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Topic: Tibhar Evolution replacement for Rasant
Posted By: icontek
Subject: Tibhar Evolution replacement for Rasant
Date Posted: 10/11/2020 at 5:55pm
Disclaimer:
I hated Rasanter

I loved the thick top sheet original, plain Rasant. 

I loved the high throw and the monster spin and medium
Sponge of Rasant. 

I loved how strong Rasant makes service spin.  

Is there a thicker top sheet Evolution that feels and plays similar?

Thanks!


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/11/2020 at 7:07pm
how many degrees? 

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ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach


Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/11/2020 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

how many degrees? 

Rasant
2012
45
Rasant Turbo
2013
47.5
Rasant Powersponge
2013
40
Rasant Powergrip
2014
50
Rasant Grip
2014
45
Rasant Beat
2015
37.5

45 I guess. 


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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 10/11/2020 at 9:24pm
Icontek:   Try both Evolution MX-S and EL-P.  I found these came very close to playing characteristics of the Rasant series rubbers you mentioned. Except the MX-S doesn't last as long





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FH: Tenergy 05Hard 2.1
BH: Tenergy 80 2.1

Andro Treiber Z - fl
FH: Tibhar MX-P Hard 2.1
BH: Tibhar Aurus 2.1


Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Icontek:   Try both Evolution MX-S and EL-P.  I found these came very close to playing characteristics of the Rasant series rubbers you mentioned. Except the MX-S doesn't last as long


Thank you. My gut instinct was that EL-P would be similar. I was wondering about MX-S though. The original Rasant has a thick topsheet and amazing durability, so the comments about MX-S are a bit of a turnoff :(




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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Icontek:   Try both Evolution MX-S and EL-P.  I found these came very close to playing characteristics of the Rasant series rubbers you mentioned. Except the MX-S doesn't last as long


Thank you. My gut instinct was that EL-P would be similar. I was wondering about MX-S though. The original Rasant has a thick topsheet and amazing durability, so the comments about MX-S are a bit of a turnoff :(



Forgot to mention I am a fan of the original Rasant series too - especially the Grip and Powergrip.
Not thrilled about Rasanter series.

Give the MX-S a try, you just might like even though it doesn't last as long. It's performance that counts. Then you might get hooked. This and the EL-P are in your wheelhouse Smile




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Butterfly TB ALC fl
FH: Tenergy 05Hard 2.1
BH: Tenergy 80 2.1

Andro Treiber Z - fl
FH: Tibhar MX-P Hard 2.1
BH: Tibhar Aurus 2.1


Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/13/2020 at 4:54am
Stick to Andro.
Hexer powergrip and powergrip sfx are the same as rasant...


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Vega pro 2.0mm
Vega intro 1.8mm


Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/13/2020 at 9:41pm
I will go the EL-P route. Decided the MX sponge seemed a bit much, so ordered a sheet of EL-S as well. 

I didn't know about Hexer powergrip - that looks harder than Rasant - Hexer powergrip SFX looks softer. 

Perhaps Andro Hexer Grip (matches the 45 sponge) would be ideal? 

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/14/2020 at 8:29am
I agree with ELS, mxs feels harder. 

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ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach


Posted By: Ingo_Ger
Date Posted: 10/14/2020 at 9:02am
Maybe Hexer Grip is the best solution. Hardness is 45° and some people said that the Hexer Powergrip/Grip series are more or less the old Rasant.

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