This can be used on both FH and BH (you could do a sideunderspin chiquita in this manner)

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Lmao yeah it's kinda obvious if you were paying attention  but I guess in a match situation at 10-9 this might just win the game hahaha coz the opponent might be like "wtf is this nonsense" 

Nothing feels better than successfully bamboozling your opponent 

I wonder if we could ever develop a useful reverse pendulum stroke on those fh balls. we then have more room to mask what spin we put on the ball with the same "topspin" follow through but that's another topic.

Fun stroke and nice idea. Bit of a gimick but if it comes off 100% could be a point winning or even matching winning stroke. If it doesn't come off it's the other way of course and the players looks a bit silly trying a high risk stroke. but no guts no glory.  I remember Waldner having a similar stroke stroke in his kitbag.

Nice find

I think the normal flick can be modified a bit to look like that with the topspin followthrough without having to resort to the reverse pendulum idea. I've actually had the idea to do a reverse pendulum "push" that in actual fact has sidetopspin on it but that's another topic, I haven't really tried it out.

That reverse sidetop "push" is pretty common. Normally use it against a chopper short to bring them in to a shorter ball. that way if they are off to ball kicks and tends to stand up ready for a stronger ball or smash. It's also good when someone drops a short serve back to add a change up. you have to have pretty good touch to make it work or it becomes maybe a bit to obvious.

Nah, it's not difficult. It's one of those strokes that anyone can learn given 3x 10min sessions on a robot or with a coach. Very useful in pushing rallies.

Definitely not difficult to learn, agree with you. It doesn't seem to be used as much as some years ago from what I've seen. Being on the circuit watching alot of matches do you still see alot of it or other variations btw?. I was referring to getting it short and tight off a return which does need good touch off the bat or it sticks up. 

If you think about what the stroke is trying to achieve, then you realise that every player above beginner uses it in some form. It's just one of the basic rallying tactic.

The player-aim is to try to draw his opponent to push a ball that contains either light backspin or some topspin. The hope is that the opponent having pushed this ball lays himself open for an attacking topspin (usually) stroke.

This happens in every pro match. Pick any match and watch carefully. There is a short heavy push, a heavy push in return seemingly, next ball goes long, then bang. They are now into a topspin rally. Or a variation.

Yes a good thing to practice

I already knew the concept but never really tried it out, as I felt it was too advanced of a stroke. But I figured why not haha.

So I started doing it against an opponent that usually gets 7-8 points off me in games (when I'm going all out looping). Surprisingly it was devastatingly effective, he was pushing or looping balls randomly into the net or out on most of the receives I did. I even "gave" him extra odds by not looping at all, and he still could only get 7-8 points lol... I might consider making this my primary receive along with the sideswipe (which I can vary between sidetopspin and sideunder easily too). Step aside BH chiquita and short pushing LOL... 

I asked my friend what did he think, and he thinks this is the most disgusting receive he's ever seen with the exception of long pips hahaha.

So basically there's two motions to this, you first do like a pushing movement which is then followed by a flicking movement. 

So you either do:

1) push movement is true and flick movement is false, this will generate a very heavy sideunderspin ball

2) push movement is fake and flick movement is true, this will generate a sidetopspin ball - amount of spin depends on how good your flick is.

Just alternate between 1) and 2) and enjoy the look of disgust on your opponent's face haha as he tries to figure out wtf is happening...

Another variation would be to receive back to the deep backhand. This type of push where you let the pendulum serve [typically] and use that type of push, if you hit it early sends the ball firmly back with a lot of sidespin straight back to the deep backhand, rather than short forehand.

Obviously you could flick it to the deep backhand too.

Then you'll have your opponent wondering if its a push or a flick, and whether its coming to their short forehand or BH. That'd made a weaker opponents brain explode!

Actually the "pushflick" (my terminology as I think I partially invented this stroke :P) can almost be used against serves of all kinds of spin, and both on the FH and BH, it's just a matter of adjusting blade angle, and it can pretty much go anywhere you want it to, and it's more of an aggressive stroke. Today when I was practising with my friend I was using this along with the Waldner sideswipe (aka the fade which has the opposite sidespin). 

I haven't really figured out how to make this work with the short push, but I guess with the short push you just kinda short push and don't bother with the fake flick movement lol... I think I vastly prefer this to a short push tho because being an aggressive stroke it firmly places initiative in my hands. Against side underspin serves this is a real killer, of course you can use it against sidetopspin serves too but imo the chiquita is more of a killer against sidetopspin serves. 

So basically with this I can kinda attack all serves, be it long or short, underspin or topspin or no spin. 

The shot has been around for ages unfortunately but take credit for it

BTW no offence ment seriously.

See Waldners time and before in many forms. You might not be from that era as a younger player mind. It's interesting to go back and take a look how things have envolved.

Great trick shot or surprise shot but for a standard return bread and butter shot it doens't seem to have arrived in the game as a standard tool kit. The blackhand flick is the go to for many players for stability thats why the higher players use it I would think.

At the Lower level could catch on maybe. Interesting to have and see 100%  Cheers

Show me a video of Waldner doing it and I'll shut up  I do not believe it is in his toolkit, and I've watched a LOT of Waldner lol. Alternatively show me a video of another older player doing it. No video, no proof....

Yeah sure - and I partially invented the Internet 

I improved on his idea. Firstly he didn't go around the side of the ball (which increases dwell time and there's more room for deception). Secondly he didn't have the variation with the actual flick which starts with a push movement (ie open blade). I can produce both heavy sidetopspin and sideunderspin with my version which is why I had so much success deceiving my opponent. 

It's almost like role reversal, usually the long pips person plays weird spin to trick inverted users and move them around, with this it seems like I can move them around a lot easier than they can move me around. And it also seems like I'm tricking them with spin variations even more than they are tricking me lol. 

And with inverted, you still maintain the threat of a powerloop, so once you got them out of position and they give you an opportunity ball, you'll be able to finish those balls off easily. 

I'm quickly becoming a huge fan of this stroke, it's perfect as a receive and also seems to be a long pips killer. 

Think it would require some serious touch which I don't have tho....

Managed to use this movement to do the short push. Unfortunately the sidetopspin version is bad as a short push because it definitely is much easier to attack. The heavy sideunderspin version is a lot more deadly and I think I'm going to use it as a sudden variant to the pushflick and strawberry.

Now, the difficult part is to combine all of them together (along with my serves and attacking strokes) into a coherent gameplan

Edit: he also does the sidetopspin version of the short push (using the same pushflick movement) in no.70. Now I'm really impressed....

Think this is a completely different concept, it's more directional deception rather than spin deception, but also quite useful (I use it quite often too).

The one in no.69 (torsional flick??!!) at 5:43 is super underrated too....it's basically a windshield wiper action, and with the same movement you can produce both topspin and underspin flicks lol. Just tried it out yesterday and the underspin variant was highly effective against sidetopspin serves, people see the flick movement and assume it's topspin, but in reality it is underspin haha...