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Topic: Best forehand backhand hybrid rubbers
Posted By: kindof99
Subject: Best forehand backhand hybrid rubbers
Date Posted: 08/29/2023 at 11:47pm
I feel Dignics 09c is probably among the best hybrid rubbers out there. What other hybrid rubbers would you consider best for forehand and backhand?




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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 12:05am
Joola Golden Tango.

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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 3:16am
Tibhar K3 hybrid 




Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 6:15am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Joola Golden Tango.
I am thinking to try one in the future. What puzzles me is how Joola golden tango can compete with the new hybrid rubbers since it was introduced to the market six or seven years ago.


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 6:17am
Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

Tibhar K3 hybrid 


K3 seems to get reviews. 

How about Donic bluegrip c2 on forehand and bluegrip s2 on backhand?


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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 8:43am
I have a Rakza Z Extra Hard, not sure if it is a Hybrid.
But I say it has nothing of extra hard, not even hard. It gives a semi-hard touch with no tacky feature. But after some sessions it became very grippy, and it seems to last forever.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 10:33am
this is not a hybrid but you might want to look into Andro Rasanter C series


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 11:36am
Both Rakza Z and Rakza Z Extra Hard are hybrids. I have tried Rakza Z and quite liked it at the beginning. But it functions differently after a while.

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Posted By: hleett
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 11:43am
Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?

To me, it feels harder than D09C and Rakza Z. 


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Posted By: hleett
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?

To me, it feels harder than D09C and Rakza Z. 

Is that the XH, H, or M?


Posted By: Joo Se Kev
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

I have a Rakza Z Extra Hard, not sure if it is a Hybrid.
But I say it has nothing of extra hard, not even hard. It gives a semi-hard touch with no tacky feature. But after some sessions it became very grippy, and it seems to last forever.

Interesting. My RZEH was easily tacky enough to pick a ball up and retained its tackiness even when worn in. I agree that it feels softer than you would expect given its hard sponge though.


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Posted By: Eric Fountain
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 1:23pm
H8-80 38


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 2:29pm
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Joola Golden Tango.
I am thinking to try one in the future. What puzzles me is how Joola golden tango can compete with the new hybrid rubbers since it was introduced to the market six or seven years ago.

Depends on how you play, but if you wouldn't ask the same question about Dignics 09c, why would you ask it about Golden Tango?  Golden Tango isn't the fastest, but it is very reliable and durable and very spinny.


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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?

To me, it feels harder than D09C and Rakza Z. 

Is that the XH, H, or M?
are you talking about the DNA Dragon Grip or the Pro/Platinum?


Posted By: hleett
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?

To me, it feels harder than D09C and Rakza Z. 

Is that the XH, H, or M?
are you talking about the DNA Dragon Grip or the Pro/Platinum?
The new DNA Hybrid. This rubber may not be available in EUrope or the US yet.


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 4:21pm
Omega 7 China 2 versions, Rakza Z 2 versions, Stiga DNA Dragon Grip, Xiom Vega China, Xiom Tau 2, Joola Golden Tango, Joola Rhyzen AGR and CMD. 

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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Has anyone tried the new Stiga DNA Hybrid?

To me, it feels harder than D09C and Rakza Z. 

Is that the XH, H, or M?
are you talking about the DNA Dragon Grip or the Pro/Platinum?
The new DNA Hybrid. This rubber may not be available in EUrope or the US yet.
can't wait


Posted By: BriDav12
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 6:31pm
Rakza Z lacks that muted pop of catapult I get from 09C. The only rubber hat comes close to 09C for me is boosted  H3 (not a hybrid, obviously).

Been really wanting to try PK50. Can anyone compare it to 09C?


Posted By: BriDav12
Date Posted: 08/30/2023 at 6:34pm
interesting. I thought that H8-80 felt more like Rakza Z 


Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 08/31/2023 at 2:01am
Originally posted by BriDav12 BriDav12 wrote:

Rakza Z lacks that muted pop of catapult I get from 09C. The only rubber hat comes close to 09C for me is boosted  H3 (not a hybrid, obviously).

Been really wanting to try PK50. Can anyone compare it to 09C?

Nittaku PK50 gets horrendous review by many known high level TT youtubers in Japan. 


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 08/31/2023 at 7:08am
Originally posted by BriDav12 BriDav12 wrote:

Rakza Z lacks that muted pop of catapult I get from 09C. The only rubber hat comes close to 09C for me is boosted  H3 (not a hybrid, obviously).

Been really wanting to try PK50. Can anyone compare it to 09C?

The closest comparison is Xiom Omega 7 China ying. It is hard to looks for the feel of the d09c since its equivalent hardness is like 57 or 58 degrees ESN equivalent.


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 08/31/2023 at 9:11am
Has anyone tried the gewo codexx series? The super select 55 sounds like a good forehand rubber. 

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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 08/31/2023 at 9:28am
Depends how you play really.

Bluegrip is something I haven't used loads so I can't really comment on it. I know a couple of the players who play Donic so I'll ask them for you.







Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 09/08/2023 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Joola Golden Tango.
I am thinking to try one in the future. What puzzles me is how Joola golden tango can compete with the new hybrid rubbers since it was introduced to the market six or seven years ago.

Depends on how you play, but if you wouldn't ask the same question about Dignics 09c, why would you ask it about Golden Tango?  Golden Tango isn't the fastest, but it is very reliable and durable and very spinny.
How does Golden Tango play on the backhand? Will it be too hard? I use D09c on the backhand of my JM zlc and it feels good there.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/08/2023 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Joola Golden Tango.
I am thinking to try one in the future. What puzzles me is how Joola golden tango can compete with the new hybrid rubbers since it was introduced to the market six or seven years ago.

Depends on how you play, but if you wouldn't ask the same question about Dignics 09c, why would you ask it about Golden Tango?  Golden Tango isn't the fastest, but it is very reliable and durable and very spinny.
How does Golden Tango play on the backhand? Will it be too hard? I use D09c on the backhand of my JM zlc and it feels good there.

I use it on both sides.  If you can play with D09c, there is no reason you can't play with Golden Tango, all in all Golden Tango is an easier rubber to play with to me, it just doesn't have the same top end speed.  It is stickier than D09c out the box for sure, and this is what might cause problems.  But if you don't use the protector sheets aggressively, as the tack wears off, it becomes a decently fast and spinny rubber - I would probably just keep it clean and not use the protector sheets for the backhand side.  

It just isn't as dynamically bouncy as 09c but I also think its slow spin is easier to activate in my opinion.  It's a $35-$40 rubber, you can give it a try and see whether it fits or not.  The people I know who use it on the forehand don't miss 09c and don't find the extra expense worth it.  I know one other guy who uses it on the backhand and he plays like how I do - we like to spin with power, and the rubber allows us to get good quality and control our output better than faster stuff without backing off the table.  You aren't going to easily out hit players who back up and hit with speed, but you will be able to stay consistent for sure and add all out power when you need it.


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 09/09/2023 at 10:19am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

[QUOTE=kindof99][QUOTE=NextLevel]Joola Golden Tango.
 

I use it on both sides.  If you can play with D09c, there is no reason you can't play with Golden Tango, all in all Golden Tango is an easier rubber to play with to me, it just doesn't have the same top end speed.  It is stickier than D09c out the box for sure, and this is what might cause problems.  But if you don't use the protector sheets aggressively, as the tack wears off, it becomes a decently fast and spinny rubber - I would probably just keep it clean and not use the protector sheets for the backhand side.  

It just isn't as dynamically bouncy as 09c but I also think its slow spin is easier to activate in my opinion.  It's a $35-$40 rubber, you can give it a try and see whether it fits or not.  The people I know who use it on the forehand don't miss 09c and don't find the extra expense worth it.  I know one other guy who uses it on the backhand and he plays like how I do - we like to spin with power, and the rubber allows us to get good quality and control our output better than faster stuff without backing off the table.  You aren't going to easily out hit players who back up and hit with speed, but you will be able to stay consistent for sure and add all out power when you need it.

How about Golden Tango PS on the backhand? It is a bit softer and has a 2mm version. 


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/09/2023 at 10:35am
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

[QUOTE=kindof99][QUOTE=NextLevel]Joola Golden Tango.
 

I use it on both sides.  If you can play with D09c, there is no reason you can't play with Golden Tango, all in all Golden Tango is an easier rubber to play with to me, it just doesn't have the same top end speed.  It is stickier than D09c out the box for sure, and this is what might cause problems.  But if you don't use the protector sheets aggressively, as the tack wears off, it becomes a decently fast and spinny rubber - I would probably just keep it clean and not use the protector sheets for the backhand side.  

It just isn't as dynamically bouncy as 09c but I also think its slow spin is easier to activate in my opinion.  It's a $35-$40 rubber, you can give it a try and see whether it fits or not.  The people I know who use it on the forehand don't miss 09c and don't find the extra expense worth it.  I know one other guy who uses it on the backhand and he plays like how I do - we like to spin with power, and the rubber allows us to get good quality and control our output better than faster stuff without backing off the table.  You aren't going to easily out hit players who back up and hit with speed, but you will be able to stay consistent for sure and add all out power when you need it.

How about Golden Tango PS on the backhand? It is a bit softer and has a 2mm version. 

My personal experience wasn't good, but such questions are definitely individual.   The PS is not as linear to me and it has more of a catapulty and boosted effect. I have always had a bias for stability in rubber performance over high speed and spin out of the box followed by degradation in a a month or two. But maybe I just prefer hard sponge all things being equal.  After all, I have played D09c both sides before. 




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