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Topic: WTT Champions Xinxiang 2023, 4/9-15
Posted By: zeio
Subject: WTT Champions Xinxiang 2023, 4/9-15
Date Posted: 03/06/2023 at 6:14am
https://worldtabletennis.com/description?artId=2225" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/description?artId=2225
https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2737" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2737

MS
https://i.imgur.com/5u9qtxe.png" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/5u9qtxe.png
WS
https://i.imgur.com/y90m2uv.png" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/y90m2uv.png

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g



Replies:
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 03/16/2023 at 9:07am
I really don"t like this format.
regarding ittf points, it increases the gap between the top 30 players and the other ones...
And even this, this is not exactly true since players like Chen Xingtong, Zhang Rui, Qian Tianyi, Miu Hirano.....may not participate....and no qualifications.
Those tournaments should be exhibition tournaments with...money but no points.


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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/16/2023 at 10:09am
The biggest problem I have is the timing. Slipping in 2 WTT CS back-to-back right before the WTTC, where seeding plays a big factor?

Anyone can smell from a mile away that they want to downplay and sabotage the WTTC and Olympics as much/soon as possible.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1138212&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1138212" rel="nofollow - https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1138212&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1138212
Quote Table Tennis Report refrained from on-site coverage at the World Championships for the first time since its creation in 1957 (including the period after moving to the web publication in 2018). There were many reasons for the decision, but the absence on site left us great scars. In a similar manner there were many players who decided not to attend the event for several reasons. Among them, especially, the German Table Tennis Association made a radical decision to attend the event without the top three players, it made us want to ask the real truth behind such a decision.
I hope the World Team Championships held once every two years will remain the most prestigious event to decide the strongest team in the world. We watched some nail-biting fierce battles in Chengdu, some of which were fiercer than in the past. Therefore, we do not think the authority of the event was damaged even though some of the top players had cancelled their attendance. However, that does not sweep away the non-attendance of the players who should have been there. Such regulations should be reviewed if the lack of the points awarded to the singles ranking for the wins in the team event contributed to the decision of not attending the championships as Ms. Herweg mentioned.
Luckily, we can confirm the fact that Ms. Herweg, eventually the German Table Tennis Association, has the same thoughts.
The decision is up to the players eventually, but we sincerely hope the World Team Championships will remain the best stage for the players where they are honoured to perform.

(Article by Takahiro Sato)


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/17/2023 at 3:54pm
https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2593&selectedTab=Player%20List" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2593&selectedTab=Player%20List
WTT CS ESS 2022
MS
1/1 wildcard - Bence Majoros WR135
1/1 WTT nomination - Alexis Lebrun WR47
WS
1/1 wildcard - Georgina Pota WR57
1/1 WTT nomination - Chen Xingtong WR32

https://www.ittf.com/2022-ittf-table-tennis-world-ranking/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/2022-ittf-table-tennis-world-ranking/
WK25 2022/6/21 was used for entry list per the handbook (4 weeks prior the event start). WK27 2022/7/5 was used for seeding, when WK28 2022/7/12 should've been used (even though no change). Regardless, next in line after the NER were Liu Weishan WR19, Fan Siqi WR21, Hirano WR27, Chen Xingtong WR31, Kuai Man WR33... For men, https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91735&PID=1128533&title=european-summer-series-2022-7-1122#1128533" rel="nofollow - JWJ WR 37 and within NER had to pull out after testing positive . Next in line after NER were Filus WR29, Duda WR30, Yuan Licen WR33, Xiang Peng WR34...

https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2619&selectedTab=Player%20List" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2619&selectedTab=Player%20List
WTT CS Macao 2022
MS
1/1 wildcard - Lin Gaoyuan WR12
1/1 WTT nomination - Unused
WS
1/1 wildcard - Chen Xingtong WR13
1/1 WTT nomination - Unused

TTWR WK34 2022/8/23 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92273&PID=1133488&title=wtt-champions-macao-2022-10-1923#1133488" rel="nofollow - was used for entry list , when WK38 2022/9/20 should've been used. WK39 2022/9/27 was used for seeding, when WK42 2022/10/18 should've been used (even though little change).

WTT CS Macao 2022 took place right after WTTC 2022, and Hayata withdrew due to upper arm injury during WTTC 2022, and several players that were qualified by WR and NER chose not to participate, and China's COVID-19 policy made it nigh-impossible to fly there on short notice so it was understandable.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 03/21/2023 at 12:45pm
LSD and QTY each got one of the wildcards.




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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/22/2023 at 1:09pm
MS
1/1 wildcard: Lin Shidong
1/1 WTT nomination: F. Lebrun
WS
1/1 wildcard: Chen Xingtong
1/1 WTT nomination: Samara

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 03/22/2023 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

MS
1/1 wildcard: Lin Shidong
1/1 WTT nomination: F. Lebrun





Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/23/2023 at 3:12am
Entry lists

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_MS.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_MS.html
Men's Singles
2023 Week #11
RankNameAssocPoints
1FAN ZhendongCHN77251
2MA LongCHN44002
3WANG ChuqinCHN43453
4Tomokazu HARIMOTOJPN40554
5Hugo CALDERANOBRA35255
6LIANG JingkunCHN34106
7Truls MOREGARDSWE33457
8LIN Yun-JuTPE25558
9Dimitrij OVTCHAROVGER22559
10Darko JORGICSLO225010
11Dang QIUGER214011
12LIN GaoyuanCHN1880CHN5
13Patrick FRANZISKAGER178012
14Quadri ARUNANGR174513
15Timo BOLLGER156514
16LIM JonghoonKOR155515
17JANG WoojinKOR152516
18CHUANG Chih-YuanTPE149517
19LIN ShidongCHN1450CHN6WC
20Yukiya UDAJPN119518
21Kristian KARLSSONSWE119519
22Anton KALLBERGSWE117520
23Kanak JHAUSA1175Suspended
24Liam PITCHFORDENG113021
25Andrej GACINACRO104522
26LEE SangsuKOR104523
27Omar ASSAREGY104024
28Alexis LEBRUNFRA93825
29Hiroto SHINOZUKAJPN91226
30WONG Chun TingHKG90527
31XIANG PengCHN895CHN7
32Simon GAUZYFRA87528
33Kirill GERASSIMENKOKAZ85029
34Marcos FREITASPOR83530
35Benedikt DUDAGER825GER5
36Mattias FALCKSWE810
37Ruwen FILUSGER770GER6
38YUAN LicenCHN720CHN8
39Yang WANGSVK615
40ZHOU QihaoCHN575CHN9
41Sathiyan GNANASEKARANIND565
42Jon PERSSONSWE550SWE5
43Alvaro ROBLESESP530
44Nicholas LUMAUS523
45LIANG YanningCHN520CHN10
46Felix LEBRUNFRA515WTT
47Robert GARDOSAUT510
48Tomislav PUCARCRO500
49Shunsuke TOGAMIJPN495
50AN JaehyunKOR490


https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_WS.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_WS.html
Women's Singles
2023 Week #11
RankNameAssocPoints
1SUN YingshaCHN82701
2CHEN MengCHN67402
3WANG YidiCHN53753
4WANG ManyuCHN52754
5Mima ITOJPN29905
6Hina HAYATAJPN28306
7CHEN XingtongCHN2255CHN5WC
8Kasumi ISHIKAWAJPN18907
9DOO Hoi KemHKG18708
10Ying HANGER17609
11Xiaoxin YANGMON159010
12FAN SiqiCHN1575CHN6
13Sofia POLCANOVAAUT155011
14Adriana DIAZPUR151512
15Nina MITTELHAMGER141513
16ZHANG RuiCHN1333CHN7
17Miyuu KIHARAJPN129014
18CHENG I-ChingTPE127515
19Jia Nan YUANFRA126016
20Fu YUPOR124517
21Miu HIRANOJPN1220JPN5
22QIAN TianyiCHN1210CHN8
23LIU WeishanCHN1145CHN9
24JEON JiheeKOR113518
25SHIN YubinKOR104519
26CHEN Szu-YuTPE102520
27KUAI ManCHN990CHN10
28Lily ZHANGUSA97021
29Bruna TAKAHASHIBRA96022
30Dina MESHREFEGY94023
31Xiaona SHANGER93024
32Bernadette SZOCSROU91525
33Hana MATELOVACZE89526
34Manika BATRAIND86527
35Suthasini SAWETTABUTTHA85528
36Yangzi LIUAUS78929
37Miwa HARIMOTOJPN783JPN6
38Xia Lian NILUX72030
39Hana GODAEGY695
40Miyu NAGASAKIJPN695JPN7
41FENG TianweiSGP675
42Elizabeta SAMARAROU615WTT
43CHOI HyojooKOR605
44Sabine WINTERGER595
45Minhyung JEEAUS592
46Margaryta PESOTSKAUKR590
47SUH HyowonKOR584
48Jieni SHAOPOR580
49Mo ZHANGCAN569
50HE ZhuojiaCHN568CHN11


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/01/2023 at 1:49pm
WTT must be rather short on cash. I thought ball kids were volunteers.

https://www.douban.com/group/topic/285518880/" rel="nofollow - https://www.douban.com/group/topic/285518880/

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: hleett
Date Posted: 04/01/2023 at 6:23pm
That's one way to beef up the price money.


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/04/2023 at 3:37am
Duda takes injured Boll's place as 4th German allowed to play this event.

When I saw the list a few weeks ago, QTY got the wild card.....then they gave it to CXT.
QTY injured or they once again decided to play the dictator's game ?



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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/04/2023 at 3:53am
No change to the wildcards. Douban users have been keeping track.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 04/04/2023 at 5:48pm
Is Hirano playing? 


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/05/2023 at 2:17am
Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Is Hirano playing? 

No, she was (and she is still) not among the 4 high ranked Japanese


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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 04/05/2023 at 2:42am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Is Hirano playing? 

No, she was (and she is still) not among the 4 high ranked Japanese

huh? i saw her name in zeio's entry list, alongside Miwa Harimoto and Miyuu Kihara too.


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Viscaria
FH: Hurricane 8-80
BH: D05

Back to normal shape bats :(


Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 04/05/2023 at 4:24am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

I really don"t like this format.
regarding ittf points, it increases the gap between the top 30 players and the other ones...
And even this, this is not exactly true since players like Chen Xingtong, Zhang Rui, Qian Tianyi, Miu Hirano.....may not participate....and no qualifications.
Those tournaments should be exhibition tournaments with...money but no points.

Completely agree. If you want to run big tournaments where you are picky about who can play, fine. But, these events should not go towards WR, especially since the new system makes WR more important than ever as WTT organises tournaments in a way that ignores national leagues and looks towards creating a tennis style system where the top players make good money from tour events whilst anyone outside the top 20 has to pay to play. 

Imagine being ranked 7th in Germany and harbouring some ambition to playing in big events and getting a WR that reflects your ability. Not possible, instead you find yourself ineligible for big events and ranked behind players worse than you that are fortunate enough to represent smaller countries.


Posted By: meetskorun
Date Posted: 04/07/2023 at 3:15am
LSD and QTY each got one of the wildcards.
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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/07/2023 at 10:23am
The poor Lily Z gets Han Ying...again .

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/07/2023 at 11:52am
4/3
Withdrawal: Boll due to shoulder injury
Replacement: Duda

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/09/2023 at 5:08am
Damn, so close by Dina. Almost beat WMY

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/09/2023 at 5:10am
WMY was playing exactly the way Meshref liked.....

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 12:01am
Hayata: How did I lose last year?




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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 2:44am
That yellow card for CIC at 8:8 in G3 helped her instead and changed the course of the match.




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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:01am
CCY forfeits after 2 games.



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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:03am
Perhaps a spot for Felix Lebrun in Macao ?

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:06am
Shan is a long pimple killer.
I watched her play several champion's league matches Vs opponents who used LP...She rolled over them.


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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:07am
I would give Lily 5 % chances to win it.

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:19am
Nice of Bobrow to suggest the expedite rule as a potential way to beat choppers but there are examples that it actually helped them.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91735&PID=1129232&title=european-summer-series-2022-7-1122#1129232" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91735&PID=1129232&title=european-summer-series-2022-7-1122#1129232

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:21am
0% if Zhang An can't out-push HY.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:28am
Is USATT so poor they can't hire a chopper for Zhang An?

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 4:20am
Both were out of form. I think the KNT members just came out of the national team tryout.









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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 4:51am
Many of them look so tired.





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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 9:27am
DHK's BH still visibly affected by the golfer's elbow.




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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 10:04am











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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 10:21am
Although I did think Kasumi would beat Adriana, I didn't think it would be with scores of 5,4,11.


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 4:40pm
Kihara got a worse draw playing CYT than Ito but somehow I have equal confidence whether they’d lose/win lol! 


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Although I did think Kasumi would beat Adriana, I didn't think it would be with scores of 5,4,11.

Coach Qiu has trained Adriana to be a little Kasumi. How can a mimic beat the original?Wink


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 5:44pm
It appears that Filus did not get any punishment for his paddle throwing...

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 04/10/2023 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Shan is a long pimple killer.
I watched her play several champion's league matches Vs opponents who used LP...She rolled over them.





Except Yang Xiaoxin of course


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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 1:02am
Yes but YXX and He Zhuojia plays with LP (with 1,5mm sponges) like they would have played with a short pimple rubber, both are no pushblokker and no defender.
Batra is unable to play like this.


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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 2:35am
Hayata: How did I lose last month?
















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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 2:41am
Filus vs Gacina
84, 811
53, 66, 77, 88, 119
51, 114
55, 710, 1010, 1011, 1211, 1213, 1413, 1416
02, 32, 33, 53, 55, 85 TO for Gacina, 86, 116





Kihara: Thumbs-up for "Chiquita".




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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 3:45am
Seems the 5th ranked Chinese is eating the 4th Japanese alive

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 4:02am





MLin: Did it hurt?








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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 7:32am
She needs to peak at the right time.



















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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 8:08am
Lim Junghoon: Quadri can beat him.

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 8:13am
Thank you Lim !

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 8:16am
Harimoto vs LJH
114
15, 45 TO for LJH, 46, 86, 811
46, 56, 511
03, 13, 17, 27, 28, 68, 69, 89, 810, 1010, 1012

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91046&PID=1135431&title=the-end-of-the-harimoto-dream#1135431" rel="nofollow - Same old "mindset" problem.








































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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 8:44am
Hirano: No comment.






















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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 9:32am
ML is lucky to have FZD.

LYJ vs ML
115
35, 97, 119
04, 24, 25, 28, 38, 310, 610, 611
10, 11, 21, 22, 32, 33, 43, 44, 64 TO for ML, 84, 85, 95, 910, 1010, 1210







































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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 9:32am
Lin Yun Ju's backhand cross shot was really impressive.

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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: Catenaccio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 9:35am
Nice upset by LYJ!!!

I was lamenting the draw because I thought he would lose to ML. Thought LYJ did better in the open rallies than in previous encounters, he didn't allow ML to attack the serve as often, and he took a page from CDS (when he shocked FZD in Goa, i.e. go all-out on some counters). 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 9:59am








-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Catenaccio Catenaccio wrote:

Nice upset by LYJ!!!

I was lamenting the draw because I thought he would lose to ML. Thought LYJ did better in the open rallies than in previous encounters, he didn't allow ML to attack the serve as often, and he took a page from CDS (when he shocked FZD in Goa, i.e. go all-out on some counters). 
i will have to watch the match.  ML's match yesterday was not all that interesting so hopefully this one is better.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/11/2023 at 10:56am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Thank you Lim !
hopefully he get to play Truls the next round.  I would like to see LIM get a revenge  on the world championship match.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 3:44am
HY 1-3 SYB
Revenge for Tokyo 2020.

A. Lebrun vs Moregard
119
72, 911
115
117




































F. Lebrun & Gauzy: Vice Champion?











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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 3:45am
Much better than at WTT SCT Goa but still NOT ENOUGH to take a game. CIC needs to get those winners at least TWICE in the endgame but could only manage ONCE.

Coupled with 3-2 Polcanova last round and then 1-3 Diaz at Singapore Smash, her outlook for WTTC 2023 is really not that good.









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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 6:03am
Do I have to stand this for another week?





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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 6:58am
Seems a bit obvious that LSD has overtaken XP in the short term as the big youngster from China.  I wonder whether he will be picked over LGY for the WTTC.  

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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 7:35am
http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1130544&title=qiu-dang#1130544" rel="nofollow - What did jackwong23 say about Qiu Dang again?





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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 7:53am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

https://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1130544&title=qiu-dang#1130544" rel="nofollow - What did jackwong23 say about Qiu Dang again?
He said he's the best penholder outside of China.  Who do you think is the best *penholder* outside of China?


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 8:09am
Szocs is just 2 years younger than Ishikawa?




They say table tennis is not as popular now in China.





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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 8:13am
Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

https://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76840&PID=1130544&title=qiu-dang#1130544" rel="nofollow - What did jackwong23 say about Qiu Dang again?

He said he's the best penholder outside of China.  Who do you think is the best *penholder* outside of China?

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1133112&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1133112" rel="nofollow - Do I have to spell it out again?

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 8:45am
Please win, Filus. I want to see if http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92160&PID=1131946&title=wtt-contender-almaty-2022-9-1318#1131946" rel="nofollow - LYJ has solved the problem .















Zhu Xiaoyong: Stop throwing your racket. People are grilling us for turning a blind eye.














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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 10:05am
Calderano can't play chop is a bit depressing for a player that good.

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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 10:27am
Without the withdrawals of Boll and Ovtcharov, we wouldn’t have had the opportunities to see this wonderful player Ruwen Filus… so thank you Dima and Timo !

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: jfolsen
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 11:30am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Without the withdrawals of Boll and Ovtcharov, we wouldn’t have had the opportunities to see this wonderful player Ruwen Filus… so thank you Dima and Timo !


Don't forget that Filus should be serving a suspension right now for throwing his racket hard enough that it sailed out of the court and almost hit a photographer. So thank the referee too.


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Without the withdrawals of Boll and Ovtcharov, we wouldn’t have had the opportunities to see this wonderful player Ruwen Filus… so thank you Dima and Timo !


Don't forget that Filus should be serving a suspension right now for throwing his racket hard enough that it sailed out of the court and almost hit a photographer. So thank the referee too.

I imagine he had to give some explanations about this and they accepted it, even if he should have been punished. Lots of players threw their rackets and not a lot of them were severely punished.
They got either a red card or a disqualification but that's all.
Only Wang chuqin was suspended...by his own federation otherwise he could have played the day after.


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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Without the withdrawals of Boll and Ovtcharov, we wouldn’t have had the opportunities to see this wonderful player Ruwen Filus… so thank you Dima and Timo !


Don't forget that Filus should be serving a suspension right now for throwing his racket hard enough that it sailed out of the court and almost hit a photographer. So thank the referee too.


I imagine he had to give some explanations about this and they accepted it, even if he should have been punished. Lots of players threw their rackets and not a lot of them were severely punished.
They got either a red card or a disqualification but that's all.
Only Wang chuqin was suspended...by his own federation otherwise he could have played the day after.



Exactly. Pletea did this many times and never was punished


Posted By: Catenaccio
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 6:33pm
Alexis Lebrun's left hand was shaking when preparing to serve at 8:6 and 9:6 in Game 4. Kudos to him for managing to still play sufficiently well and win the match!

https://youtu.be/IjwKsdoTF2Y?t=1427" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/IjwKsdoTF2Y?t=1427


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 04/12/2023 at 10:03pm
I saw that too! So much adrenaline!!! 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 2:28am
CXT 2-2 WMY
G5 02, 52, 53, 103, 115


































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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 2:39am
This is going to take forever….I was hoping to watch Ruwen vs LYJ, oh well….goodnight lol


Posted By: Catenaccio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 3:14am
Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

This is going to take forever….I was hoping to watch Ruwen vs LYJ, oh well….goodnight lol

Ruwen vs LYJ is the last match of the day at 20:45 local time. Although CXT and WMY did overtime it won't affect the schedule of the evening session.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 4:09am























-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 4:28am






LJK: Gotta keep the poker face up.








-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 7:26am
Chen Meng with 0 confidence on each shot she plays.....Following Liu Shiwen and Ding Ning's steps into the decline.

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 7:46am
Chen Meng's today backhand is a nightmare.

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 8:11am
Can't believe she won it without BH in 90% of the match....

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Matador ST, Skyline 2 National 35° 2,15mm, Superstop 1,9mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 8:14am
Ok, Hayata and Ito are no Hirano. Hirano remains to this date the only one of the 3 to have defeated CM.


























































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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:04am
I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?

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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:15am
This match felt like a team order was given to FZD to make it difficult as a test for LSD's mental strength.



































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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:19am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92912&PID=1139749&title=ctta-selection-trials-for-wttc-2023#1139749" rel="nofollow - CNT: Yes.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:28am
Something feels different about Ito this time.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:35am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Something feels different about Ito this time.

It has been that way all tournament - I don't think it will be enough though.  It is unfortunate she got this particular opponent with all the innovations and improvements.


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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: Catenaccio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 9:36am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Something feels different about Ito this time.

It seems that Ito is playing with more topspin on the FH rather than trying to smash all the time. Although she lost the second game, it's a good change compared to previous matches vs SYS imo.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 10:01am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 10:03am



Kirby and?


















-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 10:31am
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?


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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 10:41am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Please win, Filus. I want to see if http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92160&PID=1131946&title=wtt-contender-almaty-2022-9-1318#1131946" rel="nofollow - LYJ has solved the problem .

Bo5, no problem.
Bo7, still unknown.









Zhu Xiaoyong: Promise me, don't throw your racket.










All East Asians. All names use Chinese characters.


-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 10:41am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 11:14am
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.

Good shoemaking can make someone look significantly weaker than they really are.  But since you haven't watched this FZD match, no point in commenting until you have.


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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: Catenaccio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 11:17am
LYJ is going to overtake Dang Qiu and LGY in the world rankings after this tournament. Will be back to number 8 assuming that LJH doesn't go one round further than LYJ.


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 11:38am
Filus was looks like very tired from beginning ...


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by Catenaccio Catenaccio wrote:

It seems that Ito is playing with more topspin on the FH rather than trying to smash all the time. Although she lost the second game, it's a good change compared to previous matches vs SYS imo.

No doubt about that. Same on the BH. She brushes way more and goes over the ball instead.

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

It has been that way all tournament - I don't think it will be enough though.  It is unfortunate she got this particular opponent with all the innovations and improvements.

The level displayed in the first 3 games felt rather close to that of late 2019, specifically Swedish Open, World Team Cup, and T2 Diamond Singapore. Given that, I feel that running into SYS, who is currently the most consistent on the CNT (100% win rate against non-CNT players in the Paris 2024 period), is actually beneficial to her before WTTC 2023. It's better than running into CM/WMY/WYD/CXT and lose, who have lost to Szocs, Samara, Hirano, Batra...

-------------
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 1:26pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.

Good shoemaking can make someone look significantly weaker than they really are.  But since you haven't watched this FZD match, no point in commenting until you have.
I managed to see the decider.  Both LSD and FZD had amazing rallies.  To the point above, if we assume LSD was not less capable here than when he played Lebrun, I didn't see FZD not be able to handle LSD's power, constantly.  So I could say to your comment (which is true) that a weaker opponent could make one's shot making more amazing.  My objection to Riley's comment was that it could be easily misinterpreted as that LSD is the GOAT. 


Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.

Good shoemaking can make someone look significantly weaker than they really are.  But since you haven't watched this FZD match, no point in commenting until you have.
I managed to see the decider.  Both LSD and FZD had amazing rallies.  To the point above, if we assume LSD was not less capable here than when he played Lebrun, I didn't see FZD not be able to handle LSD's power, constantly.  So I could say to your comment (which is true) that a weaker opponent could make one's shot making more amazing.  My objection to Riley's comment was that it could be easily misinterpreted as that LSD is the GOAT. 

https://youtu.be/UWdevhLM_88" rel="nofollow - Controversy!   


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 2:02pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.

Good shoemaking can make someone look significantly weaker than they really are.  But since you haven't watched this FZD match, no point in commenting until you have.
I managed to see the decider.  Both LSD and FZD had amazing rallies.  To the point above, if we assume LSD was not less capable here than when he played Lebrun, I didn't see FZD not be able to handle LSD's power, constantly.  So I could say to your comment (which is true) that a weaker opponent could make one's shot making more amazing.  My objection to Riley's comment was that it could be easily misinterpreted as that LSD is the GOAT. 

Ah okay.   Other than your suggesting this misinterpretation, do you know someone who actually made this misinterpretation?

BTW, you still haven't watched the match, so until you do watch it, your comments are still barely informed.


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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 2:19pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I get that Frazer Riley (the English commentator) can be annoying - but does anyone watching this think that his call on Lin Shindong (vs Lebrun) was still insane?
again best shot making (not agreeing or disagreeing on his comment)  is different than best player in the world

I agree.  So you don't think the shotmaking in this match was excellent?  Or the shotmaking in that Lebrun match was excellent?  You have matches with better examples of shot making lined up that we can all compare and contrast?
did not have a chance to watch this match yet.  He was brilliant in the Lebrun match in that department but Lebrun was a relatively weaker opponent.

Good shoemaking can make someone look significantly weaker than they really are.  But since you haven't watched this FZD match, no point in commenting until you have.
I managed to see the decider.  Both LSD and FZD had amazing rallies.  To the point above, if we assume LSD was not less capable here than when he played Lebrun, I didn't see FZD not be able to handle LSD's power, constantly.  So I could say to your comment (which is true) that a weaker opponent could make one's shot making more amazing.  My objection to Riley's comment was that it could be easily misinterpreted as that LSD is the GOAT. 

Ah okay.   Other than your suggesting this misinterpretation, do you know someone who actually made this misinterpretation?

BTW, you still haven't watched the match, so until you do watch it, your comments are still barely informed.
didn't discuss Riley's comment with anyone outside of this forum.  But don't you think that a lot of casual watchers of TT could misinterpret his comments?  BTW I did watch the decider - are the first 4 games very different?


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/13/2023 at 6:06pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

didn't discuss Riley's comment with anyone outside of this forum.  But don't you think that a lot of casual watchers of TT could misinterpret his comments?  BTW I did watch the decider - are the first 4 games very different?

No, I don't think casual watchers could misinterpret his comments - and it isn't common for casual watchers to watch ITTF/WTT streams if that is your concern.

As for the first four games, LSD had match points and was the player in control for most of the match.  I will leave it at that since in the end, your opinion is always yours.  


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FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...



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