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Topic: rate guess
Posted By: lgxb
Subject: rate guess
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 5:03pm
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What is the rating for the long pip guy?
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Posted By: wilkinru
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 5:41pm
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Semi pro? Guy is a monster. ------------- TB ZLF inverted inverted |
Posted By: sunila
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 5:47pm
First of all ratings are NOT based on just head-to-results or how graceful you look (this is not gymnastics or figure-skating) or who is using long-pips etc Even otherwise it is very difficult to reasonably estimate ratings since ratings are based on how well you perform against many many many individual styles. You may be way off 300 to 500 points even with a ballpark number. I know many coaches who lower their level in training just slightly bit above the trainees to make the trainee look good in their mind ( so they will keep taking lessons..............it is like a psychiatrist never cures you for years so (s)he can keep collecting easy insurance money. ) When I first started I knew a 2100 plus club owner who will always beat me 11-9 (or deuce) in the 5th, while many 1500 players beat me in 3 games. Many 1600+ players would avoid playing me at any cost. He did this so I won't give up & quit & stop generating revenue for him This is basically like what I may have to do at US Nationals, lower my level just be a touch above my opponent, so I won't hurt their feelings. |
lgxb wrote:Posted By: lgxb
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 6:35pm
As far as I know, he's not. He may have coach but definitely just amateur.
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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 6:48pm
| 2300+ |
Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 7:20pm
| Wow, that's definitely one of the more unique styles I've seen recently. For all I know this guy could be as high as top 300 in the world or just a decent provincial player in China. |
Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 7:20pm
Just a slightly different way to see it, but some people I know lower their level to just above mine when we play. They do it because it's the best for me to learn. They make the match challenging but not impossible.
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Posted By: nachalnik
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 8:23pm
| Based on the spin variation, foot work and quality of the loops, he’s easily 2300-2400. |
Posted By: lgxb
Date Posted: 08/04/2020 at 9:22pm
Both you two are very considerate people.
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 2:46am
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Dude's serves are WAY over 2300 hidden and blatant illegal toss, never removes hand/arm... ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 5:58am
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Hi, There was an Asian player in the 1970's that played in a similar way at the international level. I don't remember his name. As I recall, he was not mainland Chinese. Due to some limitations in his approach to play, this player is susceptible to certain strategies by players with powerful games that are able to exploit these limitations. He is very skillful within his feature set. Thanks. ------------- Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber. |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 7:04am
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I've seen videos of 2500+'s players posted, and this guy seems like he'll give those guys a huge run for their money.... For reference, he seems to have way better control and court coverage than pushblocker who's reached 2300 without even attacking... He attacks as well as he defends (look at all those very heavy powerloops he defended with perfect height). But of course this is a highlight and he might not be that consistent but tbh that's unlikely... FFS he loops with long pips as hard as some do using inverted lol....
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 7:40am
He loops with inverted black. He twiddle occasionally. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 7:50am
A whole lot higher than any of us.
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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 8:42am
You're right, I thought it was unreal that he could powerloop like that with pips... This makes a lot more sense. Still the speed of twiddling is so fast and smooth that I had to watch it in slowmo to actually see it happening, this guy has some insane skills... ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 9:11am
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Hi, An advancement to the solution to this question would be found in conjuring up a match between him and Sunila of Los Angeles, a contributor to this forum, who is projected to win the next World's Veterans 40+ event, which, in the past, has been won by professional players. Thanks. ------------- Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber. |
Posted By: sunila
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 2:37pm
I heard there was some Polish immigrant who won US Nationals when he was 47 I know Waldner won Swedish when he was well over 40 There may be others. https://www.google.com/search?q=table+tennis+cartoon++farside&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiLt-PC2YTrAhWKRawKHVu1CBMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=table+tennis+cartoon++farside&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1CadVjaiQFggJABaABwAHgAgAFaiAGzAZIBATKYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=QfsqX8uSEYqLsQXb6qKYAQ&bih=852&biw=1527#imgrc=cfbT-0C7WFm77M" rel="nofollow - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22table+tennis+cartoon++farside%22&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiLt-PC2YTrAhWKRawKHVu1CBMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%22table+tennis+cartoon++farside%22&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1CadVjaiQFggJABaABwAHgAgAFaiAGzAZIBATKYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=QfsqX8uSEYqLsQXb6qKYAQ&bih=852&biw=1527#imgrc=cfbT-0C7WFm77M Please define a "professional" player in table-tennis > because every immigrant to US or Canada claims he or she was National (or at least State) Champion in their old country and every born American claims he or she was the champion of their sub-division or neighborhood bar. I never said I am "projected" to win 40+ I said I "guarantee" to win BOTH 40+ as well as (all age) US National Championships Sunila "Joe Namath" "ShowTime Pat Riley" JayaWardhaneVikramasinghe |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 5:52pm
======================== To win those Over-40 events in both tournaments on women's side, the woman player needs to have a USATT rating of 2400+.
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 5:58pm
He is 2400+ for sure (and while that may be way too low, people should realize that 2400+ is nothing to sniff at and is semi-pro or professional in just about every country on earth and national champion in many countries with no real TT culture). ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 6:02pm
Scary good.
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Posted By: heavyspin
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 7:51pm
On the men's 40+ side is not only Jimmy Butler but Mingwei Ju (age 45, rated 2665) ------------- An EJ to a table tennis player is an equipment junkie. An ej to a mathematician is a standard basis vector. |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 10:28pm
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He wins every point so he must be good ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 08/05/2020 at 10:43pm
The crazy RPB penholder guy won a couple points against him in the video haha... ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: lgxb
Date Posted: 08/06/2020 at 1:15pm
That crazy RPB penholder is acutally pro -- he's former CNT team 2 player. But this long pip guy is just amateur AFAIK.
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Posted By: lgxb
Date Posted: 08/06/2020 at 1:16pm
That other RPB penholder is acutally pro -- he's former CNT team 2 player. But this long pip guy is just amateur AFAIK.
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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 08/06/2020 at 3:19pm
If you can hang with CNT B, I reckon you can also hang with WR 300.
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Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 08/06/2020 at 7:32pm
| I think it's safe to say he plays like a pro, even if he doesn't play for a living. He is going head to head with a CNT B team player after all. Amazing LP play. |
Posted By: lgxb
Date Posted: 08/06/2020 at 7:44pm
lol, I can't argue with that
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Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 08/09/2020 at 10:46pm
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Im not sure of which one is the long pimple player as the penholder does the blocking and hitting and the other guy had real problems if the shake hander was the long pips player he only won a few points, so he was not hanging out in the pen holders high lighted winners ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 08/12/2020 at 3:24pm
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I would put him around 2350 +/- 50 pts. He's very fast on his feet and he plays very well with the long pips. His FH drive is also very good. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 08/12/2020 at 6:14pm
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guy is 2500 minimum |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 08/14/2020 at 8:55am
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Ok...I will revise my ratings estimate to 2500+. I've watched again and I'm more impressed. We have 3-4 2400 players at my club, and our Chinese coach believes this player would beat them pretty handily. His control with the long pips is exceptional. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 08/14/2020 at 11:28am
| What is the estimated rating of that "Penhold Player" ? |