best hybrid rubbers in the market now?
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Topic: best hybrid rubbers in the market now?
Posted By: kindof99
Subject: best hybrid rubbers in the market now?
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 10:52am
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What would you consider the best hybrid rubber in the market now, besides D09C? ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 11:00am
| Rakza Z? |
Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 11:58am
| tibhar hybrid K3 no doubts |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 12:19pm
Rakza Z Extra Hard sucks. It does not generate speed at all. I heavily boosted it but it remained slow. Spin is good enough, but there´s no tackiness in the topsheet. It´s very grippy, like a 2 months-used H3 Neo. Hurricane 3 Neo or even Friendship Battle II BS are better than Rakza Z EH in every aspect.
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piligrim wrote:Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 12:21pm
I didn’t mention extra hard |
Posted By: Slowhand
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 12:27pm
| Stiga Dragon Grip and Tibhar K3. |
Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 12:32pm
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Has anyone tried Donic BlueGrip S2? Especially interested especially if any former Acuda S2 players have tried it.
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Posted By: Rinforzando
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 12:55pm
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Xiom Tau 2 and Victas Triple Double Extra if you want something really close to chinese boosted rubbers, otherwise I'd Suggest Donic Bluegrip C2. ------------- Blade: Nblades power plant 1 ply Hinoki FH: Rallys Redmonkey BH: Spinlab Vortex 2 |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 2:22pm
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I think the problem for most hybrid rubbers is the short durability and inconsistency after a while. I used to like Rakza, but after one month, it plays quite different. Joola Dynaryn cmd getts good reviews among Chinese amateur players, but it seems to be heavy and have short durability. ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 2:45pm
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my Rakza z seemed quicker than my usual T05 at first but that didn't last long and even after boosting with Falco long I couldn't get the original speed back,the tack does fade ,I restored it ok with olive oil but gave up on the rubber due to the dramatic drop in speed ------------- Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox |
Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 5:39pm
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My experience with my Rakza Z extra hard was very different. Fresh out of the packet the rubber felt extremely slow. It had a weird throw angle too. I was using H3 neo provincial 41 deg, boosted with 2 layers of Haifu Seamoon, prior to the Rakza Z EH. As days went by, the rubber lost its minor tackiness and started becoming more and more explosive in terms of speed. That speed lasted for at least 30-40 hours, I would say. After that, I found some noticeable reduction in overall spin and speed on power shots but the serve game still remained spinny as hell. In my opinion, Rakza Z EH takes a bit of time to adjust to but it is definitely a very good hybrid alternative. The other one that I have tried is Donic Bluegrip C2. C2 was an absolute delight to play with. I am not too sure about the top end speed of it though as the blade that I played it on was an all wood blade. It felt powerful but it had a weirdly high dwell that made it feel a bit hard to generate top end speed. Right now, I am eagerly waiting to try Tibhar Hybrid K3 and DNA dragongrip. On a side note, I did try the Nittaku Hurricane Pro 3 Turbo Red recently that a pro player had on his custom ZLC blade and I felt like it was a decent rubber, even though it wasn't boosted. It did not have huge amount of springiness to it but when you engage the sponge, it really delivered a lot of power. It is definitely on my list of hybrids to try out. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FL FH - Undecided BH - Undecided |
Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 7:39pm
| No love for butterfly spinart? I haven't tried it, but local club players do sing its praises as a hybrid rubber |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 06/10/2022 at 8:06pm
Spinart is a great rubber, huge amount of spin. Probably in the same class as 09C. -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/11/2022 at 3:35am
Spinart was a poor seller for Butterfly, while 09C is quite popular. That does not make it a 'bad rubber' of course, there's quite a few rubbers out there which sell very poorly, yet they're hugely popular amongst a small number of players. That might be a good subject of a new topic.
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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 06/11/2022 at 9:17am
| I wonder if anyone has used Omega VII China Ying or Guang. |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 06/11/2022 at 11:33am
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Victas V20 double extra. ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 06/11/2022 at 12:23pm
This functional curve of Rakza Z also puzzles me. When the tackiness fades, the rubber is supposed to be faster. I don't understand why a hard rubber suddenly becomes slower after a while. ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 4:16am
Second on that  Haven't found anything that I've tried as good yet.
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Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 5:48am
I played with the Guang version for a while and it was a great hybrid and was a seamless and powerful switch from boosted h3 Neo. However, the performance and speed faded after 1.5 months of use. And the Booster did not help after a while. I found rakza z eh to be better bang for buck but it definitely needs a bit more body power to generate speed as compared to omega 7 china Guang. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FL FH - Undecided BH - Undecided |
Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 6:24am
| waiting for reviews for andro rasanter c53 and 48 |
Posted By: Harald
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 6:50am
played both on Bh,i find the Acuda more predictable and stable,the Bluegrip has more spin and another topsheet to sponge process. I stayed with the Acuda for a while and the Bluegrip seems to me like a forray into the soft Hybrids. Just my 2 cents. |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 7:10am
+1 ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 8:42am
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I'd like a tacky t05,same spring sponge and pimples configuration ,I have gained a slight tack on t05 with regular spinmax application but would like a little more,like a tackiness c type tack...they'll never do it though
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 12:36pm
Seth Pech agrees with you guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRWII8PteU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRWII8PteU |
Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 12:45pm
i thought this one was going to be an improved v15 (so not tacky)
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 12:51pm
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K3 is the best in this bracket I've tried. I still prefer something a little tackier on the FH so I keep drifting back to Rakza Z EH. And am curious to try something a little softer on the BH, so I'm looking forward to Rasanter C48. But honestly that's just tinkering around the edges and I should stop faffing around and use it both sides. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 1:23pm
| If you want something tackier than K3, K2 is the answer. I have not found another hybrid that's as tacky as K2. |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 3:26pm
K3 not ideal for BH if you need to play variable due to medium-hard topsheet/hard sponge/tack slowing direct shots/blocks etc down ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 06/12/2022 at 9:20pm
| I see some K3 users here, what can you say about its durability? |
Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 06/13/2022 at 12:51am
There is no problem with Rakza Z but I would rather blame Falco Falco will act similarly with tacky hard rubbers ------------- There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market. Falco is not a booster |
Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 06/13/2022 at 1:30am
I used it for 3 months. At the beginning i didn’t like it fresh out of the pack, after a few trainings the rubber became more lively. You start to see the surface deteriorating after 10 days but it does not affect play and rubber starts to feel a bit less responsive after 3 weeks but after the performance is quite constant. Let’s say if you train a lot it’s a rubber that lasts 2,5 months
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