 at 1:22pm
| I think we will soon see more really hard rubbers from ESN, they have recently produced some sponges that still retain good elasticity despite the hardness |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 12/18/2019 at 7:06pm
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I have always said this before that rubbers are going beyond the 50 degree hardness level for the modern game. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 12/22/2019 at 10:58am
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And 52 grams and above! ------------- Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 12/22/2019 at 3:09pm
I wonder if they will make harder sponge short pips
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yogi_bear wrote:Posted By: 1dennistt
Date Posted: 12/23/2019 at 1:02am
I think it is standard practice for Yasaka rubber,  Rakza X - 45-50 degrees Rakza 9 - 40-45 degrees Rakza 7 - 45-50 degrees Mark V - 40-45 degrees You can look at this website: https://www.yasakajp.com/goods/rub/" rel="nofollow - https://www.yasakajp.com/goods/rub/ ------------- Donic Waldner World Champion 1989 ZLC (Inner), Donic BlueStorm Pro (Red) Max, ????? (Black) 1.8 mm) |
Posted By: bongbanvietnam1
Date Posted: 01/31/2020 at 9:03pm
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Compare Yasaka Rakza https://dungbongban.com/so-sanh-cac-mat-vot-yasaka-rakza-7-rakza-9-rakza-x-n7999.html" rel="nofollow - https://dungbongban.com/so-sanh-cac-mat-vot-yasaka-rakza-7-rakza-9-rakza-x-n7999.html Yasaka Rakza Z 47-52 degrees Speed: 11 Spin: 14+ Control: 9 Yasaka Rakza Z Extra Hard 52-57 degrees Speed: 11 Spin: 14+ Control: 9 ------------- https://dungbongban.com/mat-vot-bong-ban-t1.html" rel="nofollow - mat vot bong ban tốt nhất |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 02/07/2020 at 7:17pm
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I don't quite understand what 47-52 and 52-57 degrees means. Is it an approximate value? ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: Xiuxiusue2018
Date Posted: 02/07/2020 at 9:54pm
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it is not just a range. it depends the thickness. the max has the highest. ------------- Viscaria FHT05 BHT80fx |
Posted By: jk92
Date Posted: 03/03/2020 at 8:01am
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According to this, it has a sticky topsheet! https://americantabletennis.com/products/yasaka-rakza-z" rel="nofollow - https://americantabletennis.com/products/yasaka-rakza-z Unboxing in Japanese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGs9kE9dmK8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGs9kE9dmK8 ------------- Timo Boll CAF Penhold Donic Bluegrip R1 Andro Hexer Grip SFX |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 03/03/2020 at 9:48am
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That unboxing video shows the protection sheet. Definitely sticky! ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/30/2020 at 12:59pm
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any reviews? Comparison with other Yasaka Chinese-like rubbers (Shining / Rising dragon)? Comparison with other ESN tacky rubbers (Tibhar Hybrid K1, etc)? Comparison with Dignics 09C? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 05/01/2020 at 2:10am
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my rakza z and z hard rubers are still stuck in the courier due to covid... ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/01/2020 at 5:31am
| Also interested in any comparisons vs boosted Hurricane 3 or 3 Neo. |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 05/01/2020 at 9:49pm
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Its closer to Dignics 09C than other Chinese hybrids. Has just a little more tack than D09C. The hard version has an orange sponge and feels harder than D09C. Both versions are also heavier than D09C . I got my sheets from Japan about a month ago ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 05/02/2020 at 1:02pm
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Did you get the max. or 2mm. ? ------------- Shifter |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 05/02/2020 at 2:26pm
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max ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: ericd937
Date Posted: 05/04/2020 at 1:41am
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How does Rakza Z (normal) compare with something like Hurricane 3 provincial 39 degrees? ------------- Current Setup: TBS FH T80/BH D80 Official USATT Rating 1815 Current estimated level: 1800-1900. |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 05/04/2020 at 10:29am
I can't really answer that cause I'm not an H3 player. I have tried H3 a few times but it doesn't suit my game since I've always played with Japanese type rubbers. What I do notice is the topsheet of RZ is not as sticky and the sponge is more elastic. I think Chinese rubber players would prefer the Extra Hard version. The Extra Hard feels much harder and has a very fine pore sponge. ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 05/04/2020 at 2:31pm
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 05/04/2020 at 6:30pm
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The only tacky topsheet rubbers with japanese/euro sponges I've tried is Rakza Z, Dignics 09C , Joola Golden Tango PS , Donic Bluegrip and Spinart(Not very tacky). Rakza Z fits in between Dignics 09C and GTPS. I don't boost but I would bet the RZ Extra Hard boosted would be awesome. ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 05/04/2020 at 8:30pm
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Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 07/07/2020 at 12:03am
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Rakza Z Extra Hard Max on Lin Gaoyuan ALC Very spinny but felt MUTED when playing with the FH compared to HURRICANE 3 (Played with H3 since 2009) -opening loop felt effortless Need to play with it more. Counter looping, definitely can’t compete with Hurricane 3. Top end speed h3 > rakza Z extra hard Brb ------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/07/2020 at 6:51am
Hurricane 3 is still more tacky than Rakza Z regular, akso h3 is still a tad harder. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: ALPHACROW
Date Posted: 07/08/2020 at 3:43pm
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Has anyone played ever played with rakza z and yasaka rising dragon, to give us a comparison between those two? Also has anyone ever played rakza z with booster? I ve been playing with t05 for a really long time and I just switched to rakza z unboosted to my forehand to give it a chance, and it's not that bad. It s just a little slower than tenergy even if you use full power from your body and more unforgiving.
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