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Topic: 2020 Men's World Cup, Nov. 13-15 China
Posted By: kindof99
Subject: 2020 Men's World Cup, Nov. 13-15 China
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 4:32pm
Cannot wait to watch this event.

Will there be any black horse coming out very strong?

ITTF link:
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 5:18pm
Kanak is there. Hopefully he'll let it go for good. He won't play for a club there but for his country and himself so maybe he can take a few liberties apart from the technique evolution roadmap the coaches impose him. I am not sure how those things work...

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Posted By: Odie
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 5:48pm
I'd like to see Pitchford or Calderano take it.


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 8:58pm
It will be quite interesting to see how well Lin Yun-ju and Harimoto will fare... They should have grown quite a bit since the last World Cup.

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Posted By: chroot
Date Posted: 10/12/2020 at 9:52pm
Would be great if Calderano can take it. He's a fun player to watch.


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 11/05/2020 at 12:21pm
Time to reactivate this post. Starting next week

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Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 11/07/2020 at 1:44am
I predict ML #1, FZD #2. 


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/08/2020 at 7:14am
I would be very surprised if there was anyone (including Ma Long) who can stop Fan Zhendong in this tournament...

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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 11/11/2020 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I would be very surprised if there was anyone (including Ma Long) who can stop Fan Zhendong in this tournament...

Hard to know. FZD has not reached the level that he can beat everyone easily like the 2015-2017 ML.


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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/11/2020 at 6:25pm
Fatty is going to take it, Darkhorse is Hugo, longshot by a loooooong ways is Kanak (how did he qualify again? **nvrmd- i rememberEmbarrassed)

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Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 11/11/2020 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I would be very surprised if there was anyone (including Ma Long) who can stop Fan Zhendong in this tournament...

Not for the faint of heart nor for those that don't thrive in the treacherous to bet against Ma Long.

Thanks.


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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 6:01am
Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I would be very surprised if there was anyone (including Ma Long) who can stop Fan Zhendong in this tournament...

Not for the faint of heart nor for those that don't thrive in the treacherous to bet against Ma Long.

Thanks.

Haha well I think Fan Zhendong pretty much figured Ma Long out by now, he hasn't lost to Ma Long for quite a while already.


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 8:18am
Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

Fatty is going to take it, Darkhorse is Hugo, longshot by a loooooong ways is Kanak (how did he qualify again? **nvrmd- i rememberEmbarrassed)
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Kanak is in Group 2, with Pitchford Liam and Chuang Chih-Yuan.
Unless Kanak comes in the last (loses both matches), he will advance to the main draw.

Both Pitchford Liam and Chuang Chih-Yuan are good players.


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:29am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

Fatty is going to take it, Darkhorse is Hugo, longshot by a loooooong ways is Kanak (how did he qualify again? **nvrmd- i rememberEmbarrassed)
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Kanak is in Group 2, with Pitchford Liam and Chuang Chih-Yuan.
Unless Kanak comes in the last (loses both matches), he will advance to the main draw.

Both Pitchford Liam and Chuang Chih-Yuan are good players.

Tough draw for Kanak Jha


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:30am
China time is 13 hours ahead of US EST.

Matches start 10:00PM tonight US EST.


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Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:33am
I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 10:42am
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Cannot wait to watch this event.

Will there be any black horse coming out very strong?

ITTF link:
https://www.ittf.com/tournament/5185/2020/mens-world-cup/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/tournament/5185/2020/mens-world-cup/


I never knew chinese and koreans were so friendly to forget social distance, they shake hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUeJnvBM4Fg


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 11:28am
Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.

My humble opinion: Kanak has 0 chances at all....


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 12:00pm

match times 10pm EST

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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.

My humble opinion: Kanak has 0 chances at all....

there's always "Hope" when given a "chance" but he has had some good learning in Germany...as long as he's "positive' anything can happen; that said, i too called him as a "loooong shot".

in the end what most in here are concerned about is we have matches to be "armchair critics" over :)


let the matches begin and the critics fly LOL

i believe Jorg will again be in his corner as with Feth, Jorg too has valuable advice and tactics for Kanak to use.


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Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.

My humble opinion: Kanak has 0 chances at all....

there's always "Hope" when given a "chance" but he has had some good learning in Germany...as long as he's "positive' anything can happen; that said, i too called him as a "loooong shot".

in the end what most in here are concerned about is we have matches to be "armchair critics" over :)


let the matches begin and the critics fly LOL

i believe Jorg will again be in his corner as with Feth, Jorg too has valuable advice and tactics for Kanak to use.

It'll be a great learning experience at the least.  The changes in tactics and techniques in Kanak's game have improved a lot and you can see him trying out new things from tournament to tournament.  Great opportunity for him!!!


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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 8:22pm
No one for Harimoto to take the top place?






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Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.

My humble opinion: Kanak has 0 chances at all....

I would not be surprised to see him take down one of them and I am quite sure he will put up a very good fight and make one or both of Pitch and CCY earn it.




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Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

No one for Harimoto to take the top place?





nope. but i predict that if he runs into FZD or ML it is going to end in 5 games or less


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Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:


match times 10pm EST

https://results.ittf.com/ittf-web-results/html/TTE5185/results.html#/results%20" rel="nofollow - https://results.ittf.com/ittf-web-results/html/TTE5185/results.html#/results

It is now 9:30 pm Eastern (USA).  I do not see a link for the streaming yet.

Thanks


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:36pm
https://tv.ittf.com/livestream/weihai-2020-table-1/2221277%20" rel="nofollow - https://tv.ittf.com/livestream/weihai-2020-table-1/2221277

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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/12/2020 at 9:43pm
just realized it's Friday 13th...fun fact...let's see how it plays out  for -  *looking at the players representing today* LOL


The ancient Chinese regarded the number 13 as lucky. The ancient Egyptians also thought 13 brought good luckFriday the 13th is considered an unlucky day in Western superstition.


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Posted By: idk
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 1:59am
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Lightspin Lightspin wrote:

I hope Kanak's coach has good strategies prepared against his opponents.  He is playing well enough to qualify but those guys are tough.

My humble opinion: Kanak has 0 chances at all....

Kanak loses a close one in the 7th. Had a really good chance. I thought pitchford would be the one he had a better chance with... will see what happens with Chuang


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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 2:01am
Doesn't deserve a spot on the team.


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 2:05am
Even though he didn't win, it is a step in the right direction.  Hopefully he can beat CCY and advance to the next round. 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 3:10am
jackwong23:


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 4:37am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

jackwong23:

Lmaooooo at the bait


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 5:11am
Kanak todaytough losses for ....

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 5:13am
Does not deserve a spot on the team.


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 5:14am
Although he didn't win, Kanak played really well.  Give him 5 more years and see what happens. 

Kanak did really well when he got in an over the table battle.  He also won lots of points going inside out with the forehand from the backhand corner.  I hope someone is doing the data analysis for him so he can know exactly what works and what the percentages are. 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 5:51am
jackwong23:


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 8:23am
Again, again, again, in playing against the best, it is demonstrated just how good Kanak is.

Thanks.


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Women 16 - 22%


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 8:48am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

jackwong23:

most players are out of practice because of wuhan virus. 


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 8:55am
Wong Chun Ting, with this good shape can defeat Harimoto I think. 

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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 9:01am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

jackwong23:

most players are out of practice because of wuhan virus. 


https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/23074/



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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 9:09am
Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Again, again, again, in playing against the best, it is demonstrated just how good Kanak is.

Thanks.

Still think he is behind the top European prospects?  


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BH: C1
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Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 9:50am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Wong Chun Ting, with this good shape can defeat Harimoto I think. 

Yeh  wong can reach the final


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 9:58am
I was going to post about the strong group 1 results for WCT but there were enough comments already


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:00am
isn't HK a part of China?  I thought only 2 players per country so how did WCT get a spot?


Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:02am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Again, again, again, in playing against the best, it is demonstrated just how good Kanak is.

Thanks.

Still think he is behind the top European prospects?  

Still bitter and hostile and confused, huh?


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Women 16 - 22%


Posted By: astaroyd
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:15am
ittf needs to upload short-form videos of every match to youtube 5 minutes after the match ends.
otherwise the world cup is unwatchable.
by the time they upload the videos to youtube the excitement of that match has died already.
watching full length matches on ittv is just impossible.... sometimes the matches are 1 hour long.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:59am
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

isn't HK a part of China?  I thought only 2 players per country so how did WCT get a spot?

Isn't Puerto Rico a territory of the US? Why was Diaz there competing with Lily and Jennifer?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?17671-North-and-South-Korea-to-combine-teams-in-Halmstad!&p=230544&viewfull=1#post230544" rel="nofollow - Aren't England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales all parts of United Kingdom?

https://www.basiclaw.gov.hk/en/basiclawtext/chapter_6.html
Quote Article 143
The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall, on its own, formulate policies on sports. Non-governmental sports organizations may continue to exist and develop in accordance with law.

Article 149
Non-governmental organizations in fields such as education, science, technology, culture, art, sports, the professions, medicine and health, labour, social welfare and social work as well as religious organizations in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region may maintain and develop relations with their counterparts in foreign countries and regions and with relevant international organizations. They may, as required, use the name "Hong Kong, China" in the relevant activities.


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: passifid
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 1:36pm
England Scotland Wales and Ireland are part of the UK but they are separate coutnries. Nothing like the us. Or hk Its more like a tiny EU as they are sovereign territories.


Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 1:42pm
Originally posted by astaroyd astaroyd wrote:

ittf needs to upload short-form videos of every match to youtube 5 minutes after the match ends.
otherwise the world cup is unwatchable.
by the time they upload the videos to youtube the excitement of that match has died already.
watching full length matches on ittv is just impossible.... sometimes the matches are 1 hour long.

sorry just came back on but they do that on their YouTube Channel... but not quite sure how quickly they're uploaded...as they don't control YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialITTFChannel/videos" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialITTFChannel/videos

lol nvrmnd misread your post ...sorry carry onEmbarrassed

but you can always scroll thru their recorded videos...no?

the time frame you're asking is a long stretch...do you do videos? maybe you have some suggestions to help them? i don't think itTV is a full production house from what i've seen.


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Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 2:40pm
Franziska seems to have found some better form at the right time. 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by passifid passifid wrote:

England Scotland Wales and Ireland are part of the UK but they are separate coutnries. Nothing like the us. Or hk Its more like a tiny EU as they are sovereign territories.


Northern Ireland is variously described as country, province, or region, the last of which is what the R stands for in Hong Kong SAR. This will come in handy once we get to Puerto Rico.

However, countries or not does not matter here. The ITTF had 9 founding members in 1926, 2 of which were England and Wales. Scotland joined in 1936 but Northern Ireland is currently not a member association. Don't know if ever was.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020ITTFHandbook_v1.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020ITTFHandbook_v1.pdf
Quote National Association.    A national or regional entity which is a member of or is recognised by ITTF as the entity governing ITTF's sport in that nation or region.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Puerto_Rico" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Puerto_Rico
Quote The political status of Puerto Rico is that of an unincorporated territory of the United States. As such, the island of Puerto Rico is neither a sovereign nation nor a U.S. state.

According to the Insular Cases, Puerto Rico is "a territory appurtenant and belonging to the United States, but not a part of the United States within the revenue clauses of the Constitution".


Yet, Puerto Rico is a member association. Go figure.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: passifid
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 3:51pm
Ireland is more complicated than that it's kind of like if china actually owned noth Korea. Ireland usually in sports is ROI aka southern


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Again, again, again, in playing against the best, it is demonstrated just how good Kanak is.

Thanks.

Still think he is behind the top European prospects?  

Still bitter and hostile and confused, huh?

Not really - I must have missed your admission of error. LOL


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Mazunov
FH: TBD (MX-S, C1)
BH: C1
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 6:17pm
Travelling by air may cost you too much, take you too dear, will endanger your life.


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:49pm
Jorgic playing Ma Long tough - kinda like Tokic.

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Mazunov
FH: TBD (MX-S, C1)
BH: C1
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Travelling by air may cost you too much, take you too dear, will endanger your life.

Dont post if you re not sober. Still sad because ito was trashed?


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 10:51pm
wow ma long Jorgic 2-2, the pressure is on the champion while the young tiger believes he can do it!

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 11:02pm
what an incredible 5th game, well done ma long. I am rooting for the kid.

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 11:11pm
Maybe I should not have. He kinda crumbled but he had that feel at the end of the 5th game and he won't forget about it, now he knows, he has tasted it. 

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 11:14pm
Interpreter: Darko(dark (w)hor(se))...

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/13/2020 at 11:25pm
I like very much the controlled tone from the commenting, the flat warm voice giving info to the newbies while describing alright for the rest is supporting the game, not dominating it. I would miss Adam if he was gone for too long but the break is appreciated.

Who is he?


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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 12:26am

jackwong23:



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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 12:35am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:


jackwong23:


LOL


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 12:35am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:


jackwong23:


LOLTongue


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 12:39am
Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Wong Chun Ting, with this good shape can defeat Harimoto I think. 

Yeh  wong can reach the final

LMAOSleepy


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 3:17am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:


jackwong23:


Waiting 8 months to have the chance to bash wongLOL


Posted By: Voids.Q
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 3:37am
Wong Chun Ting is now in much better form than the couple years before Covid started, but from what I saw in his match against Jeoung Youngsik, it probably wouldn't be enough to challenge the very top (like the CNT or Harimoto). It was actually a kinda sloppy performance from both players compared to their full potential, and he got a ton of nets&edges in 2 of the crucial games. Jeoung didn't really wake up till game 5 in that one. I'm not sure how close to top form Falck or Wong played in today's game though. 


Posted By: scdit46
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 5:14am
What reason is that Timo Boll is not clasiffied?


Posted By: Skynet
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 5:24am
Originally posted by scdit46 scdit46 wrote:

What reason is that Timo Boll is not clasiffied?


Timo had some problems with his back the last few months and is not yet fit to give 100% vs. the top players, so he passed the opportunity to play in this years WC and his spot went to Patrick Franziska.


Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 7:01am
Originally posted by Voids.Q Voids.Q wrote:

Wong Chun Ting is now in much better form than the couple years before Covid started, but from what I saw in his match against Jeoung Youngsik, it probably wouldn't be enough to challenge the very top (like the CNT or Harimoto)

Not just the Chinese, his best is not enough to challenge guys like Timo, Dima, Hugo, Lin Yunju, Pitchford.



Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 7:43am
Originally posted by Voids.Q Voids.Q wrote:

Wong Chun Ting is now in much better form than the couple years before Covid started, but from what I saw in his match against Jeoung Youngsik, it probably wouldn't be enough to challenge the very top (like the CNT or Harimoto). It was actually a kinda sloppy performance from both players compared to their full potential, and he got a ton of nets&edges in 2 of the crucial games. Jeoung didn't really wake up till game 5 in that one. I'm not sure how close to top form Falck or Wong played in today's game though. 

Wong Chun Ting has issues with his FH mechanics, it's powerful but his reload time is way too slow for the top 10 level. His RPB is insanely good though, and he's got very tight serves and receives too. 


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Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 10:08am
Originally posted by Voids.Q Voids.Q wrote:

Wong Chun Ting is now in much better form than the couple years before Covid started, but from what I saw in his match against Jeoung Youngsik, it probably wouldn't be enough to challenge the very top (like the CNT or Harimoto). It was actually a kinda sloppy performance from both players compared to their full potential, and he got a ton of nets&edges in 2 of the crucial games. Jeoung didn't really wake up till game 5 in that one. I'm not sure how close to top form Falck or Wong played in today's game though. 

Yeh, he unleashed some amazing BH against falck and his serves are better, he has improved a lot.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/14/2020 at 1:29pm
He's merely getting back to his 2016 form. He had to carry the team(looking at Ho Kwan Kit) while focusing on the XD with DHK ahead of Tokyo 2020.

The pandemic has given him the precious time to work on his technique.

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:20am
Harimoto stopped screaming?!

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BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:29am
HT is just faster now. his fh is so close to the body and his upper body rotation is so fast with the legs and all. 
2-1 and I do not think ML is the shadow of himself, I believe HT has improved so much.

edit: 4-1 it's incredible how early HT contacts.

edit: poof! ma long showed up finally.


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Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:32am
Harimoto is going to beat ma long


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:37am
Harimoto completely changed his BH and FH structure omg.... It's so much better now, with way less unforced errors compared to last year. Elbow is a lot closer to the body now for all strokes.

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BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:39am
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Harimoto completely changed his BH and FH structure omg.... It's so much better now, with way less unforced errors compared to last year. Elbow is a lot closer to the body now for all strokes.
I can't believe the change, total metamorphosis.

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:42am
Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Harimoto completely changed his BH and FH structure omg.... It's so much better now, with way less unforced errors compared to last year. Elbow is a lot closer to the body now for all strokes.
I can't believe the change, total metamorphosis.

He is a prodigy all right. You just see him improving so much in the space of a few months...


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:43am
harimoto has ML guessing when he will attack that big opening on his FH...ML is looking for it so hard he's confused.

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:44am
The tactics are also so on point, it's the exact copy of Fan Zhendong's tactics of using underspin/no spin serves to not give Ma Long any sidespin to work with.

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BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:48am
ML decides to use more spin on serves {higher toss} and attack harimoto's BH now

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Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:51am
now harimoto is protecting his BH and ML throws it to his FH lol

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:55am
Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

ML decides to use more spin on serves {higher toss} and attack harimoto's BH now

Yeah harimoto is not receiving the serve tight enough, he also should have gone with his chiquita to Ma Long's wide FH rather than just focusing on Ma Long's BH.


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 12:59am
I like the arms race... I would like to see Fan play this version of Harimoto. 

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BH: C1
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:01am
ML also needs a good redirect down the line with his backhand.  It is usually too predictable in fast rallies even though he does try to hit the middle occasionally. 

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BH: C1
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:06am
great come back from ML, he looks tired? i don't think  Fan vs Lin jang match will be a nail biter? dunno i'm going to bed now...need to be up early.

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Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:06am
harimoto is a chocker


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:08am
Damn just one serve pattern changed the outcome of the entire match....

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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:09am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

harimoto is a chocker

He couldn't control the service return for the high toss serve :(


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:09am
Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Harimoto is going to beat ma long

Only in among us
Ma long vaccinated harimoto . Hari Chickened at the final, a preview that it will happen in tokyo.


Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:13am
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

ML decides to use more spin on serves {higher toss} and attack harimoto's BH now

Yeah harimoto is not receiving the serve tight enough, he also should have gone with his chiquita to Ma Long's wide FH rather than just focusing on Ma Long's BH.

Ma long couldnt go for speed against harimoto and served high toss to loop with more spin and placement. Good expertise on pitchford. 


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 1:15am
HT started making unforced errors he was not making in his way to leading 3-1. Credits to Ma Long who found his way to play his bigger wingspan and brought the high toss short unserspin serve. HT knows what he needs to work on.

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 2:03am
FZD cruises through 4-0 unopposed.... 

I don't think Ma Long is gonna win the final, unlike Harimoto, Fan Zhendong knows all his tricks and have deciphered them pretty much...


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Dignics 09c


Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 2:06am
A player does not win as much as Ma Long has without being mentally strong and being able to adjust and change tactics.  That was an exciting match.  I am still going with ML in the final.


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 2:31am
Ladies and Gentlemen, Captain Long is speaking. We went trough some disturbances when flying above the mount Harimoto and therefore, we apology for all inconvenience.
We wish you a nice trip and we look forward to seeing you again on board soon.
Thanks for flying with air China.

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Posted By: jackwong23
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 5:01am
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Damn just one serve pattern changed the outcome of the entire match....

hari snapped defeat from the jaws of victory,  should have won really. 
malong changed the tempo of his shots and serve and hari lost 3 sets in a row. His inexperience cost him the match I feel.




Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 6:52am
cleverness is part of the game.

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Posted By: Basquests
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 7:12am
There's three types of people, those who credit someone for making good adjustments, and those who shit on those who can't react to those adjustments in time...and those who just blindly say someone is a choker.

Harimoto played a great match, and then Ma Long made an adjustment harimoto couldn't deal with in time. Ma Long I'm sure was probing all match to find a weak point he could exploit, and finally found the winning formula that harimoto couldn't deal with. Credit to Harimoto that he executed so well, and forced ML to the brink, and kept his level high throughout the match.

Funnily enough, most players [amateurs] in my experience can't even react to one adjustment, let alone several..made by one of the best players OAT in Ma long, whose execution and sense is unparalleled [as in his adjustments are far better and clinical].

I prefer to give credit to guys like ML who find a way to win time and time again, especially when its clear Harimoto's level didn't exactly drop, he simply was winning 40-45% of points against the ML of sets 5->7, rather than chucking completely unforced errors or breaking down tactically himself.


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/15/2020 at 7:30am
Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

There's three types of people, those who credit someone for making good adjustments, and those who shit on those who can't react to those adjustments in time...and those who just blindly say someone is a choker.

Harimoto played a great match, and then Ma Long made an adjustment harimoto couldn't deal with in time. Ma Long I'm sure was probing all match to find a weak point he could exploit, and finally found the winning formula that harimoto couldn't deal with. Credit to Harimoto that he executed so well, and forced ML to the brink, and kept his level high throughout the match.

Funnily enough, most players [amateurs] in my experience can't even react to one adjustment, let alone several..made by one of the best players OAT in Ma long, whose execution and sense is unparalleled [as in his adjustments are far better and clinical].

I prefer to give credit to guys like ML who find a way to win time and time again, especially when its clear Harimoto's level didn't exactly drop, he simply was winning 40-45% of points against the ML of sets 5->7, rather than chucking completely unforced errors or breaking down tactically himself.

This. I have never seen a player take the ball as consistently early as Harimoto did vs Ma Long and I don't think any other player would have survived that onslaught the way it happened.  I don't think anyone plays as fast as Harimoto and if he can adapt to change ups in pace, it bodes well for Harimoto's future.

The biggest issue Ma Long needs to fix is that he never goes down the line on backhand to backhand exchanges.   It makes him too predictable. 


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BH: C1
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